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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 19 May 2003 : 15:05:28
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Well Met
It has been brought to my attention of a new site to appear under the same name as our beloved library. This was announced on the WotC forum and rapidly reported back by a fellow scribe to me.
I thought it best to speak out and state that Candlekeep, this Candlekeep, has no involvement with the new "Candlekeep.co.uk".
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Edited by - Alaundo on 21 May 2003 07:53:45
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 19 May 2003 : 15:52:45
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WHAT? A copy? A cheap imitation? How dare they! 
Sadon, as I recall, your favored enemies are doppelgangers, right? Sic 'em!   |
Hell hath no fury like all of Candlekeep rising in defense of one of its own.
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 19 May 2003 : 16:31:50
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| Hmmmm well the logo font and a few other bits look a bit familiar! The cheek of it! This guy could have chosen something else! Its an insult |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 19 May 2003 : 22:22:20
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| This site isn't even close from OUR candlekeep. It's not even an imitation it's a plagia from the FR books! |
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Edain Shadowstar
Senior Scribe
USA
455 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2003 : 02:14:55
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| You know I probably have the perfect spell to get ride of an imposter, allow me to search through my grimores and see if I can find some sort of banishment spell. |
Edain Shadowstar
Archwizard of Rel Astra and Waterdeep
"Mmm…pie…"
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31726 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2003 : 05:58:01
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This is distressing news indeed.
I have found few FR sites in my travels around the web, that have even a basic portion of the majesty that this Candlekeep holds.
Besides, this Candlekeep has the benefit of so many fine Sages and Scholars of FR lore, that the other Candlekeep will never be anything but a pale imitation to this site.
May our learning continue now, and forever more to be free and unfettered
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Candlekeep Forums Moderator
Candlekeep - The Library of Forgotten Realms Lore
http://www.candlekeep.com -- Candlekeep Forum Code of Conduct
Scribe for the Candlekeep Compendium -- Volume IX now available (Oct 2007)
"So Saith Ed" -- the collected Candlekeep replies of Ed Greenwood
Zhoth'ilam Folio -- The Electronic Misadventures of a Rambling Sage |
Edited by - The Sage on 20 May 2003 05:59:00 |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2003 : 08:57:41
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Originally posted by Sage of Perth
Besides, this Candlekeep
This Candlekeep is THE Candlekeep |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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eilinel
Learned Scribe
France
296 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2003 : 15:39:52
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| well, bad news, actually. I dont know what to think... its the endless problem of internet... |
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Artalis
Senior Scribe
USA
444 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2003 : 21:08:14
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I won't even dignify their site with the hit to find out how stupid it is...
Begone foul imposters! |
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Rune
Acolyte
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Jul 2003 : 19:04:53
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For the love of Ao! what are you: small children or mature roleplayers? Just because the site shares the same name you dismiss and degrade it..your just being petty. We're only fellow roleplayers who happen to be making a forgotten realms site and you condemn us for it? Well that makes you no better than the Red Wizards  |
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Elrumir
Acolyte
Netherlands
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Posted - 05 Jul 2003 : 19:16:41
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Greetings fellow Realmsians
Why is it such a problem that a new Candlekeep site opens? It seems to me that you are the single largest site of FR-related material besides wizards.com, and it is not like we're stealing anything. Besides that, this site comes across as 'Very Professional' -just like it's contributors I guess...  - while we're merely trying to vent our creativity in a hobbyist-way, just by doing what we like: exploring the Realms.
In my opinion, the last few posts come across as petty and afraid: not that we'll have your number of visitors anytime soon, nor do we want to... We're just here to do what you do: share others in our passion... I hope that you'll just let us be...
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jul 2003 : 12:01:54
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Originally posted by Elrumir
Greetings fellow Realmsians
Why is it such a problem that a new Candlekeep site opens? It seems to me that you are the single largest site of FR-related material besides wizards.com, and it is not like we're stealing anything. Besides that, this site comes across as 'Very Professional' -just like it's contributors I guess... - while we're merely trying to vent our creativity in a hobbyist-way, just by doing what we like: exploring the Realms.
In my opinion, the last few posts come across as petty and afraid: not that we'll have your number of visitors anytime soon, nor do we want to... We're just here to do what you do: share others in our passion... I hope that you'll just let us be...
Apologies if my post sounded so harsh, I guess it was just a bit of a shock. Obviously the owners of Candlekeep.com have no rights to the Candlekeep name but I just thought it would have been courteous for candlekeep.co.uk to maybe choose another name, as after all, sites are usually refered to without their TLD on the URL (sorry about the acronyms  ) |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 06 Jul 2003 : 13:24:38
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That is a good point Rad.
