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Xysma
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 06 May 2005 : 21:41:26
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Originally posted by kuje31
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Mayhaps I'm having a brainfart here... When did he die?
In one of the other 2 books after the ToT trilogy. Cyric drove him insane and Adon turned his back on Mystra so it made him one of the False and or Faithless. I can't recall which because I hate those 2 concepts. :)
I hate that as well, didn't Cyric do the same thing to another character? The one who Kelemvor put into the Gond armor? What was his name? I have a hard time with the whole idea of "He was faithful until he was tricked at his moment of death be an evil god, and now he's considered Faithless." |
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Darth KTrava
Learned Scribe
USA
172 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2005 : 22:49:48
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Originally posted by Xysma
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Originally posted by kuje31
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Mayhaps I'm having a brainfart here... When did he die?
In one of the other 2 books after the ToT trilogy. Cyric drove him insane and Adon turned his back on Mystra so it made him one of the False and or Faithless. I can't recall which because I hate those 2 concepts. :)
I hate that as well, didn't Cyric do the same thing to another character? The one who Kelemvor put into the Gond armor? What was his name? I have a hard time with the whole idea of "He was faithful until he was tricked at his moment of death be an evil god, and now he's considered Faithless."
Gwydion
And he came back for his "second chance" only to perish while protecting Rinda when she was carrying the True Life of Cyric.
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1564 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2005 : 23:16:07
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I think most of us would likely nominate their own characters as the greatest hero/heroine, if we only dared 
If I had to pick one out of the vast collection of noble souls in the Realms, I think it would be Jarlaxle, definitely. Who can resist this dangerous, resourceful and lovable rogue? Maybe he is more of an anti-hero, but his intentions and motives are not evil, and I just loved the way he has adopted the role of "Drizzt"  |
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Arlenion
Acolyte
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Posted - 30 Jul 2005 : 04:33:55
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I think of King Azoun as being the best hero when it comes to heroic deeds. He sacrificed his life to save Cormyr calmly and without fear. He sympathized with his opponent( trying not to spoil) and didn't struggle or cower; impressive when you consider the hatred that his opponent had for his kingdom and the power of his foe.
Now that I think about it, the entire Death of the Dragon book was full of heroic deeds and sacrifices. |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 09 Aug 2005 : 15:45:21
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For my 2 bits -
Araevin Teshurr, Drizzt Do'urden, or Jarlaxle Baenre.
Two of these characters have shown great self-sacrifice to push a noble cause, or a moral cause. They have been willing to do things no one else would do because of racial politics or simple circumstances.
As for the third, well, he's just one of the best Anti-heroes ever created and I look forward to the release of Promise of the Witch King.
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StromLancer
Acolyte
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Posted - 10 Aug 2005 : 11:45:16
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Oh wow, this question really gives me a headache, for there are so many heroes in the realms that...well are considered as among the greatest heroes. Oh well, I might as well give a list that is done according to my preference.
Ranked according to number:
1) Cyric(Before he became insane and later a god)
2) The Old Sage
3) Drizzt.
4) Dorn Graybrook
5) Azoun IV and His Daughter, Alusair Obarskyr(for the heroics they did during the Crusade.)
6) Princess Tanalasta.(A heroine with admirable courage.)
7) Galeron Nihmedu(Maybe incompetent, still worthy of a hero title.)
8) Cadderly.
9) Gwydion(nice devotion to duty.)
10)Bruenor Battlehammer.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 10 Aug 2005 : 14:46:21
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Originally posted by StromLancer
Ranked according to number:
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2) The Old Sage
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Neato  . I got ranked SECOND  .
Granted it's my WotC username, but still... a ranking is a ranking .
Special note: Yes, I realise the above ranking didn't actually relate to me in particular... but I couldn't resist borrowing the position of our resident Mischief Maker .
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1073 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2005 : 15:29:14
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by StromLancer
Ranked according to number:
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2) The Old Sage
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Neato . I got ranked SECOND .
Granted it's my WotC username, but still... a ranking is a ranking .
Special note: Yes, I realise the above ranking didn't actually relate to me in particular... but I couldn't resist borrowing the position of our resident Mischief Maker .
