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Askanipsion
Acolyte
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 Posted - 17 Apr 2005 : 07:12:39
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I'm trying to fathom what possible in game results/changes might there be besides her change of address. And doesn't she just have to fill out one of those forms with the Post Office of Ao and then she's set as far as that matter?
Maybe she is a Greater Goddess....maybe it was to show Correllon how far she has come back to regaining her status.....Instead of following the Abyss laws, she now has TOTAL control of her plane.....she is no longer considered "fallen"....<shrugs> I guess it could be any of those. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Apr 2005 : 07:32:58
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Originally posted by Askanipsion
Maybe she is a Greater Goddess....maybe it was to show Correllon how far she has come back to regaining her status.....Instead of following the Abyss laws, she now has TOTAL control of her plane.....she is no longer considered "fallen"....<shrugs> I guess it could be any of those.
Greater Goddess? I thought deity power was tied to followers? This move increased her followers? If anything, the chaos resulted in a drop.
Show off to Corellon? No. I believe that he would have been mentioned at least once in the series if that was the case.
Yes, she now has her own plane. To the cosmology experts out there. What does that mean for the average dark elf who worships her? Any changes that someone can see or speculate on?
Maybe the whole silence was to show her followers, she could do it. Nothing more or less. |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1073 Posts |
Posted - 17 Apr 2005 : 11:00:06
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| The only REAL change that WOTSC brought about in my opinion was the complete and total destruction of Ched Nassad. I jumped around my room yelling "YES, YES" when the city collapsed. |
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Ethriel
Learned Scribe
USA
272 Posts |
Posted - 17 Apr 2005 : 14:07:31
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However, it DID set a coupla stages: Pharaun noted that the males will never see the females with the same fear and the Chaulssin are waiting in the wings...now, the Chaulssin are primarily Vhaeraunites, right? So, if they subtly work up through, converting more and more males to their way of thinking...we could have a very interesting war of subversion
And yeah, let us all hope Aliisza revived Pharaun. Usually I despise ressurections, but this is the one man in all of literature-dom who I'm praying they bring back |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Apr 2005 : 14:10:51
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Greater Goddess? I thought deity power was tied to followers? This move increased her followers? If anything, the chaos resulted in a drop.
From my read it is not just the number, though important, it also includes how devoted. That is praying once a day to deity compared to praying once a year, allowing a smaller number to hove a higher rank deity then the greater number. So far I have not seen any codified rules as to how much weight is given to numbers, degree of devotion and other factors can be a consideration, portfolio perhaps, etc.
There is no written rule (that I can find) that actually explains how a rank is gained, just some general quidelines the higher the rank the more followers. Some of those resurected deities only had a few worshippers left but they still had some high divine ranks.
It can not be just number of worshipers, or Lolth would be higher rank compared to Corellon Larethian, perhaps even higher. Of course a cenus would need to be taken to find out how many worshippers each one has.
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Show off to Corellon? No. I believe that he would have been mentioned at least once in the series if that was the case.
Yes, she now has her own plane. To the cosmology experts out there. What does that mean for the average dark elf who worships her? Any changes that someone can see or speculate on?
I do not see any change of having a plane would effect worshippers. This has not been discussed much under old location, it is osible that some time in the future the new home will be a factor that invilves followers.
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Maybe the whole silence was to show her followers, she could do it. Nothing more or less.
Would appear to be rather foolish as certainly there would be a loss of worshippers, most likely to her son and a few to her daughter (though as yu pointed out, it appears Wis and Int drop greatly leading to few surviving this choice). Of course the return might add a fear factor that might result in fear conversion to Lolth. |
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Ethriel
Learned Scribe
USA
272 Posts |
Posted - 17 Apr 2005 : 14:47:59
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Krafus
Learned Scribe
246 Posts |
Posted - 17 Apr 2005 : 16:24:28
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To those who have read the book - do you feel it was worth the price of a hardcover?
And I didn't think that whoever was chosen to be Yor'thae would actually be subsumed by Lolth. I thought the Yor'thae would be kind of the equivalent of a Chosen of Mystra, a mortal given powers by the divinity in question. Instead it seems that Danifae is practically gone - yet another character lost.
Y'know, I wonder if Danifae knew just what would happen - Lolth-worshipping drow are, ultimately, selfish, and having one's sentiency consumed and thus destroyed, even if by Lolth, doesn't strike me as a gain. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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5517 Posts |
Posted - 17 Apr 2005 : 16:58:01
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Originally posted by Ethriel
However, it DID set a coupla stages: Pharaun noted that the males will never see the females with the same fear
That was Pharaun's speculation only. Nothing more or less.
