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Kiaransalyn
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
762 Posts |
 Posted - 16 Jul 2008 : 16:35:02
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Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
P.S. Please don't think that just because I am debating about this with you that I do not like you. I just like a good, even-headed debate about things that I feel strongly about (not that I haven't participated in more than a couple not-so-good, not-so-even-headed debates in my time, but I am human  ). Also, I hope that my stand on 3.x Edition does not overly colors your opinions about me. 
We can always walk away from conversations we don't like.  Good, even-headed debates are always welcome. I only hope that I prove to be a good conversational partner.
I also hope that I don't appear to be attacking you over 3.5. I'm not, I was just wanting to express my own feelings. My main gripe with 3.5 was that I bought the three core rulebooks and found, upon comparison to the three 3rd edition books, that not much had changed. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2008 : 17:29:08
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Originally posted by Kiaransalyn
Well I'm still the same old prickly cynical curmudgeon that I was last year.
So are a lot of other people here, myself included (sometimes).
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...I am, after all, mostly a person full of complaints but thank you for your welcome.
As was stated in another thread, being upset about the changes to the setting won't make you stand out much at all here. For that matter, neither will disliking the 4E ruleset, although I like it. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2008 : 18:29:28
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
As was stated in another thread, being upset about the changes to the setting won't make you stand out much at all here. For that matter, neither will disliking the 4E ruleset, although I like it.
It is not that I do not like the 4e ruleset, I just don't prefer it. If someone offered to run a game in it I would be more than happy to play, but I like all the options that I have in the 3.x ruleset, and have purchased too many of the books to really consider switching (I just got the DMGII used for only USD 15 yesterday!). |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2008 : 18:39:30
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Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
It is not that I do not like the 4e ruleset, I just don't prefer it. If someone offered to run a game in it I would be more than happy to play, but I like all the options that I have in the 3.x ruleset, and have purchased too many of the books to really consider switching (I just got the DMGII used for only USD 15 yesterday!).
Understood, I was just speaking in general terms. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Talwyn
Learned Scribe
Australia
222 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2008 : 01:00:44
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I think Kiaransalyn has stumbled onto something that at first I thought must have been pure coincidence but now I begin to wonder.
4 & the symbol $ for dollors are on the same key.
Many people have seen WotC's introduction of 4E as grab for $.
Could it be that simple? Could it be that they are having a joke on us by creating $E in the attempt to increase sales and make more $ ?
*insert spooky X-files music*
the truth is out there..... |
Over the centuries, mankind has tried many ways of combating the forces of evil...prayer, fasting, good works and so on.
Up until Doom, no one seemed to have thought about the double-barrel shotgun.
EAT LEADEN DEATH DEMON!
Terry Pratchett
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2008 : 02:09:30
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Originally posted by Talwyn
4 & the symbol $ for dollors are on the same key.
Yes, I noticed that. It's a happy/unhappy coincidence. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 18 Jul 2008 02:10:09 |
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Kiaransalyn
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
762 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2008 : 07:45:58
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Originally posted by Talwyn
I think Kiaransalyn has stumbled onto something that at first I thought must have been pure coincidence but now I begin to wonder.
4 & the symbol $ for dollors are on the same key.
Many people have seen WotC's introduction of 4E as grab for $.
Could it be that simple? Could it be that they are having a joke on us by creating $E in the attempt to increase sales and make more $ ?
*insert spooky X-files music*
the truth is out there.....
By Uthgar's tight pants, I've been rumbled. You've got me bang to rights, guv. Slap the old cuffs on me. I have to admit that my apparent "slip" with the old Shift key was deliberate. |
Death is Life
Love is Hate
Revenge is Forgiveness
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Jimmy: Yeah. But don't hold it against me.
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2008 : 19:40:44
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"Slap the old cuffs on me"? Kia, dear, are you into the same . . . entertainments that I am? Wink, wink?
love,
THO |
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Dewaint
Learned Scribe
Germany
148 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2008 : 23:20:08
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two things broke my heart:
1. the gap of 100 years (ok, it will be filled somehow sometime; but what about the ongoing campaigns? The storylines and characters?) A terrible loss of continuity that I cannnot accept (well ... I guess I'm to old for this kind of nasty surprises)
2. in my oppinion they (WoTC) systematically tried to simplify the Realms at any cost in a short time. So they hurried from one RSE to the next stumbling upon their own feets.