While I was a little angered by this news, that doesn't justify the harsh judgement that I had made earlier. I apologise for my previous comments. Still, I believe the root of the problem lay at the original choice of the name for the community in question, since like Rad suggested "sites are usually refered to without their TLD on the URL".
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Candlekeep Forums Moderator
Candlekeep - The Library of Forgotten Realms Lore
http://www.candlekeep.com -- Candlekeep Forum Code of Conduct
Scribe for the Candlekeep Compendium -- Volume IX now available (Oct 2007)
"So Saith Ed" -- the collected Candlekeep replies of Ed Greenwood
Zhoth'ilam Folio -- The Electronic Misadventures of a Rambling Sage |
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Elrumir
Acolyte
Netherlands
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Posted - 06 Jul 2003 : 22:02:59
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Thanks, apologies accepted!
Anyway... This site, the Candlekeep as you have put it, is the more established one. That is true, no arguing about it. Besides that, it is defenitely the larger one. Nevertheless, if people cannot find something here, they could perhaps use some of our information to get to whatever it is they want. We're not trying to compete with you, we're trying to supplement each other.
Point I'm trying to make: We do not plan to go on and try to get you out of business, we're trying to give additional information, most of which is personal campaign stuff anyway.
And for the site's name... Well... Candlekeep IS the best-known library in the Realms, so we thought it the one most fitting. (This might seem like blasphemizing to you, but I didn't even know this one existed before someone pointed me to this thread  ).
Anyway, I hope we can all explore the Realms in peace and not start a war of knowledge... |
Gods... Now theyknow how to get their ways... |
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Jul 2003 : 23:04:01
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Originally posted by Elrumir
Thanks, apologies accepted!
Anyway... This site, the Candlekeep as you have put it, is the more established one. That is true, no arguing about it. Besides that, it is defenitely the larger one. Nevertheless, if people cannot find something here, they could perhaps use some of our information to get to whatever it is they want. We're not trying to compete with you, we're trying to supplement each other.
Point I'm trying to make: We do not plan to go on and try to get you out of business, we're trying to give additional information, most of which is personal campaign stuff anyway.
And for the site's name... Well... Candlekeep IS the best-known library in the Realms, so we thought it the one most fitting. (This might seem like blasphemizing to you, but I didn't even know this one existed before someone pointed me to this thread ).
Anyway, I hope we can all explore the Realms in peace and not start a war of knowledge...
Well Met Elrumir
Welcome to Candlekeep (a home away from home for you, one might say )
Im sure no wars will erupt between our scribes. 'Tis indeed a slight worry upon receiving news of your library, if only that such a place was built to...ahem...copy such books and scrolls from Candlekeep (.com) and immitate this place both visually and in content..... no offence intended, but it HAS happened before so obviously we were concerned.
Still, no matter, and as you stated...."I hope we can all explore the Realms in peace and not start a war of knowledge..." |
Alaundo
Candlekeep Forums Head Moderator
Candlekeep - The Library of Forgotten Realms Lore
http://www.candlekeep.com -- Candlekeep Forum Code of Conduct
An Introduction to Candlekeep - by Ed Greenwood
The Candlekeep Compendium - Tomes of Realmslore penned by Scribes of Candlekeep
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Yasraena
Senior Scribe
USA
388 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jul 2003 : 23:32:06
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'Tis indeed a slight worry upon receiving news of your library, if only that such a place was built to...ahem...copy such books and scrolls from Candlekeep (.com) and immitate this place both visually and in content..... no offence intended, but it HAS happened before so obviously we were concerned.
You know, Alaundo, when I was perusing their site a while ago, that was the first thing I thought of. It sure makes you think of this one if you've been here before and can compare the two. Although their content isn't but a tenth maybe of this site's.
Anyway, here's to 'em joining with us to even further our knowledge of our favorite fanatasy realm. |
"Nindyn vel'uss malar verin z'klaen tlu kyone ulu naut doera nindel vel'bolen nind malar."
Yasraena T'Sarran
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jul 2003 : 03:40:59
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I have to say that I made my previous entry to this scroll in jest . . . however, I also admit that I had thought it to be a deliberate copy. I had taken a look at it, and it seemed similar. Perhaps now that it's grown, it's separated itself from ours enough.
However, please be aware that others have tried to pretend to be the same people as others here. I myself have been copied. When Alaundo broke the news about this place, my thoughts imeadiately turned to such a senario. I'm afraid that that has colored my perception ever since. If that is truely undeserved, then I appologize. |
Hell hath no fury like all of Candlekeep rising in defense of one of its own.