The Mischief Maker is probably going to pay you back in a grandiose manner now, Sage |
If I were a ranger, I would pick NDA for my favorite enemy |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
2104 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2005 : 16:26:36
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Originally posted by StromLancer
Oh wow, this question really gives me a headache, for there are so many heroes in the realms that...well are considered as among the greatest heroes. Oh well, I might as well give a list that is done according to my preference.
Ranked according to number:
1) Cyric(Before he became insane and later a god)
You mean when he killed his foster-parents in their sleep? |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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Shadovar
Senior Scribe
785 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2005 : 13:00:43
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Well, it had been a long time since I had visited this topic...so it seems I should update on who I think is the greatest hero or heroine.
For now, I had managed to think of the top 5 greatest heroes for my own opinion.
1) Erevis Cale (despite being a shade, I admired him for his perseverance and righteousness despite being a creature of shadow.)
2) Kelemvor Lyonsbane(leading a revolt in the Realms of the Dead and daring enough to trick a god when few dare to do so.)
3) Shandril Shessair (the first respected heroine in my eyes.)
4) Matteo of Halruaa(An amazing hero with a unique array of abilities.)
5) Gwydion (admirable devotion to duty and undying loyalty, worthy of respect.)
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Rocheval
Acolyte
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Posted - 11 Aug 2005 : 14:51:10
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| An unexpecting hero, Sarhthor. Teleporting to take Fzoul's javelin meant for Shandril and then giving his life essence to her to raise a crown of fire. |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1073 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2005 : 19:34:07
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Originally posted by Rocheval
An unexpecting hero, Sarhthor. Teleporting to take Fzoul's javelin meant for Shandril and then giving his life essence to her to raise a crown of fire.
I`ve been thinking about that. Why didn`t he have an ironguard or stoneskin spell on himself? Or some other form of protection? After all, he was an archmage!(or close) |
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ode904
Learned Scribe
Finland
193 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2005 : 22:26:08
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Hard question. I haven't read of the characters you have mentioned(except Drizzt). Hmm...
I have to say I haven't read of bigger hero than Drizzt.
Azoun must be very big hero too, many have mentioned him.
Does he appear in Counselors and Kings? |
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
USA
1287 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2005 : 01:15:26
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Ivan and Pickle....
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2005 : 02:56:49
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Originally posted by Mournblade
Ivan and Pickle....
Pickle? 
Are you referring to the Bouldershoulder brothers, Ivan and Pikel?  |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2005 : 03:04:40
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Seiveril Miritar (sp?)
Not only has he risked his life to stoke up an army in defence of the elves on the continent, but he also has thrown down the gauntlet to the elves on Evermeet's council about how elves should still be concerned with the world.
Personal danger as well as risking his clout and influence as well, not to mention that he is taking some huge leaps of faith with regard to what the Seldarine expect of him. |
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Rocheval
Acolyte
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Posted - 12 Aug 2005 : 03:52:22
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Originally posted by khorne
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Originally posted by Rocheval
An unexpecting hero, Sarhthor. Teleporting to take Fzoul's javelin meant for Shandril and then giving his life essence to her to raise a crown of fire.
I`ve been thinking about that. Why didn`t he have an ironguard or stoneskin spell on himself? Or some other form of protection? After all, he was an archmage!(or close)
I don't really know. But I think I read something about at a certain experience stage of spellfire you can only drain someone who is on the brink of death and/or willingly gives up their lifeforce to create a crown of fire. Maybe Sarthor knew about these requirements and put himself in that particular situation. Also re-reading a bit of Crown of Fire he might have been looking for redeemption, having abandoned the path of evil and returning to commit his last act as a Harper. |
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 12 Aug 2005 : 05:38:37
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Mournblade
Ivan and Pickle....
Pickle?
Are you referring to the Bouldershoulder brothers, Ivan and Pikel?
AYE LAD!!!
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1073 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2005 : 12:22:27
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Originally posted by Mournblade
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Mournblade
Ivan and Pickle....
Pickle?
