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Dargoth
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Posted - 23 Sep 2005 :  01:07:27  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Now if we can just get him to confirm whether its a Regional or General FR source book..........

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Originally posted by Kuje

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Rich has basically confirmed this is a product for 2006. :)



Has he offered up any further info on it?



Not at this time. He just said, yes it's a sourcebook for 2006.



Well, that's a bit of info right there: it's a sourcebook, not a novel or module.



Well he didn't specifically say it was a sourcebook. He just said, "Yes, pretty much." Meaning yes it's for 2006. :)

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Posted - 30 Sep 2005 :  21:31:25  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mysteries of the Moonsea is listed in Amazon as a 160 page book with the following authors: Thomas Reid, Sean K Reynolds, Darrin Drader and Will Upchurch.

Here´s the link.

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P.S.: someone can send me a private message, or an e-mail, teaching me how I can put that pretty and organized hyperlinks in my posts, to don´t be necessary anymore I copy an extense and "ugly" link like that above?
Thanks in advance

Edit: Fixed the ugly URL.

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Chosen, in case the email didn't come thru correctly, you can edit or quote your above post and see what I did. That was how I learned that trick.

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Dargoth
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Posted - 30 Sep 2005 :  23:31:34  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Excellent!

Let the poking of Thomas and Sean commence!

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Snotlord
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Posted - 01 Oct 2005 :  08:03:47  Show Profile  Visit Snotlord's Homepage Send Snotlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am so glad to see Sean return to FR. The 3e Lords of Darkness and the FRCS are among my favorite FR books.
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Posted - 01 Oct 2005 :  08:19:57  Show Profile  Visit Thysl's Homepage Send Thysl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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I am so glad to see Sean return to FR. The 3e Lords of Darkness and the FRCS are among my favorite FR books.

Agreed!!

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Originally posted by Snotlord

I am so glad to see Sean return to FR. The 3e Lords of Darkness and the FRCS are among my favorite FR books.



As long as he doesn't mess things up again.
SKR is good, but his track record with the Realms, leaves alot to be desired.

I have several of his non-FR products, just seems since 3E everytime he gets involved with the Realms, something "whacked" happens.

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Originally posted by warlockco

quote:
Originally posted by Snotlord

I am so glad to see Sean return to FR. The 3e Lords of Darkness and the FRCS are among my favorite FR books.



As long as he doesn't mess things up again.
SKR is good, but his track record with the Realms, leaves alot to be desired.

I have several of his non-FR products, just seems since 3E everytime he gets involved with the Realms, something "whacked" happens.

Indeed.

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Dargoth
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Posted - 02 Oct 2005 :  00:37:27  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My wish list for Mysteries of the Moonsea

1) Info on Banes Return

2) A Champions of Ruin style write up for Zhentarim and Church of Bane (In the long format not the short one)

3) A detailed description of Modern day Phlan. The Old SSI game Pool of Radiance was my intro to the Realms and Im keen to see what theyve done to the city

Also I wonder if Mysteries of the Moonsea will cover any of the neigbouring regions like The Ride (Which Im pretty sure has never been detailed) and Vaasa



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Posted - 02 Oct 2005 :  06:33:20  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

My wish list for Mysteries of the Moonsea

1) Info on Banes Return

2) A Champions of Ruin style write up for Zhentarim and Church of Bane (In the long format not the short one)

3) A detailed description of Modern day Phlan. The Old SSI game Pool of Radiance was my intro to the Realms and Im keen to see what theyve done to the city

Also I wonder if Mysteries of the Moonsea will cover any of the neigbouring regions like The Ride (Which Im pretty sure has never been detailed) and Vaasa






Based on the cover art we've seen, I think we can expect to see some info on the Zhentarim and the Church of Bane. Maybe we'll get some new feats and prestige classes too! (can you sense my sarcasm?) Although I do like the regional feats; they have done a good job of encouraging regional roleplaying in my group.

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quote:
Originally posted by Xysma

Maybe we'll get some new feats and prestige classes too! (can you sense my sarcasm?)


New feats and Prestige Classes? Nah, they'd never do that!

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Yeah, I think the PrC well has run dry by now. (sarcasm).


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Posted - 03 Oct 2005 :  05:04:43  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Yeah, I think the PrC well has run dry by now. (sarcasm).





Specialty Priests for each of the gods would be nice though.
But that would be for a different book though.

There is always room for PrCs as long as they are revalent, and not just carbon copies of something else.
If they are going to carbon copy something, they should do like Shining South did and have a side bar that says, use X PrC from X Book, and make the following changes.
Yes, it does make you have to buy other books for the PrCs (if you want them), and at the same time it saves word count/pages for other stuff.

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Yeah, I think the PrC well has run dry by now. (sarcasm).





Specialty Priests for each of the gods would be nice though.
But that would be for a different book though.

There is always room for PrCs as long as they are revalent, and not just carbon copies of something else.
If they are going to carbon copy something, they should do like Shining South did and have a side bar that says, use X PrC from X Book, and make the following changes.
Yes, it does make you have to buy other books for the PrCs (if you want them), and at the same time it saves word count/pages for other stuff.



I can agree with you on all points -- particularly the specialty priests one. It took specialty priests to even get me to pay attention to clerics...