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and the Chaulssin are waiting in the wings...now, the Chaulssin are primarily Vhaeraunites, right? So, if they subtly work up through, converting more and more males to their way of thinking...we could have a very interesting war of subversion
I'll be very surprised if that takes place. But, yes it is possible.
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And yeah, let us all hope Aliisza revived Pharaun. Usually I despise ressurections, but this is the one man in all of literature-dom who I'm praying they bring back
Egads no. I hope not. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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5517 Posts |
Posted - 17 Apr 2005 : 17:08:18
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Originally posted by Ethriel
By the by, how's Selvetarm doing?
Absolutely no mention of him. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 17 Apr 2005 : 17:12:34
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Originally posted by Krafus
To those who have read the book - do you feel it was worth the price of a hardcover?
That depends on how you looked upon the series. If you enjoyed the characters and the interaction between them, then yes, Resurrection was worth a hardcover price.
If you are equally or more excited about the series' outcome than the characters, then I'd wait til the paperback version comes out.
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And I didn't think that whoever was chosen to be Yor'thae would actually be subsumed by Lolth. I thought the Yor'thae would be kind of the equivalent of a Chosen of Mystra, a mortal given powers by the divinity in question. Instead it seems that Danifae is practically gone - yet another character lost.
I never thought she would be like the Chosen of Mystra. I did not believe the novel department would repeat such a plot device. Thus, the only thing left was what happened. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2005 : 06:44:49
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
WOTC has posted Interview: War's End.
Thanks for the link Sirius  . I enjoyed reading about Mr Kemp's insight into the finale for Resurrection, and the very fact that he found it "easy" to write.
Also, the details about the sequel for the Erevis Cale trilogy were of particular interest.
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2005 : 06:51:52
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Originally posted by The Sage
Thanks for the link Sirius . I enjoyed reading about Mr Kemp's insight into the finale for Resurrection, and the very fact that he found it "easy" to write.
You're welcome. And yes, the interview was insightful about some key elements within the novel that I addressed previously. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2005 : 06:58:08
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I hadn't realised  .
I'm intentionally avoiding reading anything about Resurrection here at Candlekeep until I've read the book myself. In fact, it was a BIG decision for me to even read through that interview. And having said that, I'm sorely tempted to now read through your review... but I think I'll just leave it there for now, and finish posting in this thread before I spoil the novel completely...  .
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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5517 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2005 : 07:02:24
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Originally posted by The Sage
I'm intentionally avoiding reading anything about Resurrection here at Candlekeep until I've read the book myself.
You're sounding like Alaundo now. 
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In fact, it was a BIG decision for me to even read through that interview.
The interview seemed spoiler lite to me. But, just in case it was more for some scribes, that's why I put the link within this thread rather than Paul Kemp's Q&A.
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And having said that, I'm sorely tempted to now read through your review... but I think I'll just leave it there for now, and finish posting in this thread before I spoil the novel completely... .
 Understood. So, I shouldn't PM you with a list of who dies? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2005 : 14:26:22
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by The SageAnd having said that, I'm sorely tempted to now read through your review... but I think I'll just leave it there for now, and finish posting in this thread before I spoil the novel completely... .
Understood. So, I shouldn't PM you with a list of who dies?
Not unless you'd like me to send the Furry Space Hamster over your way...  . He's literally minutes of FUN!  .
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1073 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2005 : 15:19:02
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fulcrum
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 20 Apr 2005 : 19:28:22
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I finished this last night...and before I begin, as I recall Alizza just took the ring, she left the finger there.
To paraphrase Spock, "It that all, is there nothing more?".
When the last page was read, I put the book down and walked away from it as I would a bowl of Jello and onions. This isn't the fault of Kemp, I knew that, the ending was predetermined and he had to fill in the gaps.
As I read the book, things seemed to be moving to an anti-climax. Everything neatly wrapped itself up as all the appropriate RESET buttons were pressed.
Gromph and Dyrr:
You know that Pit in the domain of the Ultraloth, the one that is truly bottomless and what falls in is lost forever? Yeah, that is where you 'store' your phylactery. It still be wise to house it in a Golem, but such a location virtually guarantees that no one will be able to reach it after it has been falling for a few centuries.
But for some reason Dyrr hid his phylactery in the one place that he shouldn't have. I would have tossed it in the abovementioned pit or hid it in Gromph's office...somewhere...anywhere besides the obvious place.
Did I have any doubt Gromph would destroy it, no...and not because I have any faith in Gromph.