Bad, really bad. |
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Talwyn
Learned Scribe
Australia
222 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jul 2008 : 00:07:34
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Originally posted by Kiaransalyn
By Uthgar's tight pants, I've been rumbled. You've got me bang to rights, guv. Slap the old cuffs on me. I have to admit that my apparent "slip" with the old Shift key was deliberate.
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
"Slap the old cuffs on me"? Kia, dear, are you into the same . . . entertainments that I am? Wink, wink?
love,
THO
By Sunes kinky dungeon of delight, the fluffy cuffs will be slapped on post haste!  |
Over the centuries, mankind has tried many ways of combating the forces of evil...prayer, fasting, good works and so on.
Up until Doom, no one seemed to have thought about the double-barrel shotgun.
EAT LEADEN DEATH DEMON!
Terry Pratchett
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jul 2008 : 00:14:04
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Originally posted by Talwyn
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Originally posted by Kiaransalyn
By Uthgar's tight pants, I've been rumbled. You've got me bang to rights, guv. Slap the old cuffs on me. I have to admit that my apparent "slip" with the old Shift key was deliberate.
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
"Slap the old cuffs on me"? Kia, dear, are you into the same . . . entertainments that I am? Wink, wink?
love,
THO
By Sunes kinky dungeon of delight, the fluffy cuffs will be slapped on post haste!
By Ed's Flavor Saver, that is funny stuff indeed!! |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
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Kiaransalyn
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
762 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jul 2008 : 13:34:05
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
"Slap the old cuffs on me"? Kia, dear, are you into the same . . . entertainments that I am? Wink, wink?
love,
THO
Sorry for taking so long to reply but the boss had me chained to the desk. Ahem, so to speak.
As regards those sorts of entertainments, THO I was once at a party where someone young with a high opinion of themselves asked me if I was "sub or dom." I replied, "I don't recall giving you permission to speak," which ended the conversation rather nicely I though.
Oh and I mustn't forget the now obligatory "By Eldath's peace." |
Death is Life
Love is Hate
Revenge is Forgiveness
Ken: You from the States?
Jimmy: Yeah. But don't hold it against me.
Ken: I'll try not to... Just try not to say anything too loud or crass. |
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Jakk
Great Reader
Canada
2165 Posts |
Posted - 25 Sep 2008 : 03:08:19
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Originally posted by Talwyn
quote:
Originally posted by Kiaransalyn
By Uthgar's tight pants, I've been rumbled. You've got me bang to rights, guv. Slap the old cuffs on me. I have to admit that my apparent "slip" with the old Shift key was deliberate.
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
"Slap the old cuffs on me"? Kia, dear, are you into the same . . . entertainments that I am? Wink, wink?
love,
THO
By Sunes kinky dungeon of delight, the fluffy cuffs will be slapped on post haste!
I so love these boards... but alas, I must return the thread to topic. *sniff*
Hawkins, I suspect that Mr. Baker was either unwilling to have the Wizards website host the poll or told not to by the bigwigs at Wizbro who don't want to see poll results. The best way to tell Wizbro how you feel is not to buy the books. I deeply regret buying the $E core three books, particularly when I saw the absence of the gnome, barbarian, bard, and sorcerer (and yes, I pre-ordered the books... otherwise, they would not have been purchased). One of my fave 3.5 characters is a gnome gestalt bard/sorcerer, and nothing about this character exists in $E... except for the fact that gnomes are in the MM$E. Thanks, but no thanks. 
If there's anyone in the Upper Fraser Valley region of B.C., Canada who is interested, I have a set of $E core books, barely used, near-mint condition, for $10 off cover price per book. PM me for details. I'm restricting myself geographically because I don't want to pay for shipping, and if you pay the shipping, that defeats the discount. If I can't sell them, so be it... I just hope the retailers are having the same problem.  |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic. |
Edited by - Jakk on 25 Sep 2008 07:02:22 |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36912 Posts |
Posted - 25 Sep 2008 : 17:22:12
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
You should put them up on eBay and note in the auction that the buyer pays the shipping.
That's actually standard. Very few sellers offer free shipping. |
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
France
1608 Posts |
Posted - 25 Sep 2008 : 19:40:29
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Originally posted by Jakk
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If there's anyone in the Upper Fraser Valley region of B.C., Canada who is interested, I have a set of $E core books, barely used, near-mint condition, for $10 off cover price per book. PM me for details. I'm restricting myself geographically because I don't want to pay for shipping, and if you pay the shipping, that defeats the discount. If I can't sell them, so be it... I just hope the retailers are having the same problem.
and what about a consignment shop or a D&D players association near your home ?
