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Alaundo
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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 Posted - 14 Jun 2006 : 13:30:33
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Originally posted by Chyron
Thanks Dargoth, I will have to pull out the CS and read up on that entry.
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...Scyllua Karkhope, an Ex-Paladin of Tyr turned to Evil by the Erinyes.
Hmmmm...between Scyllua and Aribeth, Tyr seems to have a difficult time keeping his LG paladins on the proper path...
You forgot Gareth Gormaeril another former Tyrian Paladin who became a Blackguard.
Speaking of Blackguards does anyone know what the Perghost back ground is? |
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Chosen of Bane
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 14 Jun 2006 : 15:10:07
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Speaking of Blackguards does anyone know what the Perghost back ground is?
Well, Lords of Darkness has him as a Fighter/Divine Champion of Cyric, not a Blackguard, but anyway...
Well I have done a ton of Zhentarim research on the Zhentarim for the last campaign I ran where the party were members of the Zhentarim. Here are the notes I have on the Pereghost. There's not too much mentioned about his background... (from Castles Boxed Set, Villains Lorebook, and Lords of Darkness)
*I have also scanned other Zhentarim sources for any mention of him that may add some new information such as the Runis of Zhentil Keep, Cloak and Dagger, Volo's Guide to the Sword Coast, Champions of Ruin, and the FRCS.
The Pereghost…
The Pereghost has been detailed in a few sources, according to all of them Pereghost’s background (and even race) is a mystery. Many believe that he is a fallen paladin and others believe that he is some foul creature spawned on another plane or an undead creature.
When Sememmon was the leader of Darkhold the Pereghost served as the #2 man and was fiercly loyal to Sememmon and the Black Network as a whole. Since Sememmon’s departure the Pereghost has become the Co-leader of Darkhold along with Dhamir Ercals (CE male human Clr 16 of Cyric). Though they worship the same deity, the Pereghost and Dhamir Ercals despise each other and the Pereghost actively plots Ercals death.
Other Pereghost facts…
According to the Villains Lorebook, the Pereghost is the Dark Knight who commands the military forces of Darkhold. The Pereghost is “harsh and iron-handed”, which makes him unexpectedly popular with his troops. The Pereghost demands a lot of his soldiers but rewards those who excel.
According to Cloak and Dagger, though the Pereghost was very loyal to Sememmon, he hated Ashemmi and considered her a rival to his status in Darkhold (page 37).
The Pereghost wears magical chalk-white full-plate armor with black pipings along the joints, and fights with an intelligent bastard sword, named “Determination” in one hand (several sources)
The Pereghost rides heavy warhorse named Sandusk. Sandusk is equipped with full-plate armor and magical wings of flying, giving him the look of a beefed up Pegasus (see the cover a the Castles Boxed Set for a picture of the Pereghost and Sandusk). http://paizo.com/image/product/catalog/TSR/TSR1056_360.jpeg
The Pereghost attained command status over the garrison’s of Darkhold less than 3 years after presenting himself at the castles gates (Castles, page 7).
The Castles boxed set states that the Pereghost only speaks when he absolutely needs to but tends to bellow orders to the troops of Darkhold. It is also stated that his Skull-faced helm is known through out the Heartlands (page 7).
The Pereghost's second in command is Riviar Darkwind. She would lead Darkhold's military if the Pereghost was unavailable.
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Patrakis
Learned Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 15 Jun 2006 : 00:56:06
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Hello,
No prob Alaundo, i was happy to share this information with my elders here :)
Dargoth, on the cover of the book that i have, there is no dead guy. There is however, what looks to be some kind of guard that was dispatched with a fighter putting a hand over is mouth so he cant screem. Since i have not begun reading the adventure sections, i don't know if the scene is related to a situation in the book.
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msatran
Learned Scribe
USA
210 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jun 2006 : 05:59:25
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SPOILER WARNING
I did not like this book. It failed to fulfill the promise of it's cover. Where are the secrets that we were promised? This book is largely useless to anyone who runs anything other than modules.
