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Smyther
Learned Scribe
Canada
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 Posted - 15 Oct 2005 : 23:54:19
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| Do you think that the Tortured Lands (north of the Ride) would be included in such a source book? |
So sayeth the Smyther, the Dark Bard of Amn. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
1695 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2005 : 02:54:44
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Originally posted by Thomas M. Reid
Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Zhentarim do not get that sort of detailed treatment in this product. I did the work on the Zhentil Keep portion of MotM, and I had to split my page count among numerous things. Thus, much of what appeared in previous 3E stuff about the Black Network (like in Lords of Darkness) still stands, and I reference people to that a few times. Mysteries of the Moonsea is a different sort of product. It was a lot of fun to work on, but it's not a standard regional sourcebook that you're used to seeing from Wizards. There's less crunch and more adventure material.
Thomas
Maybe the organization chart can be part of a Web Enhancement? |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2005 : 04:00:17
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Originally posted by Thomas M. Reid
Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Zhentarim do not get that sort of detailed treatment in this product. I did the work on the Zhentil Keep portion of MotM, and I had to split my page count among numerous things. Thus, much of what appeared in previous 3E stuff about the Black Network (like in Lords of Darkness) still stands, and I reference people to that a few times. Mysteries of the Moonsea is a different sort of product. It was a lot of fun to work on, but it's not a standard regional sourcebook that you're used to seeing from Wizards. There's less crunch and more adventure material.
Thomas
Cmon!
How can you do a book on the Moonsea without giving the Zhents a detailed write up! Hell they practically own half the Moonsea!
Please tell me some one at least gave the Church of Bane a good write up? |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2005 : 04:11:06
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Originally posted by warlockco
Maybe the organization chart can be part of a Web Enhancement?
Funny that you should ask that
A while ago I asked Ed about a revised organzation chart for Darkhold he got back to us today and said one of those nasty NDAs prevented him from commenting and that it was due to a project a certain Candlekeep scribe was working on........
Id put my money on it being Steven Schends Blackstaff
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Emperor Sigismund
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2005 : 05:49:28
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Originally posted by Thomas M. Reid
It was a lot of fun to work on, but it's not a standard regional sourcebook that you're used to seeing from Wizards. There's less crunch and more adventure material.
Thomas
That's hardly a bad thing! |
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Thomas M. Reid
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
334 Posts |
Posted - 20 Oct 2005 : 03:46:12
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Originally posted by Arivia
So would this be more similar to how Silver Marches was done, then? Or still different?
No, it's still a bit different. I hesitate to say too much more about the format yet.
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Originally posted by warlocko
Maybe the organization chart can be part of a Web Enhancement?
Always a possibility, but the subject of a web enhancement has not come up.
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Originally posted by Dargoth
How can you do a book on the Moonsea without giving the Zhents a detailed write up! Hell they practically own half the Moonsea! Please tell me some one at least gave the Church of Bane a good write up?
As I said before, part of the reason they don't get a detailed write-up is because they got a detailed write-up in Lords of Darkness. The outline of the product focused on things other than organizations. That's as much as I can comfortably tell you right now.
Thomas |
"A knight is not truly virtuous, only truly resolved to be so."
www.thomasmreid.com |
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Verghityax
Learned Scribe
131 Posts |
Posted - 20 Oct 2005 : 15:36:50
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Dear Mr. Reid,
Could You possibly reveal what cities are going to be covered in this sourcebook (and which of them are going to get an up-to-date map)? |
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
628 Posts |
Posted - 20 Oct 2005 : 15:41:21
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I like to see an update to Phlan myself; especially if it involves deep-sixing the "red Wizardess' lives in this certain tower...never mind the said tower is already occupied by one of the heroes of Phlan plus her husband. And it would be neat to see if they tie-in the Sarrukh to Sorcerer's Isle (Mad Mage modifying lizardmen...think about it); also since a large majority of the populace is female wonder how that is affecting things. ie: town militia is composed mostly of women. And since Bane is back, does he still have plans for the city?
I wonder if it takes place after Farthest Reach novel... |
I hope Candlekeep continues to be the friendly forum of fellow Realms-lovers that it has always been, as we all go through this together. If you don’t want to move to the “new” Realms, that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with either you or the “old” Realms. Goodness knows Candlekeep, and the hearts of its scribes, are both big enough to accommodate both. If we want them to be.
(Strikes dramatic pose, raises sword to gleam in the sunset, and hopes breeches won’t fall down.)
Enough for now. The Realms lives! I have spoken! Ale and light wines half price, served by a smiling Storm Silverhand fetchingly clad in thigh-high boots and naught else! Ahem . .
