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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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 Posted - 12 Sep 2007 : 00:29:27
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
My FLGS is pretty good about getting stuff in the day it releases... Hopefully, the book will be in my hands in about 12 hours or so.
I got my dates confused. It's next week that the book comes out.  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Brian R. James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer
USA
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 12 Sep 2007 : 03:22:15
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Originally posted by Brian R. James
More excerpts have been posted online at http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4ex/20070911a
Wow, I didn't know they were going to do excerpts. And my monarchs made it in! Woohoo!
Eagerly awaiting my author copies.
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
1618 Posts |
Posted - 12 Sep 2007 : 05:30:40
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I compared the preview timeline to Brian's original history of the forgotten Realms PDF, very very nice. It is great to see his work utilized and expanded upon.
As a side note, are there any issues with hanging onto Brian's original work, now that WOTC is producing product from it? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 12 Sep 2007 : 06:40:26
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Originally posted by scererar
As a side note, are there any issues with hanging onto Brian's original work, now that WOTC is producing product from it?
If you already have a copy, there's nothing they can legally do about it -- it was freely distributed by the author and by others authorized by the author.
However, they are well within their rights to ask that the pdf no longer be distributed, since they basically bought it for their own licensing purposes.
I've got multiple copies of the final free version of the History. And I'm keeping them. It's not the same as the print product, but it's still useful. |
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Brenigin
Learned Scribe
New Zealand
117 Posts |
Posted - 12 Sep 2007 : 12:43:38
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| I'm a little disappointed that they appear to be recycling art for this book, but I would rather that than have no book at all - and it's the text that counts! |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 12 Sep 2007 : 15:55:33
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Originally posted by Brenigin
I'm a little disappointed that they appear to be recycling art for this book, but I would rather that than have no book at all - and it's the text that counts!
Ehh... They were recycling art back in the days of TSR. |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
2104 Posts |
Posted - 12 Sep 2007 : 16:01:16
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Brenigin
I'm a little disappointed that they appear to be recycling art for this book, but I would rather that than have no book at all - and it's the text that counts!
Ehh... They were recycling art back in the days of TSR.
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
2104 Posts |
Posted - 12 Sep 2007 : 16:04:19
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Originally posted by Ayunken-vanzan
No problems seeing the pages here. The only sad thing: such a great preview for a product which will arrive in Europe probably weeks or months after it's release in the US. 
I'd say it depends on where you buy it. I can usually get any Wizards product within a week of the release, and half that time is because of the Swedish Mail having had to downsize quite a bit in recent years (silly e-mail senders, can't you see what we're losing - and think of the poor historians of future years ). |
There is a rumour going around that I have found god. I think is unlikely because I have enough difficulty finding my keys, and there is empirical evidence that they exist.
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1120 Posts |
Posted - 12 Sep 2007 : 19:56:53
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I like of the comment of Rich Baker. Looking for a more ample aspect, we're receiving the books that we wanted. Tomes like Power of Faerun, Dragons of Faerun, A Grand History...all full of lore and with little mechanics... more emphazis in the characters, situations and consequences...
And, of course, the excerpts are awesome!!! |
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freyar
Learned Scribe
Canada
220 Posts |
Posted - 13 Sep 2007 : 22:57:42
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| Hey, everybody, someone at EN World claims to have a copy of this and has put out spoilers from 1384-1385 on this thread. If it's not a bad joke, this is, I think, not only sad for the setting but a confirmation that the designers are just playing around with the Realms. Edit: I mean that this sounds like it was handed down from on high and not anything the authors would have chosen to do. Is there anyone who can/is willing to confirm this? |
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1273 Posts |
Posted - 13 Sep 2007 : 23:20:44
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Originally posted by freyar
Hey, everybody, someone at EN World claims to have a copy of this and has put out spoilers from 1384-1385 on this thread.
The death of Mystra 2.0 is quite plausible (and a good thing IMHO, I never liked her), however I don't understand the designer's intent on Helm's death.
Edit : A new message on ENWorld gives details about Helm's death, seems good to me. |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1120 Posts |
Posted - 13 Sep 2007 : 23:37:33
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I expect that this is nothing more that a joke of very bad taste.  |
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Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
892 Posts |
Posted - 13 Sep 2007 : 23:44:27
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Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin
I expect that this is nothing more that a joke of very bad taste.
I guess we'll have to wait and see, not a lot of use commenting on it until we know for sure. |
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Uzzy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Sep 2007 : 23:46:17
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I do hope this is a joke. That sounds really bad.