But Ebay could really be a good idea. You'll need a bit of chance to sell it with a good price ! (my experience : my ebay.fr user ID : chien-de-tete, Feedback ratings : 407) |
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Amarel Derakanor
Seeker
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Posted - 26 Sep 2008 : 09:39:54
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I voted "I hate the changes! What the hell were they thinking?", since not only are most of the changes plainly stupid, with no logic or reasoning behind them, save the "logic" of jamming the Forgotten Realms full with 4th-edition-core-ruleset material (such as those Dragonborn).
Watching an interview with that Cristopher Perkins didn't help, at all, since he (for instance) explained their need to "nuke" various parts of the Realms.
Out of spite, I don't want to support WotC ever again after this.
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Brunswick
Acolyte
Ireland
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Posted - 27 Sep 2008 : 17:57:17
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| I'm so in agreement with this. Just watched the CP interview in which he basically says, well the rules are changing anyway so the Realms has to change as well!! grrr! |
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Jakk
Great Reader
Canada
2165 Posts |
Posted - 29 Sep 2008 : 01:20:42
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I think I'll save my sanity (and quite possibly CP's life as well) and *not* watch that video. I have no plans to support WotC any further either. My group is quite happy with 3.5 and our own Realms timeline, and bits of the Pathfinder rules look interesting if we decide we need an "upgrade".
Thanks, Ashe and Fillow, for the additional avenues of disposal. I should be able to rid myself of these malevolent tomes soon enough. |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic. |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 01 Oct 2008 : 18:02:35
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| I think I will close this poll on Oct 10th, which will be the 1 year anniversary of when I made it. The results seem to be an overwhelming dislike for the 4e Realms, but the results are also Candlekeep specific. Only time will tell how well the new version of the setting really does. I know that I have said that I intend to buy 4e novels of authors that I enjoy and respect, but I am having a hard time making myself do so, even though I love the authors' writing. I may have to just start looking for their non-Realms novels and collecting them. Though, WotC still might sell me on the 4e Realms if they start filling in the holes and explaining things that they said they would cover in "Countdown to the Realms" articles and never did. I just don't see them actually doing that, and since I do not intend to pay for DDi, then the time they have to do so is very short. |
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The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
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* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 01 Oct 2008 : 23:03:35
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Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
I think I will close this poll on Oct 10th, which will be the 1 year anniversary of when I made it.
Hard to believe, that it's been so long. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 02 Oct 2008 : 00:26:57
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Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
I think I will close this poll on Oct 10th, which will be the 1 year anniversary of when I made it. The results seem to be an overwhelming dislike for the 4e Realms, but the results are also Candlekeep specific. Only time will tell how well the new version of the setting really does.
Heh. Maybe it's just me, but I'd probably keep it open until August '09 -- to reflect the first anniversary of the 4e Realms FRCG release. It's highly likely that some opinions may change between now and then, as more of the 4e Realms is revealed through online official Realmslore. At least that way, this poll will reflect opinions from those who have actually looked over the FRCG. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 02 Oct 2008 : 14:00:27
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| Actually, Sage, I think that's a good idea. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Uzzy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
618 Posts |
Posted - 02 Oct 2008 : 15:28:45
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| I know my opinion could change. The 4th Edition Realms might just move below World of Synibarr as the worse RPG setting ever made. Possibly. |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1120 Posts |
Posted - 02 Oct 2008 : 16:30:27
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
I think I will close this poll on Oct 10th, which will be the 1 year anniversary of when I made it. The results seem to be an overwhelming dislike for the 4e Realms, but the results are also Candlekeep specific. Only time will tell how well the new version of the setting really does.
Heh. Maybe it's just me, but I'd probably keep it open until August '09 -- to reflect the first anniversary of the 4e Realms FRCG release. It's highly likely that some opinions may change between now and then, as more of the 4e Realms is revealed through online official Realmslore. At least that way, this poll will reflect opinions from those who have actually looked over the FRCG.
