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Originally posted by Seethyr

I’m curious what regions of the world we just literally have no idea what’s going on since the Spellplague or earlier? I further wonder if they will ever be explored again, but there’s no way to know such things. Do we have any clue for example how the Shining South is doing?

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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

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Originally posted by Seethyr

I’m curious what regions of the world we just literally have no idea what’s going on since the Spellplague or earlier? I further wonder if they will ever be explored again, but there’s no way to know such things. Do we have any clue for example how the Shining South is doing?

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Since the Spellplague? Pretty much anything outside of the Heartlands. Since before the Spellplague? We've got entire continents that are nothing more than a blobby shape on a map.

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Originally posted by cpthero2

Senior Scribe Seethyr,

Pre-Spellplague, sadly, Kara-tur had really nothing of note about it beyond the Kara-Tur boxed set, which of course is awesome, but compared to the amount of material produced for other parts of the Realms, nothing much. That isn't the only thing of course, there is the Horde boxed set, many modules, etc., but comparatively, not much.

Best regards,

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Originally posted by Seethyr

I'm hoping they do more books like Rime that hit somewhat out of the way areas. I don't even mean the giant unknown landmasses, I mean the places like Halruaa and Durpar and Var the Golden, etc. Thank you Zeromaru for the 4e suggestion, I will look into purchasing one.

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Originally posted by Zeromaru X


I can also provide you with a list of the relevant Realmslore articles in the 4e run of Dragon and Dungeon mag, although there is no info there of the places you mention (abd besides the Five Companies, there is no info on Halruaa in 4e... you know, it was destroyed by the time).

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-A bunch of 3e era DRAGON magazines had articles involving Kara-Tur. One of the final print issues, 349, went into a lot of post-1372/pre-spellplague Hordelands detail, like 20 pages or so worth.

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...the amount of material produced for other parts of the Realms...

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• Gary Gygax, David Cook, and François Marcela-Froideval (1985). Oriental Adventures. (TSR, Inc). ISBN 0-8803-8099-3.
• Mike Pondsmith, Jay Batista, Rick Swan, John Nephew, Deborah Christian (1988). Kara-Tur: The Eastern Realms. (TSR, Inc). ISBN 0-88038-608-8.
• Rick Swan (July 1990). Monstrous Compendium Kara-Tur Appendix. (TSR, Inc.). ISBN 0-88038-851-X.
• (1989). Kara-Tur Trail Map. (TSR, Inc). ISBN 0-88038-783-7.
• David "Zeb" Cook (1986). Swords of the Daimyo. (TSR, Inc). ISBN 0-88038-273-2.
• Jon Pickens and others (1986). Night of the Seven Swords. (TSR, Inc). ISBN 0-88038-327-5.
• Jeff Grubb (1987). Ochimo: The Spirit Warrior. (TSR, Inc). ISBN 0-88038-393-3.
• David "Zeb" Cook (1987). Blood of the Yakuza. (TSR, Inc). ISBN 0-88038-401-8.
• Jeff Grubb (1988). Mad Monkey vs the Dragon Claw. (TSR, Inc). ISBN 0-88038-624-X.
• Curtis Smith and Rick Swan (1990). Ronin Challenge. (TSR, Inc). ISBN 0-88038-749-1.
• Rick Swan (1989). Test of the Samurai. (TSR, Inc). ISBN 0-88038-775-0.
• Nigel Findley (1990). Ninja Wars. (TSR, Inc). ISBN 0-8803-8895-1.
• Troy Denning (August 1990). Black Courser. (TSR, Inc.). ISBN 0880388587.
• Jay Batista (May/June 1987). “The Kappa of Pachee Bridge”. In Roger E. Moore ed. Dungeon #5 (TSR, Inc.), pp. 28–32.
• Dan Salas (September/October 1987). “Samurai Steel”. In Roger E. Moore ed. Dungeon #7 (TSR, Inc.), pp. 37–47.
• Jay Batista (November/December 1987). “The Flowers of Flame”. In Roger E. Moore ed. Dungeon #8 (TSR, Inc.), pp. 46–63.
• Rick Swan (January/February 1988). “The Golden Bowl of Ashu H'San”. In Barbara G. Young ed. Dungeon #9 (TSR, Inc.), pp. 35–43.
• Matthew Maaske (March/April 1988). “The Artisan's Tomb”. In Barbara G. Young ed. Dungeon #10 (TSR, Inc.), pp. 9–11.
• Thomas M. Kane (January/February 1989). “The Dragon's Gift”. In Barbara G. Young ed. Dungeon #15 (TSR, Inc.), pp. 24–29.
• Greg Kramer (May/June 1989). “The Waiting Room of Yen-Wang-Yeh”. In Barbara G. Young ed. Dungeon #17 (TSR, Inc.), pp. 31–41.
• Marcus L. Rowland (July/August 1989). “Crocodile Tears”. In Barbara G. Young ed. Dungeon #18 (TSR, Inc.), pp. 32–41.
• Craig Barrett (January/February 1991). “Bride For A Fox”. In Barbara G. Young ed. Dungeon #27 (TSR, Inc.), pp. 40–52.
• Colin Sullivan (January/February 1992). “Mad Gyoji”. In Barbara G. Young ed. Dungeon #33 (TSR, Inc.), pp. 54–75.
• Teos Abadia (October 2011). “The Five Deadly Shadows”. In Chris Winters ed. Dungeon #195 (Wizards of the Coast), pp. 1–19. Archived from the original on 2013-05-09.
• Tim Eagon (October 2011). “Ecology of the Hengeyokai”. In Steve Winter ed. Dragon #404 (Wizards of the Coast), pp. 49–58.
• Fringes of Kara-Tur
• Samurai and Yakuza
• Secrets of the Ninja
• Claudio Pozas (October 2011). “Class Acts: Runepriest – Shan Zi of Kara-Tur”. In Steve Winter ed. Dragon #404 (Wizards of the Coast), pp. 49–58.
• Logan Bonner & Derek Guder (October 2011). “The Seven Styles”. In Steve Winter ed. Dragon #404 (Wizards of the Coast), pp. 49–58.
• Dan Anderson (October 2011). “Backdrop: Xiousing”. In Steve Winter ed. Dungeon #195 (Wizards of the Coast), pp. 58–66.