Edit: It's been mentioned over at the WoTC boards too. Post time puts it before the ENWorld thread, and it would appear to be a different poster. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 14 Sep 2007 : 01:37:38
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Those...were truly some of the dumbest tidbits I've read in a long time.
And I'll bet it's not a joke.
PS: Seriously, the reason for the Spellplague, if those sources are correct, is much lamer than I expected it would be. |
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Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 14 Sep 2007 01:38:28 |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1120 Posts |
Posted - 14 Sep 2007 : 01:45:44
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Those...were truly some of the dumbest tidbits I've read in a long time.
And I'll bet it's not a joke.
PS: Seriously, the reason for the Spellplague, if those sources are correct, is much lamer than I expected it would be.
Agree. I say, Cyric? If it was Bane, of Shar, or even Lathander and his Dawn Cataclism, ok... but Cyric? Oh, my... |
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Uzzy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
618 Posts |
Posted - 14 Sep 2007 : 01:53:50
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And it would seem that another poster on ENWorld has the book and is confirming what the others said. This makes me a sad panda.
We barely even got to explore the potential of the new Mystra. Sigh. |
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Foxhelm
Senior Scribe
Canada
592 Posts |
Posted - 14 Sep 2007 : 01:54:49
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| Any details on Finder Wyvernspur in the new book? I am curious for my own reasons. Thanks. |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
1618 Posts |
Posted - 14 Sep 2007 : 02:11:59
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Originally posted by Uzzy
And it would seem that another poster on ENWorld has the book and is confirming what the others said. This makes me a sad panda.
We barely even got to explore the potential of the new Mystra. Sigh.
the new Mystra has been around for about 20 RW years.
edit by Scererar: correction, the novel Waterdeep (avatar trilogy) was first printed in 1989 (18 RW years) |
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1273 Posts |
Posted - 14 Sep 2007 : 02:16:27
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So I am really the only one happy to see Mystra 2.0 killed and Cyric banned ?  |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 14 Sep 2007 : 02:19:34
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Originally posted by Skeptic
So I am really the only one happy to see Mystra 2.0 killed and Cyric banned ?
I consider myself as a dedicated realms fan for over 20 years. I do not necessarily want all that we know killed off, but change is not so bad. I say we wait and see what is going to be published before we get too upset over our setting. Look at the published realms from the beginning. I started right before the ToT, so... around 1356-58 the "official" current realms time line is 1374-75 right?. I run My own campaign time line at 1370 right now. So really the time line has changed about a year RW per year of realms time?? Maybe 100 years is too much, but I am kind of anticipating what will come
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freyar
Learned Scribe
Canada
220 Posts |
Posted - 14 Sep 2007 : 02:24:55
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| I actually like Midnight, I mean Mystra. Then again, my first exposure to the Realms was the ToT. The real problem that I have with this is that it seems like we're headed toward a "reset" of the setting, in which we won't really know much about it anymore. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 14 Sep 2007 : 02:26:59
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Originally posted by Skeptic
So I am really the only one happy to see Mystra 2.0 killed and Cyric banned ?
I think it's deja-vu at best (sort of). And I also like the new Mystra--20 years is a blink of an eye for a god to be around. |
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 14 Sep 2007 : 03:00:56
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Says a prayer for the lovely curvaceous Midnight... maybe Adon the Solar will take the Magic portfolio and control the Weave for a 100 years... wait! [gasp!] THAT's why the Spellplague happens! arcane spellcasters go nuts when they are confronted with the ex-Sunite's view of the Weave! (a beautiful, BEAUTIFUL rainbow!!!!!!)
Edit: if these rumors are true... yes... lame... soooo lame....  |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1120 Posts |
Posted - 14 Sep 2007 : 04:25:31
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Originally posted by Skeptic
So I am really the only one happy to see Mystra 2.0 killed and Cyric banned ?
I will be very happy with Cyric obliterated and Mystra banned. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 14 Sep 2007 : 04:33:50
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Originally posted by Skeptic
So I am really the only one happy to see Mystra 2.0 killed and Cyric banned ?
I've never had a problem with Mystra 2.0, and have oft argued with those who did (because I so often see a misconception cited as their reasoning for disliking her).
Cyric I've never liked. He's always struck me as a cowardly, opportunistic git. He'd be almost tragic, if it wasn't for the fact that he's pathetic. |
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1273 Posts |
Posted - 14 Sep 2007 : 04:39:51
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I've never had a problem with Mystra 2.0, and have oft argued with those who did (because I so often see a misconception cited as their reasoning for disliking her).
I simply don't like the idea of a ascended Good god of Magic in a high-fantasy setting like FR. |
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore
USA
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A Grand History of the Realms (product)
