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Charles Phipps
Master of Realmslore
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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 Posted - 05 Jan 2007 : 23:29:26
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Originally posted by Charles Phipps
If you really want to rebuttal me, maybe you should stop focusing on MY preferences that seem to offend you and tell me exactly how the characters are remaining static as people. The Day of our Lives angst they suffer over their talks about love and children as well as growing older is certainly new to the series in the Hunter's Blade Trilogy and unwelcome by me.
Drizzt's journal entries have been around for quite some time now.
Also, some people, at least some of the time, enjoy reading about how characters change as they deal with the events around them. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Charles Phipps
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 05 Jan 2007 : 23:33:19
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It's not Drizzt's journals I object to (though reading about Drizzt talking about Artemis in ARTEMIS' OWN BOOK was a level of surreal in the Sellswords). It's when he continues to brood and angst about these things in the text. It went beyond the pale when even CATTIE started worrying about them.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 05 Jan 2007 : 23:35:55
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Originally posted by Charles Phipps
It's not Drizzt's journals I object to (though reading about Drizzt talking about Artemis in ARTEMIS' OWN BOOK was a level of surreal in the Sellswords). It's when he continues to brood and angst about these things in the text. It went beyond the pale when even CATTIE started worrying about them.
Still, though, Drizzt's introspective nature isn't anything new--he's been that way ever since the first book. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Charles Phipps
Master of Realmslore
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Wellin_Adipocere
Acolyte
Canada
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Posted - 06 Jan 2007 : 02:26:04
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| I personally am stoked to read the next book. An actual working orc settlement will turn the realms for a spin. So long has the orcs of the realms been unstable turncoats and now they will be given their due. RAS is finally changing some of the fantasy genres oldest stereotypes. Along with this RAS is adding yet another dimension to his characters that will finally realize that every problem can't be solved with full-on attacks and a more diplomatic approach might be necessary. Long live King Obould! |
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 07 Jan 2007 : 12:58:21
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Kaysae
Acolyte
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Posted - 07 Jan 2007 : 14:47:35
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| I haven't seen it mentioned yet (or I missed it), but the new Drizz't novel is tentatively titled "The Orc King". According to his forums anway. |
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Charles Phipps
Master of Realmslore
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 Jan 2007 : 20:08:42
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Originally posted by Charles Phipps
I doubt Artemis Entreri will show up...
I hope not. I really don't think that would add anything to the ongoing story-arc. Time to develop new characters and themes. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Charles Phipps
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 07 Jan 2007 : 21:10:49
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I'm not so sure.
I don't think that Drizzt really has anyone to develop him BUT Artemis. Obould can't because he hasn't struck at him personally and is as far removed from Drizzt as possible.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 Jan 2007 : 22:35:23
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Originally posted by Charles Phipps
I'm not so sure.
I don't think that Drizzt really has anyone to develop him BUT Artemis. Obould can't because he hasn't struck at him personally and is as far removed from Drizzt as possible.
Well, didn't Obould set the events into motion that caused Drizzt to temporarily be estranged from his friends, as well as thinking they were dead? I would not say Obould is "as far as removed from Drizzt as possible", but that's just me. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Charles Phipps
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 07 Jan 2007 : 23:47:39
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Well true but that's a temporary inconvenience.
If Salvatore would have him off Regis or something to that effect, it might make the "Arch-enemies" charge stick more but its noteworthy that Obould doesn't really seem to view Drizzt as anything but a minor impediment to his plans.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 08 Jan 2007 : 01:23:15
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| Nothing wrong with that. Characters in novels don't need to formally be "arch-enemies". |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Charles Phipps
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 08 Jan 2007 : 01:36:42
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Well in the case of Drizzt and company, I think it helps the Drama if we see a character emotionally invested. It doesn't have to be the case of the main villain caring about the heroes.....but it helps. Honestly, I'm mostly just surprised Drizzt and company don't seem more appalled with the bloody swath Obould has cut across the North.
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 09 Jan 2007 : 05:02:17
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I'm curious about what RAS said in his recent interview on WOTC's site. It had been mentioned before that he was going to do one novel a year for WOTC, but he said in his interveiw that he is feeling really energized and he is ahead of schedule in his writing and may end up doing two a year.
This makes me wonder, does this mean he is going to step up the Drizzt novels, or does this mean that we might see a continuation of the Artemis or perhaps Jarlaxle storylines? I'll be curious to see how this turns out. Perhaps with a "guaranteed" Drizzt book every year, he might write a second book featuring, or developing, more of his supporting characters. |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 09 Jan 2007 : 05:07:42
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Weiser_Cain
Seeker
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Posted - 11 Jan 2007 : 09:10:19
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| At the risk of repeating myself I'm very interested in what Obould is up to as he's currently my favorite FR character. |
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yargarth
Seeker
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Posted - 12 Jan 2007 : 03:53:59
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| Thats great! I really want to know more about the whole Drizzt may be in Loths favor for betraying her but, I was not to thrilled with ending of the last sellswords book... |
"You take a step, then another. That's the journey. But to take a step with your eyes open is not a journey at all, it's a remaking of your own mind."