Are you referring to the Bouldershoulder brothers, Ivan and Pikel?
AYE LAD!!!
Those two are the funniest FR characters I have ever read about. Torm(not the god) and Rathan don`t even come close. |
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Shadovar
Senior Scribe
785 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2005 : 13:50:42
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Originally posted by ode904
Hard question. I haven't read of the characters you have mentioned(except Drizzt). Hmm...
I have to say I haven't read of bigger hero than Drizzt.
Azoun must be very big hero too, many have mentioned him.
Does he appear in Counselors and Kings?
Azoun did not appear in Counselors and Kings Trilogy, rather it focused on some Halruaan heroes including one outstanding hero called Matteo. |
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- High Prince Telemont Tanthul, Lord Shadow
In a speech given to the citizens of Shade Enclave
At the celebration of the Shinantra Battle victory when he revealed that he was THE Lord Shadow of legend. |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
2104 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2005 : 16:12:29
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Originally posted by ode904
Hard question. I haven't read of the characters you have mentioned(except Drizzt). Hmm...
I have to say I haven't read of bigger hero than Drizzt.
Azoun must be very big hero too, many have mentioned him.
Does he appear in Counselors and Kings?
Azoun appears in: The Azure Bonds by Jeff Grubb (a small "cameo" only, Crusade by James Lowder as the main character (along with his youngest daughter, Alusair), Cormyr: A Novel by Ed Greenwood and Jeff Grubb (as a supporting character in the "present day" story-arc, and as the main character of the last of the historical bits), Beyond the High Road by Troy Denning, as the main character along with his eldest daughter Tanalasta, something that also occurs in its sequel Death of the Dragon.
It is of course possible that he appears in one of the many novels and short stories I haven't yet read as well (feel free to point out which ones, fellow scribes), but as far as I know, this list is fairly complete. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2005 : 17:53:32
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Originally posted by Kajehase
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Originally posted by ode904
Hard question. I haven't read of the characters you have mentioned(except Drizzt). Hmm...
I have to say I haven't read of bigger hero than Drizzt.
Azoun must be very big hero too, many have mentioned him.
Does he appear in Counselors and Kings?
Azoun appears in: The Azure Bonds by Jeff Grubb (a small "cameo" only, Crusade by James Lowder as the main character (along with his youngest daughter, Alusair), Cormyr: A Novel by Ed Greenwood and Jeff Grubb (as a supporting character in the "present day" story-arc, and as the main character of the last of the historical bits), Beyond the High Road by Troy Denning, as the main character along with his eldest daughter Tanalasta, something that also occurs in its sequel Death of the Dragon.
It is of course possible that he appears in one of the many novels and short stories I haven't yet read as well (feel free to point out which ones, fellow scribes), but as far as I know, this list is fairly complete.
Didn't he also show up in the last book of Shandril's Saga? |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
2104 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2005 : 21:27:19
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| That one's still on my to-read list. Stupid bookstore is always out of it when I'm there. *sighs* |
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TheRedBard
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 21 Sep 2005 : 03:55:26
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| Elminster I would have to say...he has done sooooo much over the centuries. Granted he is not my favorite in FR but as for being a true hero, I think he has few contenders. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
2104 Posts |
Posted - 21 Sep 2005 : 13:41:53
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Bah, that's cheating (and with the store in another town I kinda prefer to make my visits monthly, so as to not lose to many purchases to the train-tickets ). |
There is a rumour going around that I have found god. I think is unlikely because I have enough difficulty finding my keys, and there is empirical evidence that they exist.
Terry Pratchett |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 21 Sep 2005 : 20:26:20
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| How am I supposed to choose? There are so many good choices! |
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Beezy
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 02 Oct 2005 : 19:30:15
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Shandril Shessair was a interesting heroine because she goes from being a commoner working in a tavern to wielding vast amounts of power, Book I Spellfire is one of the best books I have ever read.
I always liked Wulgar until he was captured by the yochel (bad spelling?).
It has been awhile but I also liked that beserker from Starlight and Shadows but I can't recall his name |
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warlockco
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Who do you think is the greatest hero/heroine ?