Download the brickfilm masterpiece by Leftfield Studios! See this page for more. |
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Elrumir
Acolyte
Netherlands
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Posted - 08 Jul 2003 : 20:14:35
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Well, as I stated above, we do not intend to imitate y'all, we just try to add to the extensive knowledge found on the net. Besides, one of the requirements to get something one wrote added to our site, is sheer novelty. We won't allow any copying, name- or otherwise.
I'm sorry if our founding has set hard feelings at first, especially considering any earlier attempts at plagiarism, which we obviously do not want to commit. One thing though: while our layouts may look alike, we did not _steal_ it, it is merely a coincidence. When we opened, I felt the site looked a bit un-library-like, with orange and red colours. I then suggested using a paper-like background and more of an 'antique' font. I now realise that it _does_ look alike... A bit... Well...
Anyway... Here's to Candlekeep dot  , the best site in the Realms! |
Gods... Now theyknow how to get their ways... |
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Mythander
Learned Scribe
USA
121 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jul 2003 : 21:20:09
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I guess some one has to be "If you like Candlekeep, you'll Love Candlekeep.co.uk"
They still cannot touch the original.
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Wow! That has no saving throw written all over it. |
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Salabasha
Learned Scribe
Portugal
216 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jul 2003 : 18:18:01
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| It can't compete with the real Candlekeep. |
Life is like a box of chocolates. Once you eat the poisoned one you die. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31726 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2003 : 05:00:44
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I think it would be best if we try to refrain from stating which Candlekeep is the best. Elrumir has gone to considerable effort to explain this already, and we should really try to respect the choices and opinions of others.
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Candlekeep Forums Moderator
Candlekeep - The Library of Forgotten Realms Lore
http://www.candlekeep.com -- Candlekeep Forum Code of Conduct
Scribe for the Candlekeep Compendium -- Volume IX now available (Oct 2007)
"So Saith Ed" -- the collected Candlekeep replies of Ed Greenwood
Zhoth'ilam Folio -- The Electronic Misadventures of a Rambling Sage |
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Salabasha
Learned Scribe
Portugal
216 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2003 : 18:12:38
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Two Candlekeeps? Hahahahaha you jest.
No?
Then if I am in one and there is another where am I?
Curses I need some ale. |
Life is like a box of chocolates. Once you eat the poisoned one you die. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Trafaldi
Learned Scribe
264 Posts |
Posted - 03 Oct 2003 : 04:24:51
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| I have informed that site that they are a candlekeep full of dopplegangers. |
Some believe there is something more after death, if you really want to find out... go kill yourself and stop pestering me. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 03 Oct 2003 : 06:33:59
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| Oh, come now, Trafaldi. No need to do any flames. |
Hell hath no fury like all of Candlekeep rising in defense of one of its own.
Download the brickfilm masterpiece by Leftfield Studios! See this page for more. |
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Trafaldi
Learned Scribe
264 Posts |
Posted - 03 Oct 2003 : 16:16:43
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| I am not saying which one is better I am just saying this is the true original candlekeep. Any similarities are the fault of dopplegangers. They may be of the same quality though. |
Some believe there is something more after death, if you really want to find out... go kill yourself and stop pestering me. |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 03 Oct 2003 : 17:09:10
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Originally posted by Trafaldi
I am not saying which one is better I am just saying this is the true original candlekeep. Any similarities are the fault of dopplegangers. They may be of the same quality though.
::pins Trafaldi up against the wall by the throat::
Well you sure had better realise which one is better, Trafaldi, else i'll, i'll.....
::Lowers Trafaldi and pats him gently on the shoulder as Alaundo rounds the corner::
Only joking |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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MuadDib
Senior Scribe
South Africa
442 Posts |
Posted - 05 Oct 2003 : 07:00:41
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I suggest Elrumir and alaundo and everyone else come to the inn and have a friendly drink.
Will get my post count up and earn me another pretty star if nothing else. So stop on by...its the right thing to do. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2003 : 05:57:48
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Um . . . MuadDib, the entire Welcome section (of which the Inn is a part) is a No Credit Zone. If you look, you'll see that there are several posters with '0 posts' under their names . . . .
Someone [cough]Alaundo[/cough] should put a sign up about that . . . . |
Hell hath no fury like all of Candlekeep rising in defense of one of its own.
Download the brickfilm masterpiece by Leftfield Studios! See this page for more. |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 09 Oct 2003 : 06:41:55
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
Um . . . MuadDib, the entire Welcome section (of which the Inn is a part) is a No Credit Zone. If you look, you'll see that there are several posters with '0 posts' under their names . . . .
Someone [cough]Alaundo[/cough] should put a sign up about that . . . .
He he,Thought everybody knew this!! Don't worry MuadDib I'll be in there from time to time,Us fighters have to stick together with all the magic users everywhere. |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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