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...I mean the places like Halruaa and Durpar and Var the Golden, etc.

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Originally posted by cpthero2

Master Rupert,

It's almost as if... perhaps... there could be... an ever minute hint of sarcasm in there? ;) lol

Best regards,

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Not as much sarcasm as extreme dissatisfaction -- because both parts of my statement on Halruaa are canon. We're told it blew up and that this explosion is why Chult became an island -- which means this explosion somehow flowed up over a wall of mountains and then came back down.

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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Yup, destroyed by an explosion that somehow went over a wall of mountains and came back down to shatter the peninsula, and did this without leaving a crater -- or even destroying the buildings! -- at ground zero.

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Originally posted by Lord Karsus

-Probably because Pokemon can cause massive explosions and fireballs and tsunamis and tornadoes and earthquakes and whatever else, but after the battle ends it's like, eh whatever.

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Originally posted by cpthero2

Master Rupert,

Wow! What kind of influence did Pokemon play on that series? That is pretty interesting!

Best regards,

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I’m dying to see Turmish again.

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The nation nearly collapsed in the Spellplague, and somehow between 4e and 5e their local order of druids become one of the most powerful and widespread organizations in Faerun.

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Between the Emerald Enclave’s apparent ascendancy and the elevation of the native Turami people to one of the core human ancestries, yet we know nothing about what’s up there now.

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Originally posted by cpthero2


Well, it isn't surprising that the Emerald Enclave has become that powerful. They have an enormous amount of verified experience of mass murder over the years, with a toll of between 718k and 2.8 million murdered. I mean... that is dedication and skill right there!

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Oh gods, not this again. We have a single canon reference to a very small number of (possibly justified) deaths, and your wild assumption that a comparison means way, way more than anything that is even implied. I honestly don't even understand how you came to this conclusion, much less why you seem compelled to keep bringing it up.

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Originally posted by cpthero2

Master Rupert!

Good morning good sir! I thank you mightily for the response! :)

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Oh gods, not this again. We have a single canon reference to a very small number of (possibly justified) deaths, and your wild assumption that a comparison means way, way more than anything that is even implied. I honestly don't even understand how you came to this conclusion, much less why you seem compelled to keep bringing it up.

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I was only commenting on the fact that the Emerald Enclave is extremely good at killing people and justifying it. That death count too! WHOA! I mean, they take that killin' job seriously: Silvanus does not mess around!

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Originally posted by Seethyr

I'm hoping they do more books like Rime that hit somewhat out of the way areas. I don't even mean the giant unknown landmasses, I mean the places like Halruaa and Durpar and Var the Golden, etc. Thank you Zeromaru for the 4e suggestion, I will look into purchasing one.

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"Silvanus is also the patron of the Emerald Enclave, the band of druids that seeks to keep the entire Vilhon Reach area ecologically sound. That group's violence and ruthlessness are as legendary as the plagues that swept through the Vilhon."(Vilhon Reach, p.17)Legendary violence and ruthlessness is definitely enough. However, let's get more. Since there is more "context" to go.

Let's take a look at that context now. I want to briefly go back to the plague part. I know, you may be thinking: it was probably just a few people that died. Well, the quote above did say "...as legendary as the plagues..." As in, more than one plague.

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In the Year of the Clinging Death (75 DR), a plague tore through the Vilhon Reach, killing more than 50% of the total population in as little as 10 years. (Vilhon Reach, pg.4)

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To begin with: I am not saying that the Emerald Enclave started this plague.

However, let's hold on a darn tootin' moment here! I thought it was just said that "That group's violence and ruthlessness are as legendary as the plagues that swept through the Vilhon."? So, if I understand this correctly, their violence was so ruthless and legendary, that it was equal to half the loss of the regions humans in 10 years? Let's take a look at that population shall we? (https://www.realmshelps.net/faerun/vilhon.shtml)

In 1372, the Vilhon Reach had a population of approximately 5,705,840 (humans 95%, dwarves 2%, elves 1%, lizard-folk 1%). Let's just for arguments sakes reduce that by 75% to 1,426,420. Now, that is of course silly to do so, but let's see what 50% of that is...oh my, it appears to be 713,230. Being generous I reduced that to an absurdly low number whereas the high value would be 2,852,920. So, the Emerald Enclaves violence is so legendary and ruthless that it is stated to be on par with a death toll of between 713k to 2.8 million? Indeed. That is in fact what the citations say.

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