Hallistra and Danifae:
I have no doubt that Hallistra would be hard-pressed to outsmart your average houseplant. Ellistrae wasn't weak, Hallistra was a moron. Knowing what she knew, why did she attack a numerically superior group of drow with a band of untested priestess head-on? What was she hoping to accomplish, besides a repeat of Ryld's battle? She failed to kill Danifae not once, but twice, and on both occasions was nearly killed herself.
What was Ellistrae thinking?
Pharaun:
Of all the people that should have died, he wasn't it. He was the reason they survived to get to the Demonweb pits. Had he turned his back on the group, they would not have survived. His death was pointless, Quenthal used him and disposed of him like a tool...and the amazing thing was that he didn't see it coming. I did.
At the end, I saw the character shields come up on all the critical characters. But that wasn't too big a deal, after Hallistra had mentally devolved into an idiot and Pharaun decided to stay with the group who were sure to kill him, I lost interest in the fates of the characters. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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5517 Posts |
Posted - 20 Apr 2005 : 20:34:36
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Originally posted by fulcrum
I finished this last night...and before I begin, as I recall Alizza just took the ring, she left the finger there.
Actualy, she put the finger and ring into her pocket. Check out the top of page 341
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To paraphrase Spock, "It that all, is there nothing more?".
Is that regarding Pharaun's finger? the book? the series?
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As I read the book, things seemed to be moving to an anti-climax. Everything neatly wrapped itself up as all the appropriate RESET buttons were pressed.
Yes, that is a feeling I got with the last two novels, but especially this one.
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Did I have any doubt Gromph would destroy it, no...and not because I have any faith in Gromph.
I did like seeing the intrigue inside House Dyrr and some of Gromph's plotting. But, yes, there was no doubt as to the result of Gromph's search.
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I have no doubt that Hallistra would be hard-pressed to outsmart your average houseplant.
I'd really appreciate it if you would not disparage house plants like that again in the future.
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Ellistrae wasn't weak, Hallistra was a moron.
I disagree. Halisstra wasn't a moron. She was simply written like one and made into one by the last two authors in this series.
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What was Ellistrae thinking?
I felt that when it came to Eilistraee and Vhaeraun that they were constantly portrayed, at least in this series, as the Keystone Cops of the drow pantheon.
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and the amazing thing was that he didn't see it coming. I did.
I can understand that. For someone who was so careful, Pharaun did somewhat walk into his fate at the end.
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But that wasn't too big a deal, after Hallistra had mentally devolved into an idiot and Pharaun decided to stay with the group who were sure to kill him, I lost interest in the fates of the characters.
I'm sorry if this ruined your reading experience. At least you have the rest of the series, or the first four books for this scribe. |
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Tanyn Midrain
Acolyte
Sweden
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Posted - 21 Apr 2005 : 02:06:49
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Whew, just finished this novel, and I can't help but feel a certain emptiness. All the long wait and excitement that built up over the series, just poff. No more waiting for the next book in line.
That said, I really enjoyed the book, I thought it gathered momentun near the end, unlike other scribes.
I must shed a tear over Pharaun though. He was so well-written and funny to read about throughout the series. 
Mayhap it was a bit predictable that Danifae would be the Yor'thae, there were many signs of it, but then again it could just be me seeing what I want to see.
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fulcrum
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 21 Apr 2005 : 14:49:30
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Well Sirius, it was bugging me so I checked that page early this morning and she did indeed keep a piece of Pharaun. In fact she was specifically looking for 'flesh'...so it seems he might be ressurected. Mea Culpa, I suppose when I originally read that area I just didn't care enough to pay close attention.
"Is that all, is there nothing more?" Refers to the end of the series, the last book. I was expecting catastrophic changes, factures and upheavals in drow society, the fall of old heroes and the rise of new ones, and a paradygm shift in the drow that would resonate for centuries.
Instead, there were no real changes, drow society continues as before only with a slight hiccup, old heroes survived and the new heroes died. At the end of the day, any drow who were asleep or away from Menzo during the events could come back a few weeks or months later and not even realize what had happened.
As for Hallistra, you might be right. She was written reasonably well until the last two novels. I was blown away that she didn't care enough for Ryld to try and save him, then the idiocy with Danifae. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Apr 2005 : 15:20:42
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Originally posted by fulcrum
Well Sirius, it was bugging me so I checked that page early this morning and she did indeed keep a piece of Pharaun. In fact she was specifically looking for 'flesh'...so it seems he might be ressurected. Mea Culpa, I suppose when I originally read that area I just didn't care enough to pay close attention.
