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Rollo Ruttikin
Acolyte
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Rinonalyrna,
Thanks!
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 24 Jun 2008 : 00:56:49
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Originally posted by Rollo Ruttikin
Rinonalyrna,
Thanks!
Rollo
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"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 24 Jun 2008 : 02:59:03
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Originally posted by Fillow
Thanks Pasta Fzoul.
Pasta Fzoul is simply the best name ever |
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Khaelieth
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 02 Jul 2008 : 08:19:28
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Also known on other forums as ChazSexington, Kusghuul, and Claudius.
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Kyrene
Senior Scribe
South Africa
758 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 06:55:17
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Another one I read about recently:
Milvarune, Thesk- --Tattered Sails Tavern-- --Changing Tides by Mel Odom (Realms of War anthology p.232)- |
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
France
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Posted - 24 Aug 2008 : 16:48:07
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The list is updated.
I added :
- the inn that Kyrene quoted,
- the taverns which are quoted in the FRCG,
- the owner of the Way Inn.
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Originally posted by Khaelieth
There's a bunch in Loudwater that have been missed out, from a Volo book - once I get back from work I'll post them.
I forgot to have a look at this one but I'll be back !
Please, dear English-born scribes, what exactly is a festhall ?
I'm wondering if we could insert the festhalls of the realms in our "taverns & inns" topic.
I need you to make it clear.
I'm running VGttN to answer Khaelieth's question.
while I run the book, I check all the establishments which are in it. |
"Today is a good day to smile",
Fillow Big'n'Book Mahlemiut 'Lead-dog', Son of Garl, Wanderer of the Masked Leaf and Namer of Oghma.
- Fight in the arena and have fun ! : La brute.com
- Feel free to take part to these projects : Post-Spellplague bibliography ; 4E index project ; Taverns and inns of the Realms ; Dogs of the Realms ; Descriptions of places in the novels ; forums, RPG, FR Abbreviations and Acronyms
- Come and have a look at the already asked questions from the Forgotten Realms Trivia Challenge
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 24 Aug 2008 : 17:12:31
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I have one more question about Bargewright Inn.
I found :
The Bargewright Inn, run by Tabra in Lost Empires of Faerûn, p.101.
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The Bargewright Inn, run by Feston Bargewright in Volo's Guide to the North, p. 33.
Are they the same tavern but at different period ?
Is there an inconsistency ?
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"Today is a good day to smile",
Fillow Big'n'Book Mahlemiut 'Lead-dog', Son of Garl, Wanderer of the Masked Leaf and Namer of Oghma.
- Fight in the arena and have fun ! : La brute.com
- Feel free to take part to these projects : Post-Spellplague bibliography ; 4E index project ; Taverns and inns of the Realms ; Dogs of the Realms ; Descriptions of places in the novels ; forums, RPG, FR Abbreviations and Acronyms
- Come and have a look at the already asked questions from the Forgotten Realms Trivia Challenge
I am a French FR fan, so please forgive my lapses in English language and do not hesitate to correct me. Thanks a lot. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 24 Aug 2008 : 17:14:57
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Originally posted by Fillow
Please, dear English-born scribes, what exactly is a festhall ?
TSR didn't like that Ed had a lot of brothels in the setting, due to their Comic Code rules, so they were renamed to festhalls. So, probably at least 90% of the festhalls are just brothels by another name. :)
Thus festhalls = brothels. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 24 Aug 2008 : 17:16:09
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Originally posted by Fillow
I have one more question about Bargewright Inn.
I found :
The Bargewright Inn, run by Tabra in Lost Empires of Faerûn, p.101.
and
The Bargewright Inn, run by Feston Bargewright in Volo's Guide to the North, p. 33.
Are they the same tavern but at different period ?
Is there an inconsistency ?
I'd say that they are the same tavern but with different proprietors since a few years had probably passed since the Volo's guide. |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 24 Aug 2008 : 17:17:15
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Originally posted by Fillow
Please, dear English-born scribes, what exactly is a festhall ?
