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Beezy
Learned Scribe
USA
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 Posted - 04 Oct 2005 : 05:13:51
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| Yea thats the one, thanks for helping me out. I was drawing a blank and almost dug the novel out to remember |
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Chosen of Lathander
Acolyte
Turkey
21 Posts |
Posted - 07 Mar 2006 : 17:40:33
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I think Arilyn Moonblade is the best.....
Elaine Cunningham describes her so good.And she really fights well |
Lathander is beginnig of all things,everything will reborn with dawn. |
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Vainelus
Seeker
USA
59 Posts |
Posted - 26 Mar 2006 : 21:02:47
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High Lady Alustriel
Alustriel has guided the formation of the Silver Marches. She is even tempered, fair, and just. Alustriel's efforts have led to Silverymoon being compared to old Myth Drannor at it's peak. She also knows the limits of her fledging nation and while she is willing to take risks especially to her person, she never risks the safety of her people. I have always found the 2nd edition Seven Sisters description of Alustriel and how she spends her days to be a testament to her character. She basically devouts her every waking moment to serving the nation that she rules and the greater good throughout the North. |
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Elfinblade
Senior Scribe
Norway
377 Posts |
Posted - 29 Mar 2006 : 13:35:14
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oh, this is a tough one indeed. i will have a go anyway :P
1: Gwydion the Quick. (the story about his struggle in Prince of Lies, by Lowder was for me just epic. when he finally got his honor regained by Torm, i got the shivers)
2: Seiveril Miritar. (For the astounding sacrifices he made on behalf of the elven race)
3: Azoun (for the obvious reasons)
4: Araevin Teshurr and his fiancè(her name eludes me)
and probably numerous others that deserves mentioning :P |
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dorn
Acolyte
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Posted - 09 Apr 2006 : 04:17:54
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Uthgar.
I mean, he inspired and created a whole nation of people from nothing. Not many others did that, even among the other 'new' gods.
He was a warrior that could destroy the greatest of opposition, not a mage/chosen with the powers that goes along as so many modern hero's are.
He was such a hero and had such a following that he ascended to godhood. Think Alustriel will do that?
But that might be said to be in the past and not relevent to this conversation...who knows :) |
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Shirl Ravenlock
Acolyte
USA
5 Posts |
Posted - 10 Apr 2006 : 02:37:19
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| Mine would be Drizzt, based on the books that I have read so far. |
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Wandering_mage
Senior Scribe
688 Posts |
Posted - 13 May 2006 : 03:01:41
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| Eliminster would be the easy answer. If you have read all of his books he looks so complex but always is aimed at doing good. However, I think some honorable mentions might be due. I think Karsus and the last Coronal of Myth Drannor were good fellas in their own way. Tragic though. Also we have to have a heroine!!! Cadderly's woman Danerys or some such name. She was cool and very heroic! |
Illum
The Wandering Mage |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 13 May 2006 : 03:12:15
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Originally posted by Wandering_mage
Cadderly's woman Danerys or some such name. She was cool and very heroic!
Danica. :) |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Wandering_mage
Senior Scribe
688 Posts |
Posted - 14 May 2006 : 00:42:11
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I feel so dumb.  At least I got the first two letters of the name right.  |
Illum
The Wandering Mage |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 14 May 2006 : 03:26:27
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Originally posted by Wandering_mage
I feel so dumb. At least I got the first two letters of the name right.