Furthermore, if you've read The Final Gate, it makes 1/4 of the book useless because of the events regarding Hillsfar. Apparently Maalthiir is still in charge, but he can't be in charge because of Final Gate.
Come on, Guys! WHICH IS IT? |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jun 2006 : 07:11:00
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Msatran: Thanks for posting that. It seals the fact that I'll never buy this book. Ever.
Where's the Big Book of Faerunian History I want?
No feats, no PrCs, nothing but maybe a few spells and items. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Patrakis
Learned Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 15 Jun 2006 : 16:17:01
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Since the novels don't exist for me. Rarely read them, don't use hem. The problem Msaran exposed is not an issue for me, and shouldn't be to any users of FR in the same situation.
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 15 Jun 2006 : 16:41:38
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by GothicDan
Where's the Big Book of Faerunian History I want?
Probably in the same place as the "Big Book of Faerunian Deity Rituals"  .
Sigh. :( All I have to say on that, you know my feelings. :) |
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Snotlord
Senior Scribe
Norway
476 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jun 2006 : 21:18:17
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| Thanks for posting Pat. I'll order the book tonight. |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jun 2006 : 23:10:41
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Bought the book yesterday and started to read it tonight. First impressions....excellent!! 
This book is much better than i'd expected. The overview and details of each of the four locales is great and the NPC's very interesting characters. I like the structure of the book and the authors have done a great job in bringing this region to life. I haven't looked into the adventure sections in depth but on the surface they look quite interesting and useful. I'll certainly be spending a lot of time with this book and at this point, I definately recommend it.
GothicDan, Realms fans have been crying out for lore books for the Realms, rather than more rules focus and yet more and more PrC's, Feats etc. Trust me, this way is MUCH better, if you want rules, stick with D&D core books.
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Darrin Drader
Forgotten Realms Designer
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Posted - 16 Jun 2006 : 05:00:02
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Hey guys,
New to these forums, not new to the Realms. I'm one of the authors of this book, so I thought I'd pop in and give some new information. Like many of you, I too was somewhat disappointed when I got the outline for this book and Phlan wasn't mentioned anywhere. Phlan was my gateway to the Forgotten Realms, and I still have a fond spot in my heart for it.
That said, Phlan will make an appearance in the web enhancement, and I'm the one writing it. That's the good news. The bad news is that I've ran afoul of some difficult times lately due to a rough pregnancy my wife is going through, and I'm behind on this project. That said, I'm prepared to offer a tiny glimpse into what you can expect from it when it is released.
Among other things, the web enhancement will include the following items:
* A writeup on the city of Phlan
* The sorcerer's island
* A sarrukh (and hopefully an official correction on their CR).
* A plot hook that extends beyond the adventure in which this will all be framed, which could be the basis for an entire campaign.
I hope that this teaser has built up a measure of anticipation, because I intend for this to be one of the truly worthwhile web enhancements. |
Edited by - Darrin Drader on 16 Jun 2006 05:38:06 |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Jun 2006 : 05:06:36
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Originally posted by Darrin Drader
Hey guys,
New to these forums, not new to the Realms. I'm one of the authors of this book, so I thought I'd pop in and give some new information. Like many of you, I too was somewhat disappointed when I got the outline for this book and Phlan wasn't mentioned anywhere. Phlan was my gateway to the Forgotten Realms, and I still have a fond spot in my heart for it.
That said, Phlan will make an appearance in the web enhancement, and I'm the one writing it. That's the good news. The bad news is that I've ran afoul of some difficult times lately due to a rough pregnancy my wife is going through, and I'm behind on this project. That said, I'm prepared to offer a tiny glimpse into what you can expect from it when it is released.
Among other things, the web enhancement will include the following items:
* A writeup on the city of Phlan
* The sorcerer's island
* A sarrukh (and hopefully and official correction on their CR).
* A plot hook that extends beyond the adventure in which this will all be framed, which could be the basis for an entire campaign.
I hope that this teaser has built up a measure of anticipation, because I intend for this to be one of the truly worthwhile web enhancements.