Jeff Grubb applied the term "festhall" to Ed’s "brothels" for TSR Code of Ethics reasons.
More from Ed:-
"...“festhalls” [...] vary in customs, but the more elaborate ones ARE “a cross between a private club, a casino, and a brothel.”
This is due to the fact that many folk in Faerûn can readily couple with someone (on a rooftop or behind a midden in crowded cities, and ‘out in the woods’ or in a nearby thicket or hollow in a distant pasture, in a rural setting) if mere sexual gratification is all they want. What they go to the brothels for (and yes, some of these establishments are private clubs, particularly those specializing in S&M, mate-swapping, or inter-species congress) is for ‘added fun.’
By this term, I mean: striptease performances, playacting and dressing up in outlandish costumes (“Hah, my pretty, I’m not merely Rorold the fat butcher from down the street - - I’m Ravagar Wanderglar, dread pirate of the Serpent Seas!”), the chance to gamble (betting one’s body, temporary freedom, or items of clothing) or gambol (yes, dance), make love to music, have access to situations visitors wouldn’t dare try outside a club (mock rape of a priest or priestess or ruler or other authority figure), making love on a tomb, crossdressing, eating food off the bodies of strangers, and so on), and the chance (particularly in masked revels) to enjoy someone else in a small community who’s married to someone else - - to ‘find’ each other in public, or even be seen heading off to a tryst, would cause a scandal, but going to the brothel separately and getting up to all manner of hijinx there, even (in some cases) if observed by fellow community members, is ‘okay’ (the brothel is accepted as ‘outside’ normal society, a safety valve in which folk can temporarily set aside their usual public manner and status).
I see the popularity of brothels in the Realms as based on the Faerûnian love of play: as in our real world, children lose many opportunities for playing as they grow up (unless they can shift into participation in a sport, or acting, or performing and use that as an outlet), but brothels offer a place to go on playing, lifelong.
Some people never engage in a sexual physical act at a brothel, but visit them often. Some of these go to watch the fun (ogling), some go for the chance to flirt or make lewd suggestions they’d never dare utter elsewhere, and some just like to chat or play cards or drink with others while naked, or while crossdressing, or while pretending to be of a race or profession (example: the pirate above) that they’re not. Some folks frequent festhalls to play tag, or blindfolded tag, or all sorts of other games that again, are play but not necessarily sexual.
(And then of course there are also brothels that are ‘simple *****houses,’ particularly in ports where sailors make landing after long voyages without access to ‘fresh faces,’ or caravans disperse ditto.)"
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 24 Aug 2008 : 17:19:29
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Originally posted by Kuje
quote:
Originally posted by Fillow
I have one more question about Bargewright Inn.
I found :
The Bargewright Inn, run by Tabra in Lost Empires of Faerûn, p.101.
and
The Bargewright Inn, run by Feston Bargewright in Volo's Guide to the North, p. 33.
Are they the same tavern but at different period ?
Is there an inconsistency ?
I'd say that they are the same tavern but with different proprietors since a few years had probably passed since the Volo's guide.
I recall Eric Boyd suggesting this was indeed a possibility, when a similar query was raised in his scroll shortly after the release of Lost Empires. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 24 Aug 2008 : 17:22:33
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Festhalls are a bit more then that, as Ed has explained numerous times, but at their core I suppose they are indeed all Brothels.
They can also be rented out for parties, like a catering hall, and many of them serve food while providing entertainment, making them like 'dinner theatres', and many also include bathing facilities, making them similar in many ways to 'Roman Baths'.
Thus, the Realms Festhalls fill all of those functions in one. The less-srtingent 'morality' (for lack of a better word) in the Realms allows these types of businesses to be combined, unlike in the RW, where you would be looked at funny if you rented out a W___e House for your son's Bar Mitzva (though the 13 year-old boys probably wouldn't mind). 
quote:
Originally posted by Fillow
I have one more question about Bargewright Inn.