Well the first three letters actually. :) So you were half right. :) |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2006 : 09:15:03
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I'll throw out some Elven heroes:
Amlaruil
Zaor
Durothil
Eltagrim
The Srinshee
Lamruil
Illyara |
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"That attitude should be stomped on, whenever and wherever it's encountered, because it makes people holding such views bad citizens, not just bad roleplayers (considering D&D was structured as a 'forced cooperation' game, and although successive editions are pointing it more and more towards a me-first, min-max game, the drift away from 'we all need each other to succeed' will at some point make it 'no longer' D&D)." - ED GREENWOOD |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
1720 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 13:45:36
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After reading the question the first one I thought of was the poor guy from the Avatar series, who was tricked into death by Cyric, then tormented for some time in the Wall of the Dead and finally got rewarded for all his suffering from his true patron Deity. After reading through the answers posted here I thibk I remember his ame now (thanks to Elfenblade), unless I am mixing up names now completely):
Gwydion the Quick |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 16:44:59
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Originally posted by Ergdusch
After reading the question the first one I thought of was the poor guy from the Avatar series, who was tricked into death by Cyric, then tormented for some time in the Wall of the Dead and finally got rewarded for all his suffering from his true patron Deity. After reading through the answers posted here I thibk I remember his ame now (thanks to Elfenblade), unless I am mixing up names now completely):
Gwydion the Quick
Hmm.... that might be Adon actually. :) |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 17:00:23
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In general, I think some of the greatest heroes are the people that we haven't heard as much about. All of those characters in Ed's books that are just doing their jobs before chaos comes knocking on their door, and they jump into the fray against some evil they have no idea about, that is likely to cut them down, because its the right thing to do.
Characters like the Stormweather guards in the Erevis Cale books that stood their ground to loyaly defend their employer when the Sojourner's agents were seeking the bauble that would tell them when and where the conjuction with the Plane of Shadows would occur (and BTW, scences like that make the Big Heroes like Cale looke even better, because he was concerned with all of the loss of life of his fellow former Stormweather employees).
Characters like the rangers and woodsmen in the Year of Rogue Dragons trilogy fighting under the direction of the Sossal druids to fend off Iryclea's hordes as they invaded the land, and actually kept fighting until the supernatural effect of dragonfear would drive them off. Heck, they even surged forward to hack the white dracolich to pieces once it lost its battle with he heroes.
And the footsoldiers in the Crusade in the Last Mythal books, who, while they may not have been low level elven warriors, weren't epic level clerics, fighters, and High Mages, and were holding their own against demons, devils, daemons, drow, and mercenaries.
I guess the short form would be that I think some of the greatest heroes are the people that stand their ground and do what they need to do so the the Big Hero survives long enought to get all of the glory and do the Big Things that need to be done. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2006 : 01:58:11
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I guess the short form would be that I think some of the greatest heroes are the people that stand their ground and do what they need to do so the the Big Hero survives long enought to get all of the glory and do the Big Things that need to be done.
Great point. |
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FridayThe13th
Learned Scribe
USA
132 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jul 2006 : 02:44:54
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1. Gareth Dragonsbane: He crushed Orcus, nuff said.
2. Torm: A Paladin who rebelled against a tyrant and became a god, what more do you need?
3. Elminster: He has been at it for over 1000 years and is still alive and kicking
4. Drizzit....uhhh...nah. Maybe after another century, but not now. |
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jmf
Acolyte
USA
18 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2006 : 20:43:12
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| i think drizzt and maybe catti-brie. |
new too forgotten realms help me |
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VonRaventheDaring
Learned Scribe
USA
197 Posts |
Posted - 13 Aug 2006 : 01:35:32
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| Well don't forget the BlackStaff as a hero, or for that fact any of the chosen or the knights for that matter, cause to hang with the chosen of mystra has to take a lot of guts! |
"Develop the latent abilities within you for that is your power alone. Psionics is the ultimate art of magic and you are its practitioner. Through lifelong dedication, strive to unite your will with your physical form to become one. Only through the unrestrained union of one’s mind and body can the magic of psionics truly be mastered. Throw off the yoke of any who would impose tyranny upon you. Likewise, do not ever force another to submit to your will. Free your mind, free yourself and you have only just begun the path to true psionic mastery. Free others, open their minds to the Invisible Art, and you will show them way to Auppenser."
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2006 : 16:24:54
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| Karsus because if he didn't do what he did, Netheril would still be alive and we wouldn't have Elminster þ{þÿ2 |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2006 : 17:09:52
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Originally posted by Alisttair
Karsus because if he didn't do what he did, Netheril would still be alive and we wouldn't have Elminster þ{þÿ2
So you'e saying he's a hero because he inadvertently destroyed his nation? 
I'm not trying to start a debate; I just find this a curious stance. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2006 : 18:24:29
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Alisttair
Karsus because if he didn't do what he did, Netheril would still be alive and we wouldn't have Elminster þ{þÿ2
So you'e saying he's a hero because he inadvertently destroyed his nation?