I understand. And I'm sorry that your reading experience was so bad that you missed that part.
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"Is that all, is there nothing more?" Refers to the end of the series, the last book. I was expecting catastrophic changes, factures and upheavals in drow society, the fall of old heroes and the rise of new ones, and a paradygm shift in the drow that would resonate for centuries.
Instead, there were no real changes, drow society continues as before only with a slight hiccup, old heroes survived and the new heroes died. At the end of the day, any drow who were asleep or away from Menzo during the events could come back a few weeks or months later and not even realize what had happened.
No disrespect, but I never considered such wide changes possible when I saw R.A. Salvatore was involved. I just could never envision him being involved in anything that made any changes in the manner you described to drow society or the pantheon.
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As for Hallistra, you might be right. She was written reasonably well until the last two novels. I was blown away that she didn't care enough for Ryld to try and save him, then the idiocy with Danifae.
I don't mind changes. But the actions/thoughts of Halisstra were so inconsistent with how she was portrayed in the previous four novels, that it just became painful to read. |
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VEDSICA
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 21 Apr 2005 : 16:15:04
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So Pharuan dies!!!!!Well I'll be a bearded gnome.Of all the characters in the series that I liked.I liked him the most.That stinks .I haven't read the book yet,but I like spoilers.From what I am reading here.It seems that since the series concluded.Nothing major has changed with drow society.Lloth is a greater goddess now.That's one.Ched Nasad being destroyed is another,but is that major???Menzo is the major player here.So I cross that one off the list.Hallistra becoming what she has become.Is that major???I don't know.Should I have not gotten my hopes up?Should I have been like SB(Torm help me),and seen RAS name,and realized that there wouldn't have been a changing of the guard so to speak?IMO Pharuan was the most likeable character of the series.He carried this group.He was intellegent,witty,sarcastic,powerful,and evil.He seemed to always take things to the edge.I like that in a character.It's just a pity that he had to get thrown away.....
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PaulSKemp
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 21 Apr 2005 : 16:30:03
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Ved,
Sorry to intrude on the thread. Please consider reading the actual book before making any judgments. And for a point of view different from that of Sirius and Fulcrum (and one shared by many, to judge from my emails), have a look at the last posts in the thread here:
http://lavendereyes.rivkashome.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&file=viewthread&tid=2939
Exiting the thread again.... |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Apr 2005 : 16:42:24
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Originally posted by VEDSICA
Nothing major has changed with drow society.Lloth is a greater goddess now.That's one.
This might not that big, deities rarely get directly involved directly with the affairs of mortals. However if there is added profolo or Domians under her control it could have some impact. We though need to wait to see her new stats.
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Ched Nasad being destroyed is another,but is that major???
Only 30,000 Drow killed so that tends to be minor, also a Lolthian city was wiped out. One less power base for Lolth.
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Hallistra becoming what she has become.Is that major???I don't know.
Sounds like she just turned into a monster and more or less out of play. Perhaps at some time in future somebody will figure out how to rescue her. I certainly do not see Eilistraee followers seeking to rescue a fallen Presstress and not sure if any other would even care.
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Apr 2005 : 17:18:57
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Originally posted by VEDSICA
Should I have not gotten my hopes up?Should I have been like SB(Torm help me),and seen RAS name,and realized that there wouldn't have been a changing of the guard so to speak?
Yes, Torm help you. One thing I'd like to make clear, my comments are not meant to be disparaging towards R.A. Salvatore. Rather, they are just my thoughts/opinions based on my own readings and impressions. Given my experience as a FR fan, I just did not see R.A. Salvatore's War of the Spider Queen being something that would greatly alter drow society or the pantheon. At times I think I let some hope creep in, but the name over the series' title always was in the shadows reminding me to be realistic.
Now, what if I had been wrong and there were massive changes to some part of drow society or the pantheon? Wanna bet there would be more than a few scribes unhappy with such changes?
You can't please everyone which is something I'm sure Mr. Salvatore and Mr. Kemp realize.
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IMO Pharuan was the most likeable character of the series.He carried this group.He was intellegent,witty,sarcastic,powerful,and evil.He seemed to always take things to the edge.I like that in a character.It's just a pity that he had to get thrown away.....
I knew this death was going to cause the most passionate reaction from fans. I need to go through the six novels this weekend sometime and write up a little tribute to Pharaun for you and other readers that enjoyed him so much. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Apr 2005 : 17:31:02
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Originally posted by PaulSKemp
Sorry to intrude on the thread. Please consider reading the actual book before making any judgments.
Mr. Kemp's thread on R.A. Salvatore's message board also has a positive review of the book if I recall correctly. If someone wishes a link, let me know.