I found :
The Bargewright Inn, run by Tabra in Lost Empires of Faerûn, p.101.
and
The Bargewright Inn, run by Feston Bargewright in Volo's Guide to the North, p. 33.
Are they the same tavern but at different period ?
Is there an inconsistency ?
The newer source, LEoF, would be the correct one. She proabbly took the place over from the last owner (in that 2e source).
Edit: Damn! THREE replies in the time it took me to type this.. these boards are indeed becoming more active of late. |
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
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Pasta Fzoul
Seeker
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Posted - 06 Oct 2008 : 04:25:31
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Originally posted by Fillow
- Does someone remember where in C&D it is quoted ?
The reference to Sorenth being the proprietor is on page 54. |
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Fillow
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 06 Oct 2008 : 05:32:41
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Note also that the Purple Lady is mentioned, uh in Lords of Darkness in the Nightmasks section. I know this because I was once working on a short story set there. Plus, Ed discussed it with me. I don't recall though if I tossed his email in my Ed files. I think I did though.
Edit: Maybe I didn't after all, tried to search for it and looks like I didn't, since it's not listed in the Index and that email has since been destroyed due to hard drive deaths. But I still got the print out here somewhere. :) |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 06 Oct 2008 : 05:58:00
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Originally posted by Kuje
Edit: Maybe I didn't after all, tried to search for it and looks like I didn't, since it's not listed in the Index and that email has since been destroyed due to hard drive deaths. But I still got the print out here somewhere. :)
Any chance you can scan the print out and send it to me? At least then I can translate it into a text file and include it as an addendum to Ed's '08 replies.
I've already got a small file of Ed's brief replies that have, unfortunately, slipped through our efforts to compile every Ed-based reply THO has made here at Candlekeep, and Ed's own on the REALMs-L from years past. It shouldn't take too much for me to add this reply also. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 06 Oct 2008 : 06:07:28
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I could scan it, aye. I just gotta find it. Uh, might take awhile cause I'm not sure exactly, in the last two years, where I stuck it. :)
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Originally posted by The Sage
Any chance you can scan the print out and send it to me? At least then I can translate it into a text file and include it as an addendum to Ed's '08 replies.
I've already got a small file of Ed's brief replies that have, unfortunately, slipped through our efforts to compile every Ed-based reply THO has made here at Candlekeep, and Ed's own on the REALMs-L from years past. It shouldn't take too much for me to add this reply also.
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For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 06 Oct 2008 : 06:13:17
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Ah, there's no hurry. Heh. I was only asking because I thought you might have had easy access to it still. But I know from experience what it's like when things like that are slowly buried under everything else.
So let me just say... Good luck!  |
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 Oct 2008 : 02:25:52
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| Okay, after asking THO to hunt up the replies, I realized that I did include them but they are in the 2005 Ed files, not the 2006. :) So, if you want more about the Purple Lady, they are from July 18th to 21st 2005. |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
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Kyrene
Senior Scribe
South Africa
758 Posts |
Posted - 15 Nov 2008 : 19:31:15
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Some more for this list:
Selgaunt-Foreign District--The Gilt Lizard--Preht, his wife and daughters--Twilight Falling (p. 110)-
Selgaunt-on the wharves--The Scarlet Knave-- --Twilight Falling (p. 111)-
Selgaunt-Foreign District--The Silver Lion-- --Twilight Falling (p. 13)-
Also, the entry for The Black Stag may have to change (SPOILER):
In Twilight Falling (chapter 4), the Black Stag burns down due to a mage attack of fireballs.
An additional reference for this one:
Westgate- --The Black Boot-- --Twilight Falling (p. 111)- |
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
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Kyrene
Senior Scribe
South Africa
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Posted - 16 Nov 2008 : 17:00:46
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Also from Mister Kemp's excellent novel:
Starmantle- --The Bent Chalice-- --Twilight Falling (p. 230)-
Starmantle- --The Stone Hearth-- --Twilight Falling (p. 237)-
Starmantle- --The Underworld-- --Twilight Falling (p. 240)-
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