I'm not trying to start a debate; I just find this a curious stance.
hehe Yes I am...in a strange sarcastic way yet in a non-sarcastic way as it pertains to current realms people...........
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KARSUS WILL RETURN HAHAHAHAHAHA
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Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 20 Sep 2006 : 01:23:55
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Originally posted by Alisttair
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair
Karsus because if he didn't do what he did, Netheril would still be alive and we wouldn't have Elminster þ{þÿ2
So you'e saying he's a hero because he inadvertently destroyed his nation?
I'm not trying to start a debate; I just find this a curious stance.
hehe Yes I am...in a strange sarcastic way yet in a non-sarcastic way as it pertains to current realms people...........
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KARSUS WILL RETURN HAHAHAHAHAHA
*ahem*
Recall that Karsus was also responsible for the death of Mystryl, as well as the deaths of thousands of Netherese during the Fall of the Enclaves -- a direct result of his actions.
Regardless of any possible future benefit to the Realms, such actions in the past would hardly, in my opinion, warrant Karsus as a "hero."
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 20 Sep 2006 : 13:28:46
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair
Karsus because if he didn't do what he did, Netheril would still be alive and we wouldn't have Elminster þ{þÿ2
So you'e saying he's a hero because he inadvertently destroyed his nation?
I'm not trying to start a debate; I just find this a curious stance.
hehe Yes I am...in a strange sarcastic way yet in a non-sarcastic way as it pertains to current realms people...........
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KARSUS WILL RETURN HAHAHAHAHAHA
*ahem*
Recall that Karsus was also responsible for the death of Mystryl, as well as the deaths of thousands of Netherese during the Fall of the Enclaves -- a direct result of his actions.
Regardless of any possible future benefit to the Realms, such actions in the past would hardly, in my opinion, warrant Karsus as a "hero."
To the Netherese no...to FR fans yes :P |
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Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 20 Sep 2006 : 17:24:14
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quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair
To the Netherese no...to FR fans yes :P
It's a matter of opinion. Again, I'm not trying to start a debate, but I think of him as an arrogant madman whose pride and short-sightedness caused one of the biggest disasters to befall the Realms. |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 20 Sep 2006 : 19:01:34
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Difficult question as it would all be in the eye of the beholder so to speak, but I would have to go with Mirt. If the great wizards and Harpers need a man of the greatest guts, Mirts their man.
Sorry Alistair, but I can not see Karsus as a hero either. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 20 Sep 2006 : 20:36:57
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Originally posted by Jorkens
If the great wizards and Harpers need a man of the greatest guts, Mirts their man.
Mirt does indeed have a great gut! 
(But I'm thinking we might be using different definitions of "great". ) |
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
956 Posts |
Posted - 20 Sep 2006 : 21:15:34
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Alisttair
To the Netherese no...to FR fans yes :P
It's a matter of opinion. Again, I'm not trying to start a debate, but I think of him as an arrogant madman whose pride and short-sightedness caused one of the biggest disasters to befall the Realms.
Exactly 
along that line of logic if that if the arrogance, stupidity and madness of Karsus shaped his world's future for milennia and that makes him a hero so then logically Adolf Hitler is a hero too...as his actions has directed and shaped the course of real world civilization for almost 100 years now...probably for the next 1000 years or more...
I'd hate to sit at a table with other role players that think Hitler is a hero  
but I figure you are just goofing around with that suggestion  |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 20 Sep 2006 : 21:16:35
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| Are you trying to insinuate that gulping enormous amounts of beer and stuffing one self with good food after a long life of fighting is not heroic Wooly? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 21 Sep 2006 : 01:24:21
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Alisttair
To the Netherese no...to FR fans yes :P
It's a matter of opinion. Again, I'm not trying to start a debate, but I think of him as an arrogant madman whose pride and short-sightedness caused one of the biggest disasters to befall the Realms.
Agreed.
It's also why I said that, regardless of any potential future benefit to the Realms, anything that Karsus did in the past to assist the Realms at some point in the future is automatically negated by the fact that he caused so much death and destruction during his own period. And for nothing more than personal gain...
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Edited by - The Sage on 21 Sep 2006 01:25:11 |
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Who do you think is the greatest hero/heroine ?