So saith Ed. <snip>
love to all,
THO
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Thomas M. Reid
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
334 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2005 : 00:29:48
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Originally posted by Verghityax
Could You possibly reveal what cities are going to be covered in this sourcebook (and which of them are going to get an up-to-date map)?
Zhentil Keep
Melvaunt
Mulmaster
Hillsfar
Several other places also get some attention.
Thomas |
"A knight is not truly virtuous, only truly resolved to be so."
www.thomasmreid.com |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2005 : 02:26:33
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Doh!
No focus on Phlan either?
Man....... Maybe someone could do a Phlan write up of it in a WE or......... a Dragon magazine article..
*Rushes off to the Ask Ed Greenwood thread* |
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Emperor Sigismund
"Its good to be the King!"
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
628 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2005 : 11:33:05
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Doh!
No focus on Phlan either?
Man....... Maybe someone could do a Phlan write up of it in a WE or......... a Dragon magazine article..
*Rushes off to the Ask Ed Greenwood thread*
Maybe it is one of the cities that might get some attention...more than a paragraph hopefully...in the end we could always do a support Phlan thread and maybe they will do a web enhancement if enough people are interested in it....hmmmm... |
I hope Candlekeep continues to be the friendly forum of fellow Realms-lovers that it has always been, as we all go through this together. If you don’t want to move to the “new” Realms, that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with either you or the “old” Realms. Goodness knows Candlekeep, and the hearts of its scribes, are both big enough to accommodate both. If we want them to be.
(Strikes dramatic pose, raises sword to gleam in the sunset, and hopes breeches won’t fall down.)
Enough for now. The Realms lives! I have spoken! Ale and light wines half price, served by a smiling Storm Silverhand fetchingly clad in thigh-high boots and naught else! Ahem . .
So saith Ed. <snip>
love to all,
THO
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Thysl
Seeker
USA
64 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2005 : 19:08:54
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Originally posted by Thomas M. Reid
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Originally posted by Verghityax
Could You possibly reveal what cities are going to be covered in this sourcebook (and which of them are going to get an up-to-date map)?
Zhentil Keep
Melvaunt
Mulmaster
Hillsfar
Several other places also get some attention.
Thomas
Spectacular!!! Some of my favorite spots!
As for the 'Support Phlan' thread count me in, poor, overlooked little hovel... |
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Brian R. James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer
USA
1098 Posts |
Posted - 22 Oct 2005 : 01:12:50
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Please put more emphasis on the great city of Phlan!
Pool of Radiance is what first drew me and many other 'old timers' to the Forgotten Realms. Give this old city some luvin =D |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 22 Oct 2005 : 07:53:33
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Originally posted by Brian R. James
Please put more emphasis on the great city of Phlan!
Pool of Radiance is what first drew me and many other 'old timers' to the Forgotten Realms. Give this old city some luvin =D
I put in a request in Eds thread for him to cover Phlan in one of his FR Cities articles from Dragon |
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Emperor Sigismund
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Wil_Upchurch
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
45 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2005 : 06:45:48
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Phlan's dead, guys, or hadn't you heard?  I thought about touching on Phlan a bit, but decided against it at the last minute. *waits for the chorus of boos* |
Wil Upchurch
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2005 : 07:09:56
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Originally posted by Wil_Upchurch
Phlan's dead, guys, or hadn't you heard? I thought about touching on Phlan a bit, but decided against it at the last minute. *waits for the chorus of boos*
BAH! Bah! |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2005 : 10:02:47
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Originally posted by Wil_Upchurch
Phlan's dead, guys, or hadn't you heard? I thought about touching on Phlan a bit, but decided against it at the last minute. *waits for the chorus of boos*
Weve got another volunteer for the rack!!! |
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Emperor Sigismund
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
628 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2005 : 18:24:53
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Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by Wil_Upchurch
Phlan's dead, guys, or hadn't you heard? I thought about touching on Phlan a bit, but decided against it at the last minute. *waits for the chorus of boos*
BAH! Bah!
Now I understand why he is 'free'lance. |
I hope Candlekeep continues to be the friendly forum of fellow Realms-lovers that it has always been, as we all go through this together. If you don’t want to move to the “new” Realms, that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with either you or the “old” Realms. Goodness knows Candlekeep, and the hearts of its scribes, are both big enough to accommodate both. If we want them to be.
(Strikes dramatic pose, raises sword to gleam in the sunset, and hopes breeches won’t fall down.)
Enough for now. The Realms lives! I have spoken! Ale and light wines half price, served by a smiling Storm Silverhand fetchingly clad in thigh-high boots and naught else! Ahem . .
