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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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 Posted - 30 Apr 2005 : 23:44:25
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I'm not going to be quick to do so, but I can at least buy the line that Changelings and Shifters, due to their backgrounds, could work in the Realms. I am not going out of my way to use them, however.
Since the Realms is all about gates and cross dimentional barriers, however, I am incorporating the Far Realm and alienist wizards into the setting as part of a MASSIVE long term conspiracy. In that same vein, I am using the AEG d20 Magic sourcebook for Chronomancy, mainly because it did exist in the Realms at one time (2e) and I had already written it into my bigger plans back then.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 01 May 2005 : 02:55:02
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Since the Realms is all about gates and cross dimentional barriers, however, I am incorporating the Far Realm and alienist wizards into the setting as part of a MASSIVE long term conspiracy.
I'd like to know how that turns out.
Although I am all for incorporating the planes more closely into the Realms, I've often bypassed bringing the Far Realm more into connection with the Realms. I want it to be exclusively something that works with my PS campaigns.
But that doesn't mean that I don't like hearing about the experiences of other DMs who do use it with their FR games...  .
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Rhezarnos
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Posted - 01 May 2005 : 04:44:08
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| I heard of a guy who add MTG in his campaign... Heh, would like to see how the Phyrexians like Toril. Another Invasion, perhaps? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 01 May 2005 : 05:01:44
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I don't doubt that there would be little left that would be recognisable as the Realms we know today if the Phyrexians came to Faerun.
This actually reminds me of a conversation from another forum about the possible conclusions that could be made from a major Sliver invasion of the Realms.
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Rhezarnos
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Posted - 01 May 2005 : 05:18:59
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Hmm...the elves in MTG, they moon, sun or wood? I'm thinking the Llanowar are wood, but then again, I could be wrong...
I'd like to incorporate MTG's spells into the realms though, powerful stuff it is...and the worms and lhurgoyfs (is the spelling correct?). Yea, worms in the realms would make adventuring the the forest much more interesting  |
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Charon
Acolyte
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Posted - 01 May 2005 : 05:24:10
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ahhhh good ol Phyrexians...spiked chaps aren't they? enjoy death?
i enjoyed them and the invasion series aswell as Prophecy and nemesis...In my opinion the some of the best series' in the card game.
By the way, I've read that Nemesis means 'a retriburtive strike of sorts' named after the Greek goddess of Retribution...is this true, or is Nemesis just your worst enemy...or both.
Neway, i just wanted to say that i've created a 15th level character for a new campaign my friend created. I decided to tell you guys this because i think that it really exciting (my new character) after seeing the topic on who win (Bane or cyric). I'd prefer Cyric to be honest...but my favourite Deity is Bhaal hands down...Why can't i find his portfolio in any of the FR books?
Neway - the character i created is called Fellane (pron. Fell-ar-nee) Hallowhope and she is a Deathstalker of Bhaal and her second title is the "Bringer of pestilence"...which she gains from her deadly use of magic and a fanastically deadly dagger. From this campaign i referred to earlier, these ideas spawned - I'm writing about her life and how she came into Bhaal's service and ive drawn several wicked pictures of her - let me know if you want to see them or any decent pics i've done of Entreri of Jarlaxle.
I want to make her a chosen of Bhaal and for her to be his right hand gal (like Fzoul is to Bane) because she could seriously kick some ass - she did in the campaign(backstabbing the rogue assassin,etc but more on that later).
So could you guys let me know about Bhaal...i read the FR camapaign setting and other sources and i know cyric slew him, but i heard he was still out there...his clerics gain their power form somewhere...
Neway, let me know what you think
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 01 May 2005 : 05:40:19
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Originally posted by Charon
So could you guys let me know about Bhaal...i read the FR camapaign setting and other sources and i know cyric slew him, but i heard he was still out there...his clerics gain their power form somewhere...
