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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
1378 Posts |
 Posted - 16 Nov 2005 : 02:49:51
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I hope not - then they should have told us it's just an adventure collection. I just want some updated information on the region - I don't mind a few adventure hooks, though.
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seankreynolds
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
91 Posts |
Posted - 17 Nov 2005 : 16:57:24
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BARDOBARBAROS
Senior Scribe
Greece
581 Posts |
Posted - 20 Nov 2005 : 23:30:04
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I anticipate to see this sourcebook..i saw that it will contain 160 pages. i also believe more pages would be better ... |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 21 Nov 2005 : 08:24:15
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| Just thought of something-is it perhaps possible that this supplement will share a format with the forthcoming Eberron supplement, Secrets of Xen'Drik? Both are focused on a region, and hint at the secrets or mysteries of that region... |
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msatran
Learned Scribe
USA
210 Posts |
Posted - 23 Nov 2005 : 23:43:26
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Well, I, for one, will be pleased if Phlan goes the way of the dodo. It was never particularly good, the characters never particularly interesting, and it could easily be replaced by a wisecracking, talking animal.
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BobROE
Learned Scribe
Canada
106 Posts |
Posted - 26 Nov 2005 : 06:21:16
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Mysteries of the Moonsea The first in-depth look at this classic Forgotten REalms region in many years.
Mysteries of the Moonsea offers in in-depth look at one of the most important regions of the Forgotten Realms. The Moonsea region is full of wealth and peril. It is home to the nefarious Zhentil Keep, the merchant city of Melvaunt, and the mysterious Ironfang Keep. Mysteries of the Moonsea includes a history of the region, detailed information on the major towns and adveture locations, the important figures and groups that operate in and around the Moonsea, new spells and monsters specific to the area, and tips for Dungeon Masters on running a campaign set in the region.
by Sean K Reynolds, Thomas M. Reid, Darrin Drader, Wil Upchurch; 160 pages, $29.95
Details from the Wizard catalog, as posted on EnWorld. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 26 Nov 2005 : 06:37:43
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Originally posted by BobROE
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Mysteries of the Moonsea The first in-depth look at this classic Forgotten REalms region in many years.
Mysteries of the Moonsea offers in in-depth look at one of the most important regions of the Forgotten Realms. The Moonsea region is full of wealth and peril. It is home to the nefarious Zhentil Keep, the merchant city of Melvaunt, and the mysterious Ironfang Keep. Mysteries of the Moonsea includes a history of the region, detailed information on the major towns and adveture locations, the important figures and groups that operate in and around the Moonsea, new spells and monsters specific to the area, and tips for Dungeon Masters on running a campaign set in the region.
by Sean K Reynolds, Thomas M. Reid, Darrin Drader, Wil Upchurch; 160 pages, $29.95
Details from the Wizard catalog, as posted on EnWorld.
So whats the odd bit that Sean and Thomas keep hinting at?
That description sounds alot like City of Splendors (In format) |
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Thomas M. Reid
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
334 Posts |
Posted - 26 Nov 2005 : 22:46:49
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Originally posted by Dargoth
That description sounds alot like City of Splendors (In format)
It's also pretty inacurate. That was probably written quite a while back, before the in-house design folks got permission to try something a bit different. Again, I'm going to plead the 5th for a while on explaining exactly what I mean here, but this isn't your father's FR sourcebook.
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
1378 Posts |
Posted - 26 Nov 2005 : 23:09:05
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I just hope its not too far out of the ordinary that it actually becomes a chore to read, or not worth the price (for the common person, not for collectors or Realms junkies.  )
C-Fb |
Still rockin' the Fey'ri style. |
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seankreynolds
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
91 Posts |
Posted - 26 Nov 2005 : 23:13:00
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 26 Nov 2005 : 23:58:02
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Just out of Interest where the Knights of the North overflow from Mysteries of Moonseas?
Also do you know if MoM will contain Substitute levels? |
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1796 Posts |
Posted - 27 Nov 2005 : 01:41:06
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I definitely hope to hear more about the Knights of the North... I recently introduced them in my campaign, as I am running my players through "Sons of Gruumsh" (SoG) right now. I thought this was a perfect opportunity to introduce them to the organization. Just throw in a few Zhents here and there, and voila! SoG suddenly becomes the perfect introductor to the organization! :)
I am curious: are the Knights of the North a new org presented in CoV or are they from way back and I've missed them? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 27 Nov 2005 : 01:56:01
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Originally posted by msatran
Well, I, for one, will be pleased if Phlan goes the way of the dodo. It was never particularly good, the characters never particularly interesting, and it could easily be replaced by a wisecracking, talking animal.
Much to my surprise, I agree with you on this one.  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 27 Nov 2005 : 02:03:06
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by msatran
Well, I, for one, will be pleased if Phlan goes the way of the dodo. It was never particularly good, the characters never particularly interesting, and it could easily be replaced by a wisecracking, talking animal.
Much to my surprise, I agree with you on this one.