So saith Ed. <snip>
love to all,
THO
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
628 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2005 : 18:30:02
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| Maybe we should start a Phlan thread, give brief descriptions how we were introduced to it, share some memories, some thoughts on how it used in current campaigns, and why it needs an update..etc….hmmm…... |
I hope Candlekeep continues to be the friendly forum of fellow Realms-lovers that it has always been, as we all go through this together. If you don’t want to move to the “new” Realms, that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with either you or the “old” Realms. Goodness knows Candlekeep, and the hearts of its scribes, are both big enough to accommodate both. If we want them to be.
(Strikes dramatic pose, raises sword to gleam in the sunset, and hopes breeches won’t fall down.)
Enough for now. The Realms lives! I have spoken! Ale and light wines half price, served by a smiling Storm Silverhand fetchingly clad in thigh-high boots and naught else! Ahem . .
So saith Ed. <snip>
love to all,
THO
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Baalster
Acolyte
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Posted - 30 Oct 2005 : 23:55:35
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Would Citadel of the Raven qualify for a mystery of the Moonsea ? I'd like to know more about it, Mount Ombaddor, White Peaks, Myth Ondath and Forharn (city with 10.000 gnomes, 500 dwarves and two dragons)
But since it's a tad too far west, *shakes  * the Magic 8-ball says: Two hopes: Bob and No...
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The North is indeed as they say in the Vilhon Reach - a land of "hard, brutal men in leather and furs who swing overhasty swords." |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 14 Nov 2005 : 23:54:55
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Wil, Sean or Thomas
Will Mysteries of the Moonseas contain a CoS/CoV style write up for the Zhentarim and the church of Bane? Specficly will there be a stated "Favoured in guild benefit" for the 2 groups |
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seankreynolds
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
91 Posts |
Posted - 15 Nov 2005 : 00:26:59
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| Thomas wrote that section, but I think off-hand the answer is "no" -- this isn't really that kind of book. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 15 Nov 2005 : 01:39:24
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Originally posted by seankreynolds
Thomas wrote that section, but I think off-hand the answer is "no" -- this isn't really that kind of book.
So its not a Regional source book like City of Splendors???  |
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seankreynolds
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
91 Posts |
Posted - 15 Nov 2005 : 01:43:39
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| It's different. I ceally can't say much at this time, but yes, it's not a regional sourcebook like COS. |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
1378 Posts |
Posted - 15 Nov 2005 : 01:54:26
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Well, no matter what it is - I look forward to the new information posted in it.
Will it have an updated mention of the powers in the Moonsea area?
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 15 Nov 2005 : 01:58:38
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| Hmmm Im really begining to wish that Wizards would just pick a format for the "Regional sources books" and stick with it |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 15 Nov 2005 : 04:04:48
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That's the difference, Dargoth. Mysteries of the Moonsea isn't a regional sourcebook as you've come to expect from WotC. It's something slightly different as I understand it - it'll be interesting to see how it turns out. And no, I haven't seen even a single word from the product, so I'm just as much in the dark as all the rest of us.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 15 Nov 2005 : 05:24:01
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Originally posted by George Krashos
That's the difference, Dargoth. Mysteries of the Moonsea isn't a regional sourcebook as you've come to expect from WotC. It's something slightly different as I understand it - it'll be interesting to see how it turns out. And no, I haven't seen even a single word from the product, so I'm just as much in the dark as all the rest of us.
-- George Krashos
I'm thinking that perhaps the tome's title hints at this, just a little... With more focus on the "mysteries" of the region (its dynamics and its interactions with the rest of the Realms for example), rather than just solely concentrating on specific details about the various locales around the Moonsea itself.
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 15 Nov 2005 : 14:41:14
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I hope it isn't too out of the box that the book becomes all but useless. And did anyone have a problem with the other regional sourcebooks? I loved how CoS and Shining South turned out (except no foldout maps).
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 16 Nov 2005 : 02:20:14
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Originally posted by George Krashos
That's the difference, Dargoth. Mysteries of the Moonsea isn't a regional sourcebook as you've come to expect from WotC. It's something slightly different as I understand it - it'll be interesting to see how it turns out. And no, I haven't seen even a single word from the product, so I'm just as much in the dark as all the rest of us.
-- George Krashos
The way Thomas and Sean are playing down the regional source book idea, Im begining to wonder if Mysteries of the Moonsea isnt really a Regional source book at all, infact Im begining to think it may be some sort of module based book..... (perhaps a series of adventures set in the Moonsea region)
maybe it will tie in with Sons of Gruumsh some how |
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Emperor Sigismund
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