I shall direct you to this informative scroll and note that there is a 'Deathstalker of Bhaal' PrC presented in Dragon #322 that provides further details on the status of Bhaal's 'faith'.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 01 May 2005 : 15:02:00
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I'd prefer Cyric to be honest...but my favourite Deity is Bhaal hands down...Why can't i find his portfolio in any of the FR books?
Because he's dead.
Info on him can be found in two 2E sources: Faiths & Avatars (which I highly recommend) and the old Forgotten Realms Adventures. |
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Rudar Dimble
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 01 May 2005 : 15:43:53
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Charon
So could you guys let me know about Bhaal...i read the FR camapaign setting and other sources and i know cyric slew him, but i heard he was still out there...his clerics gain their power form somewhere...
I shall direct you to this informative scroll and note that there is a 'Deathstalker of Bhaal' PrC presented in Dragon #322 that provides further details on the status of Bhaal's 'faith'.
Are there people still worshipping him? |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 01 May 2005 : 16:17:34
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Originally posted by Rudar Dimble
Are there people still worshipping him?
Faiths and Avatars on page 46 had this to day about those who still worship Bhaal:
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What isolated and minute pockets of pure Bhaal worship still exist are usually in remote rural areas, presided over by an ancient priest. Many of these former worshipers are now venerating the orcish and other nonhuman pantheons as well.
I don't recall if Faiths and Pantheons provided an update regarding the above statement. Does any scribe know? |
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Arivia
Great Reader
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Posted - 01 May 2005 : 17:20:22
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Originally posted by Rudar Dimble
Are there people still worshipping him?
Faiths and Avatars on page 46 had this to day about those who still worship Bhaal:
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What isolated and minute pockets of pure Bhaal worship still exist are usually in remote rural areas, presided over by an ancient priest. Many of these former worshipers are now venerating the orcish and other nonhuman pantheons as well.
I don't recall if Faiths and Pantheons provided an update regarding the above statement. Does any scribe know?
Neither LEoF or Faiths and Pantheons included any updates to that statement, no. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 02 May 2005 : 01:44:01
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I don't have the issue here with me at the moment, but didn't the Bhaal PrC article in Dragon mention something about the current status of Bhaal worship in the Realms?
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Rudar Dimble
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 02 May 2005 : 05:54:08
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I don't have the issue here with me at the moment, but didn't the Bhaal PrC article in Dragon mention something about the current status of Bhaal worship in the Realms?
Well, this was in Dragon Magazine (don't know if I am allowed to post this, but it's only a short citation and without the stats of the PrC, so I guess it's ok.
Deathstalkers are the murderous servants of Bhaal, the Lord of Murder. Reduced to a scattered cult by their god's death and fervent persecution by worshippers of Cyric, this group of priest-assassins is making a name for itself and reestablishing small temples throughout Faerûn.
These zealous killers are dedicated to Bhaal and exhibit all of the powers they lost in the wake of the Godswar. However, it is unclear from where their power comes. Those few aware of the cult suspect the influence of Set encroaching on the portfolio of the mad Cyric, while others believe their powers to stem from Cyric himself. Still others point to recent troubles with the Bhaalspawn and the whispered resurrection of the one, true Bhaal. Whatever the origin of their abilities, the deathstalkers are a fearsome and dangerous lot.
Deathstalkers believe that every murder committed in his name strengthens Bhaal, bringing closer his unholy rebirth. As a result, they view murder as both a pastime and a duty. They are required to deal death once in every tenday in the heart of the night. If imprisonment or other constraining circumstances make this impossible, deathstalkers have to murder twice for each murder missed. In accordance with the Lord of Murder's teachings, deathstalkers strive to ensure that before they die, murder victims know who is killing them and that their death is in the name of Bhaal, intoning, "Bhaal awaits thee, Bhaal embraces thee, none escape Bhaal."
Nearly all deathstalkers are clerics, although many are multiclassed as rogues and a few are multiclassed as barbarians, fighters, rangers, or other classes.
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hammer of Moradin
Senior Scribe
USA
758 Posts |
Posted - 02 May 2005 : 08:04:13
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I wouldn't mind hearing what you think about the Eberron Changelings, based on those details SB?