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And for a point of view different from that of Sirius and Fulcrum (and one shared by many, to judge from my emails)
No disrespect Mr. Kemp, but why on earth would someone unhappy with the book email you? I can't fathom why I would write something like..
Dear Paul,
Hey, how's it going? I just picked up Resurrection and must say I'm really disappointed. I like to go through some key problem areas I found and tell you what I think you could have done better...
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Now, yes I know there are fans out there who would do that. Why am I reminded of a tale from Mrs. Cunningham about a certain fan Mr. Salvatore encountered at a book signing? However, I just don't feel comfortable emailing an author to offer a negative reaction to a tome.
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And yes, I do read reviews, pro and amateur, even though I probably shouldn't.
I'm sure you'll end up reading this so let me make sure I'm clear on a few other key points.
1. My disappointment in this tome is in no way going to affect my purchase of future FR novels with your name on them. In fact, did I see your name on a book for the Midnight gaming world? If so, I'm considering reading that tome when it comes out. That would mark you as only the second FR author that has caused me to cross over.
2. Did this series have an affect on me purchasing another hardcover later this year by another author? Yes.
3. Has this series affected me in the future buying novels that are part of a series like this one? Yes. I'll be much more cautious than I was with this series.
But, again, these are just the ramblings from one fan. I'm sure this tome will hit the NY times best selling list. And let me offer in advance, a congrats to you, when it does. |
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PaulSKemp
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 21 Apr 2005 : 17:46:15
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
No disrespect Mr. Kemp, but why on earth would someone unhappy with the book email you?
I can't explain the motives of a writer of a negative email. I can only say that they happen. And I presume people send them for the same reason they post negative reviews on message boards. And there's no particular bother to me in that. Part of the job.
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Apr 2005 : 17:55:44
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Originally posted by PaulSKemp
I can't explain the motives of a writer of a negative email. I can only say that they happen. And I presume people send them for the same reason they post negative reviews on message boards.
I guess I'm just strange then for seeing a difference in posting something on a community message board versus emailing an author.
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And there's no particular bother to me in that. Part of the job.
Good to know and something I'll remember in the future. |
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Zotiko
Acolyte
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Posted - 21 Apr 2005 : 18:37:34
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Hello everyone, this is my first time posting here, so please be gentle.
Though I haven't yet read Resurrection, based on what I've read so far I believe I've come up with an original interpretation that will make the whole WotSQ series even darker.
What if Eilistraee falls to Chaotic Neutral, or even to Chaotic Evil, at the end of the series?
Now this hypothesis is based on both the behavior of the goddess herself and her various priestesses throughout the series, not including Halisstra.
First of all, the behavior of the Eilistraeean priestesses:
1) They make use of the "convert or die" method. In both attempts to convert Halisstra, the knowledge that they will kill her hangs over her head if she doesn't.
2) They kill innocent people. They murdered Yarno's parents while in a religious frenzy. Admittedly, they were in their werewolf forms at the time, but afterwards their corpses were horribly mutilated and no Atonements were required by Eilistraee to make up for the fact that they had killed (or perhaps sacrificed would be a better description for those hunts) non-evil beings in her name.
3) They are horribly sexist. This is based primarily on their treatment of Ryld. No priestess makes any attempt to convert him; they either totally ignore him or attack him for his ignorance. They also don't permit males in their religious ceremonies. For a church preaching equality of genders, they don't seem to actually believe it.
Now, for Eilistraee herself:
1) She sacrifices not just the life but the immortal soul of one of her priestesses. This of course refers to Seyll. It could be argued that the annihilation was voluntary, but the fact that she was willing to do this to one of her priestesses for a slim chance at killing one of her enemies is morally questionable.
2) She Damns Ryld. From previous books, mostly from Salvatore's Exile we learn that non-evil drow, regardless of whom they might have prayed to in life, go to Arvandor (remember Zaknafein anyone?). By that precedence, Ryld shouldn't have been sent to the Demonweb Pits. However, the only reason Halisstra gets there in the first place is because she has been unconsciously drawn there by the presence of Ryld's spirit. That leads me to the conclusion that Eilistraee deliberately, and unjustifiedly, Damned Ryld for the express purpose of having a shot at killing Lolth.
So, in conclusion, Eilistraee and her priestesses appears to have abandoned her principles of redemption and forgiveness for the chance at killing an enemy and increasing her power, all the while staying xenophobic and sexist and killing the weak and innocent whenever it is convenient.
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Resurrection (WotSQ #6) - SPOILERS