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Posted - 03 Oct 2005 :  05:57:19  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I love the Moonstar PrC from CoS.

I just don't like the endless, superfluous PrCs.

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Getting back on topic, I do find myself wanting to know if a single NPC from the original Moonsea supplement will be in this one: Thud the minotaur.

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I must say I'm really getting worked up by this upcoming book. The cover really want me to return to my old Cormyr campaign, as the characters has made alot of enemies from the Moonsea region, and break-and-entering into Zhentil Keep or any of Fzoul's other stronghold should be a worthy task.

As for Sean's earlier work, well, I obviously like it. The planar stuff was well executed (given the pagecount), and I refuse to believe he nuked the great wheel all by himself, even if he did the actual writing. His realmslore seems good to me, and his crunch is rock solid. I welcome his return.
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Getting back on topic, I do find myself wanting to know if a single NPC from the original Moonsea supplement will be in this one: Thud the minotaur.

For me, I'm hoping that we'll at least see a revised political map of the region... reflecting some of the changes that have occured since the printing of the last sourcebook on the Moonsea.

Or, failing that, I'd like to see an updated "Moonsea Miscellany".

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quote:
Chosen, in case the email didn't come thru correctly, you can edit or quote your above post and see what I did. That was how I learned that trick.



Wooly, thank you, mischief maker and computer helper! The mail came correctly, and finally I learn the trick!

And about the book, I stay very happy, too, when I see Sean name listed as an author. I expect the best for this book!!!


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quote:
Chosen, in case the email didn't come thru correctly, you can edit or quote your above post and see what I did. That was how I learned that trick.



Wooly, thank you, mischief maker and computer helper! The mail came correctly, and finally I learn the trick!


Not a problem. I'm here to help and have fun!

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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Getting back on topic, I do find myself wanting to know if a single NPC from the original Moonsea supplement will be in this one: Thud the minotaur.

For me, I'm hoping that we'll at least see a revised political map of the region... reflecting some of the changes that have occured since the printing of the last sourcebook on the Moonsea.

Or, failing that, I'd like to see an updated "Moonsea Miscellany".




I'm hoping for that stuff, too. But I really want to see Thud get updated along with everything else. Because of the minotaur I played, I've paid attention to other minotaurs in the Realms. There's not many of them that are named NPCs -- so I want to see this guy get brought to 3E.

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My wish list for Mysteries of Moonsea

DRAGONS! :)

I want more info on FR dragons.
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My wish list for Mysteries of Moonsea

DRAGONS! :)

I want more info on FR dragons.

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Another thing Im really hoping we'll see in Mysteries of Moonsea or in a MoM WE is a current organisation chart for the Zhentarim

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I am so looking forward to this tome - it's far time that they focus a bit on this region and bring everything up to speed. And plus, Zhentil Keep is currently active in my game and I need some new resource material.

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quote:
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Another thing Im really hoping we'll see in Mysteries of Moonsea or in a MoM WE is a current organisation chart for the Zhentarim



Do you know that Ed actually revamped that Zhentarim organisation chart in one of his "Everwinking Eye" Polyhedron articles? Stuff like the assassins known as "the Three" being replaced by another group known as "the Five Moons" (or somesuch) and some details re some of the mid-tier Zhentarim mages. I wonder if the writers/designers had a read of that article ... likely not given its obscurity.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

Another thing Im really hoping we'll see in Mysteries of Moonsea or in a MoM WE is a current organisation chart for the Zhentarim



Do you know that Ed actually revamped that Zhentarim organisation chart in one of his "Everwinking Eye" Polyhedron articles? Stuff like the assassins known as "the Three" being replaced by another group known as "the Five Moons" (or somesuch) and some details re some of the mid-tier Zhentarim mages. I wonder if the writers/designers had a read of that article ... likely not given its obscurity.

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Dont believe Ive seen that one

I recall theres a diagram in FR Adventures and the old Castles boxset which covered Darkhold. Theres also a text description in Clock and Dagger.

but what I really want is one for 1374/74 after all the Return of Bane has changed alot of stuff and going off Malichors entry in City of Splendors it sounds like the Banites are getting the upperhand in Darkhold and as such Id say things have changed enough that we need a new diagram

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Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Zhentarim do not get that sort of detailed treatment in this product. I did the work on the Zhentil Keep portion of MotM, and I had to split my page count among numerous things. Thus, much of what appeared in previous 3E stuff about the Black Network (like in Lords of Darkness) still stands, and I reference people to that a few times. Mysteries of the Moonsea is a different sort of product. It was a lot of fun to work on, but it's not a standard regional sourcebook that you're used to seeing from Wizards. There's less crunch and more adventure material.

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quote:
Originally posted by Thomas M. Reid

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Zhentarim do not get that sort of detailed treatment in this product. I did the work on the Zhentil Keep portion of MotM, and I had to split my page count among numerous things. Thus, much of what appeared in previous 3E stuff about the Black Network (like in Lords of Darkness) still stands, and I reference people to that a few times. Mysteries of the Moonsea is a different sort of product. It was a lot of fun to work on, but it's not a standard regional sourcebook that you're used to seeing from Wizards. There's less crunch and more adventure material.

Thomas



So would this be more similar to how Silver Marches was done, then? Or still different?
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