I want to hear first from hammer of Moradin as to how he is considering placing them within the Realms.
Take away the "Eberron" in Sage's question, and tell us what you think of the race on its own merits. Do you think they would fit in the Realms?
I caught part (most, cuz I love the movie!) of The Thing, Carpenter's remake, and I thought of what I said about the Cylons. Well, this movie, and the various Body Snatchers flicks, are another great example of the paranoia I would love to put in a game sometime. While changelings are not going to give me that level of suspense and self-preservation, they do add a lingering-in-the-back-of-their-head's suspicion about what the DM can throw at the players at any given moment.
I like changelings more because they aren't too powerful, so players can use them. The old Alter Self spell by itself created more than a few sticky situations for my players and characters. Having a character that can Alter Self at will creates all kinds of roleplaying situations worth having them in the game for. Throw them in among some of the established organizations of Toril, and its that much better.
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1073 Posts |
Posted - 02 May 2005 : 09:01:33
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| I once included an invasion by the burning legion(from warcraft) in my game, and it became one big mess. |
If I were a ranger, I would pick NDA for my favorite enemy |
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Rhezarnos
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Posted - 02 May 2005 : 10:34:43
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I once included an invasion by the burning legion(from warcraft) in my game, and it became one big mess.
Did Sargeras entered or just his goons? Hmm...now that you mentioned it, if Alexstrasza and the other Aspects enter the realms, would it make them gods in the dragon pantheon? |
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Rudar Dimble
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 02 May 2005 : 10:56:48
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Originally posted by khorne
I once included an invasion by the burning legion(from warcraft) in my game, and it became one big mess.
Did Sargeras entered or just his goons? Hmm...now that you mentioned it, if Alexstrasza and the other Aspects enter the realms, would it make them gods in the dragon pantheon?
I doubt it would. May be after some years or decades or so... |
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Rhezarnos
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Posted - 02 May 2005 : 13:41:31
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| Should introduce Neltharion (Deathwing) to Tiamat. They'll make a lovely couple. I'd like to see if Sargeras can turn orcs in the Realm to be at least on par with the orcs in Warcraft. Doubt it though, unless all orcs are like Obould. |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 02 May 2005 : 14:31:13
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Originally posted by Rhezarnos
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Originally posted by khorne
I once included an invasion by the burning legion(from warcraft) in my game, and it became one big mess.
Did Sargeras enter or just his goons?
The whole bunch. Tichondrius ran into Khelben, Halaster and Laeral in waterdeep, so he didn`t last long, but Mannoroth managed to sack half of Silverymoon, and Archimonde and his doomguards made a real mess of evermeet. I had included a couple random events so Kil`jaeden was really unlucky, because I had included the possibility of gods appearing to help save the world, and because of a few unfortunate rolls of the dice Kil`jaeden had to duke it out with Shaundakul, Torm and Clangedinn.(but he managed to whack shaundakul before he was destroyed). I was stupid enough to include Sargeras, so he laid waste to both Sembia and Cormyr. When I realized my mistake and tried to get rid of him, he proved a match for everything I threw at him. |
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Rhezarnos
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Posted - 02 May 2005 : 19:25:03
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| Woohoo! Way to go Sar! The realms wasted in such a way... Good thing it's not Phyrexians. Can imagine what would happen... Gond would be proud of their works as they totally obliterate and assimilate everything |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 02 May 2005 : 20:26:21
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Woohoo! Way to go Sar! The realms wasted in such a way... Good thing it's not Phyrexians. Can imagine what would happen... Gond would be proud of their works as they totally obliterate and assimilate everything
Actually, he was stopped, when my random deity roll made him face Tempus, Mask, Corellon and Mystra.Unfortunately he had managed to thrash Tyr, Helm, Silvanus and Lathander before this(guess I made him to powerful)Oh, and corellon is not happy, because he lost an arm. |
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Charon
Acolyte
Australia
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Posted - 02 May 2005 : 23:42:06
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So could you guys let me know about Bhaal...i read the FR camapaign setting and other sources and i know cyric slew him, but i heard he was still out there...his clerics gain their power form somewhere...