A brief update would be nice, for me. Not anything too in-depth, but just enough for us to know what has occured since the last Phlan details had been published.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 27 Nov 2005 : 02:51:58
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| Well, as I've said before, the two Pools of ... novels I read ruined Phlan for me. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 27 Nov 2005 : 03:33:47
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As I said back in the "How up to date . . . " thread, the second Pools novel I read I cannot remember a single word of. Not one of my favorite series.
Dispite the fact that I am trying to stay close to Canon in my Realms, I have seriously thought of annihilating Phlan as part of the Year of Rogue Dragons, just to watch it burn . . . er, I mean, just to show the PCs the danger of their situation. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 27 Nov 2005 : 03:58:53
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Well, as I've said before, the two Pools of ... novels I read ruined Phlan for me.
They were a bad experience for many Realms devotees  . They are the only FR books that I have never re-read after the first time I finished them.
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 27 Nov 2005 : 04:44:31
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Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
I am curious: are the Knights of the North a new org presented in CoV or are they from way back and I've missed them?
The Knights of the North have been around since the Ol' Grey Boxed Set and received some attention in the Ruins of Zhentil Keep boxed set and the Moonsea accessory (I think).
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 27 Nov 2005 : 05:05:21
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| My brain may not be working, but wasn't it still mentioned as being contested in the Last Mythal books, or was it under Zhent control at that time. With everything else going on I don't remember. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 27 Nov 2005 : 05:59:37
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Well, as I've said before, the two Pools of ... novels I read ruined Phlan for me.
They were a bad experience for many Realms devotees . They are the only FR books that I have never re-read after the first time I finished them.
Has to disagree with you two again. :) That series is on par, for me, just as much as the early novels. |
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Thomas M. Reid
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
334 Posts |
Posted - 30 Nov 2005 : 22:26:50
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Just out of Interest where the Knights of the North overflow from Mysteries of Moonseas?
No, the KotN are a prominent org in their own right. As George mentioned, they have been written up a few times already (as far back as the 1E Gray Box), but I went right to Ed and scooped a bit more for CoV.
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Also do you know if MoM will contain Substitute levels?
Nope. No subst. levels this time around.
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BlackAce
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
358 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2006 : 02:57:33
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My wish list for Mysteries of Moonsea
DRAGONS! :)
I want more info on FR dragons.
Uberlate reply to this and probably a redundant mention but I believe
a "Dragons of Faerun" is on it's way later this year. |
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Ahwe Yahzhe
Acolyte
Iraq
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Posted - 11 Feb 2006 : 03:53:14
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So I'm looking forward to this MoM, especially after seeing the kick-ass cover art. I'm starting my party through the Sons of Gruumsh, which really is well-thought out and well-written. After the first read-through, I anticipate this being relatively painless to run. Can't imagine why Wizards wouldn't make more adventures of this quality level for time-constrained DMs like me...
So, what I am seriously hoping to see in the Moonsea book is some sort of a method to move a party from Sons of Gruumsh into more Moonsea adventures without a ton of prep. Is there anything like an Adventure Path-type campaign in here, or at least some scenarios that are written out? I know it's not going to be the usual sourcebook, but... Is there any good news for me in this book, or should I start thinking up a post-Sons of Gruumsh campaign storyline? Or is there something I should do to start nudging the party towards a MoM storyline? For instance, should I be writing up some sort of bridge for my party from 6th ECL to "XXX" level? Any insights that aren't a matter of national security/NDA would be greatly appreciated...
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seankreynolds
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
91 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2006 : 17:12:17
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| Well, MotM is set up to let you start at 1st level in one part of the Moonsea and eventually transition through other parts of the Moonsea and end up doing high-level adventures on the Moonsea. We provide many hooks connecting the various parts, as well as red herrings and unrelated tangents that you should have an easy time lifting some of those and inserting them into an ongoing campaign to help make the transition into a Moonsea campaign. |
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Snotlord
Senior Scribe
Norway
476 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2006 : 18:47:50
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| Sounds very interesting. A "show, don't tell" approach to regional sourcebooks would make it easy to set up a campaign there. I like it. |
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Ahwe Yahzhe
Acolyte
Iraq
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Posted - 15 Feb 2006 : 05:14:55
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That sounds great - I'm looking forward to being able to move the party (assuming they survive) from Sons of Gruumsh and Melvaunt into a MoM plot hook around 6th level... It should be interesting when this gang has to start calling in favors from the feuding houses!
Thanks!
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 15 Feb 2006 : 05:17:32
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| I love it when a thread has reached five pages before we even have so much as a preview posted on WOTC's site. Definately shows that there must be some interest in the project! |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 15 Feb 2006 : 06:42:00
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I love it when a thread has reached five pages before we even have so much as a preview posted on WOTC's site. Definately shows that there must be some interest in the project!
Interest in the project itself... or just interest on what'll be detailed about Zhentil Keep I wonder?
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 15 Feb 2006 : 16:54:19
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| I don't know, I'm interested in Zhentil Keep, but Mulmaster has always held a certain facination as well. And ever since I read about them in Polyhedron years ago Thentia and Melvaunt have been like adopted cities, since I felt like they got ignored whenever someon thought of the Moonsea. |
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