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Paec_djinn
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 15 Jan 2007 : 02:17:16
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At the risk of repeating myself I'm very interested in what Obould is up to as he's currently my favorite FR character.
The title of the next novel is The Orc King (according to O-love's site), so I'm guessing we'll see what he's up to in that novel. |
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Trizzt08
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 23 Jan 2007 : 03:56:37
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wow I like the way Salvatore writes and hope he NEVER changes or anybody.It's funny how people can say they are tired of Drizzt when it's only a book a year, I whish they'd come out faster. His books are highly intropsective and you never really know where everything is going. I'm glad he finally worked it in with Cattie took him long enough Now here come the half-drow kids Artemis and Jaraxle will probaly be back in the fold, from what Ive read in Road of the Patriach he seems destined to make his way back with Jaraxle and the dwarf right behind him. OH ANOTHER THING HAS EVERYBODY SEEN OR HEARD OF THE SONY READER,BOOKS ON A PDA LIKE DEVICE ALL YOUR BOOKS IN ONE PLACE |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 23 Jan 2007 : 23:54:43
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Originally posted by Trizzt08
wow I like the way Salvatore writes and hope he NEVER changes or anybody.It's funny how people can say they are tired of Drizzt when it's only a book a year...
Because:
1) Not everyone is crazy for Drizzt the way you are, and...
2) "Only" one book per year? That's more than any other FR character gets. A lot more. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Crust
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 25 Jan 2007 : 01:47:57
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I'm always excited for any new RAS-FR novel. I might have little nit-picky problems with what happens in his novels, but I have those same problems with a lot of stories in media (comic book movies, Star Wars, etc.). I'm a hopeless fanboy.
Obould had BETTER die in this new series. And it should be an embarassing defeat at the drow's hands. RAS owes us that much after 5 years of waiting for the inevitable.
Heck, I still feel cheated over the front cover of The Thousand Orcs, but that's not Salvatore's fault.  |
"That's right, hurl back views that force ye to think by name-calling - 'tis the grand old tradition, let it not down! Anything to keep from having to think, or - Mystra forfend - change thy own views!"
Narnra glowered at her father. "Just how am I to learn how to think? By being taught by you?"
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 25 Jan 2007 : 02:26:18
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| I hope Obould doesn't die in the next series. :-P |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Lameth
Learned Scribe
Germany
196 Posts |
Posted - 18 Mar 2007 : 15:46:19
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The Orc King: Transitions, Book I (Transitions)
03/17/2007
Coming Fall 2007 The Orc King, book 1 in the Transitions trilogy.
Drizzt is back in this exciting new trilogy from R.A. Salvatore!
An uneasy peace between the dwarves of Mithral Hall and the orcs of the newly established Kingdom of Many-Arrows can't last long. The orc tribes united under Obould begin to fight each other, and Bruenor is determined to finish the war that nearly killed him and almost destroyed everything he's worked to build. But it will take more than swords and axes to bring a lasting peace to the Spine of the World. Powerful individuals on both sides may have to change the way they see each other. They may have to start to talk. But it won't be easy. |
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laethyn
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 19 Mar 2007 : 02:22:23
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| How can Obould die? I don't belive timeframe would allow that, as he is alive and well in the offical FRCS. That said, I've heard nothing but good from those who have gotten ARCs |
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initiate
Learned Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 19 Mar 2007 : 02:38:45
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| There are ARCs of "The Orc King?" Comments positive you say? [no spoilers please, the novel's still a long way from its September release date] |
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Dhomal
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 19 Mar 2007 : 04:57:04
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Hello-
Ah - ARCs exist? :) I may have one on the way to me then! :)
I have one of one of his earlier novels.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 19 Mar 2007 : 22:57:43
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Originally posted by Lameth
The Orc King: Transitions, Book I (Transitions)
03/17/2007
Coming Fall 2007 The Orc King, book 1 in the Transitions trilogy.
Drizzt is back in this exciting new trilogy from R.A. Salvatore!
An uneasy peace between the dwarves of Mithral Hall and the orcs of the newly established Kingdom of Many-Arrows can't last long. The orc tribes united under Obould begin to fight each other, and Bruenor is determined to finish the war that nearly killed him and almost destroyed everything he's worked to build. But it will take more than swords and axes to bring a lasting peace to the Spine of the World. Powerful individuals on both sides may have to change the way they see each other. They may have to start to talk. But it won't be easy.
Talking in lieu of fighting? I mean it when I say that's something I can look foward to in a novel. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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laethyn
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 19 Mar 2007 : 23:34:43
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| There are a couple of people over at Bobs official messageboard talking about how much they enjoyed their ARCs. I'm keeping a close eye as I certainly don't want anything ruined for anyone. We've all been waiting a while for a new Drizzt novel! (Ahem, though I have to admit, right now, I'm eagerly awaiting any info on The Highwayman (A Corona novel) sequel!) |
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New Drizzt novel by R.A. Salvatore in Oct 2007