I shall direct you to this informative scroll and note that there is a 'Deathstalker of Bhaal' PrC presented in Dragon #322 that provides further details on the status of Bhaal's 'faith'.
yeah i got that one...that's where i got the idea from
thanks anyway...and BHAALS NOT DEAD!
refer above to the excerpt from the DRAGON article
i'm going to believe that the one true Bhaal shall return
thanks guys |
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Rhezarnos
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Posted - 03 May 2005 : 01:45:24
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| Ouch...took four gods to knock of one Titan... |
Playing a winged dwarf with acrophobia is fun. |
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Rudar Dimble
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 03 May 2005 : 08:55:35
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Originally posted by Charon
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Charon
So could you guys let me know about Bhaal...i read the FR camapaign setting and other sources and i know cyric slew him, but i heard he was still out there...his clerics gain their power form somewhere...
I shall direct you to this informative scroll and note that there is a 'Deathstalker of Bhaal' PrC presented in Dragon #322 that provides further details on the status of Bhaal's 'faith'.
yeah i got that one...that's where i got the idea from
thanks anyway...and BHAALS NOT DEAD!
refer above to the excerpt from the DRAGON article
i'm going to believe that the one true Bhaal shall return
thanks guys
Any ideas on what will happen then if he would? |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 03 May 2005 : 11:29:36
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Originally posted by Rudar Dimble
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Originally posted by Charon
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Charon
So could you guys let me know about Bhaal...i read the FR camapaign setting and other sources and i know cyric slew him, but i heard he was still out there...his clerics gain their power form somewhere...
I shall direct you to this informative scroll and note that there is a 'Deathstalker of Bhaal' PrC presented in Dragon #322 that provides further details on the status of Bhaal's 'faith'.
yeah i got that one...that's where i got the idea from
thanks anyway...and BHAALS NOT DEAD!
refer above to the excerpt from the DRAGON article
i'm going to believe that the one true Bhaal shall return
thanks guys
Any ideas on what will happen then if he would?
Well he certainly would have no reasons to like cyric and Bane. |
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Rudar Dimble
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 03 May 2005 : 14:23:58
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Originally posted by khorne
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Originally posted by Rudar Dimble
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Originally posted by Charon
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Charon
So could you guys let me know about Bhaal...i read the FR camapaign setting and other sources and i know cyric slew him, but i heard he was still out there...his clerics gain their power form somewhere...
I shall direct you to this informative scroll and note that there is a 'Deathstalker of Bhaal' PrC presented in Dragon #322 that provides further details on the status of Bhaal's 'faith'.
yeah i got that one...that's where i got the idea from
thanks anyway...and BHAALS NOT DEAD!
refer above to the excerpt from the DRAGON article
i'm going to believe that the one true Bhaal shall return
thanks guys
Any ideas on what will happen then if he would?
Well he certainly would have no reasons to like cyric and Bane.
Obviously not, but will there be a religious war? Will Cyric and Bane team up against Bhaal? Could be a cool novel... |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 May 2005 : 14:36:59
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Will Cyric and Bane team up against Bhaal? Could be a cool novel...
I'm not sure even the return of Bhaal could get Cyric and Bane to work together. |
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Rudar Dimble
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 03 May 2005 : 14:41:32
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Will Cyric and Bane team up against Bhaal? Could be a cool novel...
I'm not sure even the return of Bhaal could get Cyric and Bane to work together.
May be if Bhaal started a war against one of them, the other could take advantage of it. Or they could be fighting each other....anyway, I would love to read about it! |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 03 May 2005 : 17:32:20
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Originally posted by Rudar Dimble
May be if Bhaal started a war against one of them, the other could take advantage of it. Or they could be fighting each other....anyway, I would love to read about it!
Bhaal was never all that strong... Taking on either Cyric or Bane would be a good way for him to die again.
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Xysma
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What have you imported into the Realms?