Good idea, Sage. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3249 Posts |
Posted - 02 Oct 2008 : 19:21:05
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| Meh. Attitudes may change on 4E and the new Realms, but I don't believe they will change overmuch. If we had 6 sourcebooks come out between the release and next August, I think that they would change a lot more easily than 6 articles or so. |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 02 Oct 2008 : 21:34:01
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| Um, I have a different poll up for people who have bought and/or read the FRCG and how satisfied they are with it. Continue your thoughts on extending it though, I am paying attention. |
Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
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* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Christopher_Rowe
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
879 Posts |
Posted - 02 Oct 2008 : 21:50:34
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I actually think Hawkins has the right idea. Going back to look at the first post, turns out that this poll is actually designed to measure reactions* about "The 'New' Realms of 4E" based solely on the last page of The Grand History of the Realms. The comments that follow make it clear that people were casting their votes on a lot more than that--rumors and innuendo that turned out to have greater or lesser degrees of accuracy, etc--and at this late date, the results will skew even more, since folks are likely to see the title of the poll and vote based on that, and take their knowledge of the published 4E material they've read (or not, as the case may be) into account. I say shut 'er down.
* yeah, yeah, for whatever definitions of "design" and "measure" are germane--insert boiler plate about surveys on message boards, target audiences, voluntary participation, etc |
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Dooly Pwent
Acolyte
USA
8 Posts |
Posted - 02 Oct 2008 : 22:21:25
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Well, though I appear to be in the opinioned minority, my stance/view on the new Realms shalt not waiver. I find these new changes to be interesting, if not a breath of fresh air. My reasons for siding in the camp of 'Accepting' are thus:
1. I do enjoy the new Edition of D&D. While it's no longer what 3.5 was, in many ways, neither is 3rd what 2nd was, yet 3.5 found acceptance over time. I admit to a bit of reservation about what new $th ed (Whoops, Shift-slip) might bring given WotC's tendancy to not balance their splat books, the newest edition has played qite well with acceptance by all I've run games for. Of course, they too may be in a player minorty, but the reasoning behind explaining my acceptance is thus: such radical changes in a system, I feel, are better explained through setting change rather than a grand 'reset' button or "that's just the way it's always been so accept it' mentality. Spell-casting being one of the biggest changes in the setting needed an explanation that worked well. And a catastrophic attack on magic itself works for me. Though I would be curious to hear how others might have explained such a change.
2. A fresh start means a chance to hear/read about new heroes. Don't get me wrong. My heart shall always have a place for many a timeless hero (Rest well good rogue Volo. We hardly knew ye) that the old edition brought to light. But looking at it, they always seemed to take the spotlight more often than the smaller heroes we hardly hear about. Such a change now gives us a chance to see new legends be born and grow as their predecesors had done.
Of course, one problem I might be having is the 100 year gap, depending on how it is handled. I'm hearing that the 100 year span shall never be described an that is the part that upsets me. What makes the Realms so unique, so enticing, is the way it lives and breaths moreso than any other gaming world I've seen. Pages of history to read through makes me feel like I've stepped into a world that is right outside my door.
but to leave such a large and important gap unfilled; to leave it's design in un-canon obscurity leads me to feel like we've just amputated a part of a richly detailed world and went, "Whoops. Oh well, it must not have been important".
Give me pages of unending history. Give me books that are fuffy in detail with song and recipie with no impact on rules and crunching. Let the sages detail that timeframe so that we can re-attach the 'Whoops' that we've now lost.
Yet, also give us more of the now. How has our world changed and become more interesting. What history can we see unfolding before us like editions of old. Give us something more than 2 mere books alone can describe.
If the Realms is your flagship, it's hard to move her with only 2 sails.
::Steps out off the self rising soapbox shoes he borrowed from the Temple of Gond:: Whoops. Forgot I had those on. My apologies. Guess those bugger all gremlins must have hit the elevate button.
Also, if, by chance, these words make no sense, my apologies. I'm trying to make sense while working at a job that does not. Tends to vex my braincells a bit. |
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Taurren
Acolyte
USA
12 Posts |
Posted - 03 Oct 2008 : 00:11:19
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From the results of this poll, about 75% of those members of Candlekeep who have responded either hate the changes or could work with them if they were better written.
Dang, that's a staggering rejection of the new realm from supposedly die-hard fans.
I've read the Campaign Guide and have to say that I am completely underwhelmed. Compared to the 3E FRCS, it was skeletal in the extreme and really didn't succeed in hooking me into the setting. Having been disappointed with the CS I wasn't going to pay even more for a Players Guide, but I am hearing some good things about it.
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Originally posted by Uzzy
I know my opinion could change. The 4th Edition Realms might just move below World of Synibarr as the worse RPG setting ever made. Possibly.
I never thought any setting could be more a "salad bar" than Synnibar, but you very well might have a point. |
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