That is awesome new Darrin, and thanks for chiming in. I wish you the best with your wife and her pregnancy, and thanks for the extended Realmslore. |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
1618 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2006 : 05:25:54
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Originally posted by Darrin Drader
Hey guys,
New to these forums, not new to the Realms. I'm one of the authors of this book, so I thought I'd pop in and give some new information. Like many of you, I too was somewhat disappointed when I got the outline for this book and Phlan wasn't mentioned anywhere. Phlan was my gateway to the Forgotten Realms, and I still have a fond spot in my heart for it.
That said, Phlan will make an appearance in the web enhancement, and I'm the one writing it. That's the good news. The bad news is that I've ran afoul of some difficult times lately due to a rough pregnancy my wife is going through, and I'm behind on this project. That said, I'm prepared to offer a tiny glimpse into what you can expect from it when it is released.
Among other things, the web enhancement will include the following items:
* A writeup on the city of Phlan
* The sorcerer's island
* A sarrukh (and hopefully and official correction on their CR).
* A plot hook that extends beyond the adventure in which this will all be framed, which could be the basis for an entire campaign.
I hope that this teaser has built up a measure of anticipation, because I intend for this to be one of the truly worthwhile web enhancements.
That is great news, The realms needs Phlan, it is in my opinion, an integral part of realmslore. Thank you for the up and coming lore. Hope everything is well with the wife and pregnancy, I have had to tough out 2 of them with my wife, most difficult, but my spouse would say worth it all in the end  . good luck and welcome to these boards my friend. |
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msatran
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 16 Jun 2006 : 05:40:20
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Well, Darrin, the enhancement may yet save the book for me. I look forward to it. My main problem is that you guys just don't work with each other enough. I'm really serious here. I want more cooperation between licensees on freelance projects. You guys should have been talking to Mr. Baker about Final Gate the whole way through with the stuff he was writing. There seriously needs to be a way that Wizards can modify NDAs so that writers of sourcebooks like yourself can actually know what's coming out in other projects; such that what happened with Secrets of the Moonsea doesn't happen here. I understand that the NDAs are very carefully worded, but it's hurting the Realms and hurting the industry.
In the end, what happened here was Richard Baker was signed for one project, and you were signed for another. No one told him what was going on, and no one told you. Now you're reading Final Gate, and he's reading your sourcebook, and both of you are probably saying "WHAT? How did THAT happen?"
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2006 : 05:45:44
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With all due respect to your opinions msatran, I think you may be overstating the issue here. While it makes perfect sense to point out if there is an inconsistancy between products, and even to point out that it bothers you when such things arrise, I'm not sure predicting dire consequences for the Realms brand or the RPG industry is quite warrented.
Also, I would be more interested in finding out the process behind such projects rather than assuming a sequence of events that may or may not have happened. If you don't mind, was there a date listed for when Mysteries of the Moonsea takes place or a specific timeframe that is says that it is set in? |
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Wil_Upchurch
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
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Posted - 16 Jun 2006 : 05:45:56
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Originally posted by Lord Rad
if you want rules, stick with D&D core books.
And if you want novels, buy novels, not game books. |
Wil Upchurch
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Wil_Upchurch
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
45 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2006 : 05:48:29
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
If you don't mind, was there a date listed for when Mysteries of the Moonsea takes place or a specific timeframe that is says that it is set in?
Yes, the most recent date in the timeline. |
Wil Upchurch
15th-Level Freelancer
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2006 : 05:50:47
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| Thanks Wil . . . I'll likely be picking this one up as soon as I can find it, though it took me forever to find Final Gate, and Border's doesn't seem to be on the ball when it comes to their RPG products near me either. Unfortunatly my FLGS tends to not carry many FR books unless one orders them . . . |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2006 : 05:57:50
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
If you don't mind, was there a date listed for when Mysteries of the Moonsea takes place or a specific timeframe that is says that it is set in?
Not to disagree with Wil but it's not set in the recent date in the timeline since the recent date is 1374 and page five clearly states that Mysteries is set in 1373. :) |
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Edited by - Kuje on 16 Jun 2006 06:04:14 |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2006 : 06:01:48
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Originally posted by Darrin Drader
* A writeup on the city of Phlan
* The sorcerer's island
Darrin you have single handly raised my interest in MoM!
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2006 : 06:03:59
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| Hm . . . I guess then if Mysteries of the Moonsea is set in 1373 DR, then a novel set in 1374 DR that involves the region wouldn't be contradicting that source. Thanks Kuje, in a roundabout way that was what I was trying to figure out. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Jun 2006 : 06:06:06
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Hm . . . I guess then if Mysteries of the Moonsea is set in 1373 DR, then a novel set in 1374 DR that involves the region wouldn't be contradicting that source. Thanks Kuje, in a roundabout way that was what I was trying to figure out.
Yup, yup, I agree and that was why I didn't bring up the contradiction in the lore. :) |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Jun 2006 : 06:07:08
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Originally posted by Dargoth
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Originally posted by Darrin Drader
* A writeup on the city of Phlan
* The sorcerer's island
Darrin you have single handly raised my interest in MoM!
Mine to, otherwise this book would sit in my collection until I needed more Zhent Keep lore. :) |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2006 : 06:27:10
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Originally posted by Darrin Drader
Hey guys,
New to these forums, not new to the Realms.
Welcome Darrin, and thank you for joining us here at Candlekeep. Please, make yourself comfortable .
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Among other things, the web enhancement will include the following items:
* A writeup on the city of Phlan
* The sorcerer's island
* A sarrukh (and hopefully an official correction on their CR).
* A plot hook that extends beyond the adventure in which this will all be framed, which could be the basis for an entire campaign.
I like the sound of that. Very nice. And we all appreciate the details you've managed to sure with us. Thank you.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2006 : 07:06:29
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I think my FLGS needs to have a serious chat with his distributors... He was supposed to have this book on Tuesday, but he won't be getting it until tomorrow.  
On the flipside, he did get in TRO 3058U. So even if he still doesn't have MotM tomorrow, I'll still be a happy camper. |
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 16 Jun 2006 07:06:47 |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2006 : 08:32:20
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Originally posted by Wil Upcurch
And if you want novels, buy novels, not game books.
The day Forgotten Realms novels become five hundred pages with a strong focus on social, geographical and cultural themes with history and character studies thrown in I will.
An area book should, in my opinion primarily give information about an area. Adventures are fine for adventure books, but shouldn't the books made for detailing an area do just that?
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
5695 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2006 : 08:40:14
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quote:
Originally posted by Darrin Drader
Hey guys,
New to these forums, not new to the Realms. I'm one of the authors of this book, so I thought I'd pop in and give some new information. Like many of you, I too was somewhat disappointed when I got the outline for this book and Phlan wasn't mentioned anywhere. Phlan was my gateway to the Forgotten Realms, and I still have a fond spot in my heart for it.
That said, Phlan will make an appearance in the web enhancement, and I'm the one writing it. That's the good news. The bad news is that I've ran afoul of some difficult times lately due to a rough pregnancy my wife is going through, and I'm behind on this project. That said, I'm prepared to offer a tiny glimpse into what you can expect from it when it is released.
Among other things, the web enhancement will include the following items:
* A writeup on the city of Phlan
* The sorcerer's island
* A sarrukh (and hopefully an official correction on their CR).
* A plot hook that extends beyond the adventure in which this will all be framed, which could be the basis for an entire campaign.
I hope that this teaser has built up a measure of anticipation, because I intend for this to be one of the truly worthwhile web enhancements.
Welcome to Candlekeep, Darrin Drader
Glad ye decided to join us  This is great news, i'll certainly look forward to this enhancement.
I have just managed to locate my copy of the tome this week and so far, am very impressed |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2006 : 09:36:30
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
On the flipside, he did get in TRO 3058U.
Confound it!
Have I told you today how much I dislike Davions? Or Coyotes for that matter?
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2006 : 11:19:04
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
On the flipside, he did get in TRO 3058U.
Confound it!
Have I told you today how much I dislike Davions? Or Coyotes for that matter?
I knew that bit would get a reaction from you.  |
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Mysteries of Moonsea?!?
