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TheEasilyDiseased
Acolyte
Canada
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 Posted - 15 Sep 2008 : 01:44:26
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Originally posted by XNedra
Cattiebrie is a quiet heroine but I think my fav overall would have to be Drizzt's dad. Only thing is I cannot remember his name (now I feel shame) . He died to protect his son (sort of). Something rarely heard of in the underdark[/font=Lucida Console]
Drizzt's dad's name is zaknafein (just finished reading Homeland)
To me, the greatest hero would be...Mask, yes mask, because he risked himself by defying cyric and hiding kelemvor from him during part of the time of troubles |
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StarBog
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
152 Posts |
Posted - 15 Sep 2008 : 10:09:06
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Thrall?
*joke*
Of the "mortals", I would say Azoun IV. He stopped the Tuigans, and aided by Vangey, foiled just about every bad guy or group in Faerun in some fashion, and created a strong and prosperous nation. |
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Pandora
Learned Scribe
Germany
305 Posts |
Posted - 15 Sep 2008 : 11:38:44
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Originally posted by Alisttair
KARSUS
Shouldnt he be ranked among the villains since he screwed up magic for us? |
If you cant say what youre meaning,
you can never mean what youre saying.
- Centauri Minister of Intelligence, Babylon 5 |
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
3741 Posts |
Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 00:15:42
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Originally posted by Pandora
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Originally posted by Alisttair
KARSUS
Shouldnt he be ranked among the villains since he screwed up magic for us?
-Of course not. Risking everything for my people- is that not an extremely virtuous and heroic character trait? |
(A Tri-Partite Arcanist Who Has Forgotten More Than Most Will Ever Know)
Elves of Faerūn
Vol I- The Elves of Faerūn
Vol. III- Spells of the Elves
Vol. VI- Mechanical Compendium |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 00:17:36
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Originally posted by Dagnirion
-Of course not. Risking everything for my people- is that not an extremely virtuous and heroic character trait?
It is! |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
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Pandora
Learned Scribe
Germany
305 Posts |
Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 07:02:49
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Originally posted by Dagnirion
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Originally posted by Pandora
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Originally posted by Alisttair
KARSUS
Shouldnt he be ranked among the villains since he screwed up magic for us?
-Of course not. Risking everything for my people- is that not an extremely virtuous and heroic character trait?
Did he really try to do it "for the people" or just for his own ego and his own power? Ego = evil most of the time ... and they had slaves and such in Netheril if I remember correctly, so it couldnt have been such a grand place after all. |
If you cant say what youre meaning,
you can never mean what youre saying.
- Centauri Minister of Intelligence, Babylon 5 |
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prodigy12
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 15 Oct 2008 : 23:10:01
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| well i have too say my evenly liked heros drizzt do'urden and erevis cale both of which i have a special interest in and have so far read all of there related novels... |
what we are never changes who we are never stops changing |
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 19 Oct 2008 : 10:46:14
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This depends on how one defines "hero". And that's not a simple feat, either. It's not so simple as "nice brave action star guy"...
Best I can tell, the word originated with the Greek term hźros, literally meaning "a guardian or protector", which usually was applied to a demigod after some notably brave accomplishment. This referred to a whole slew of characters. They were not necessarily all that noble. Some could be very petty, very vicious asses, even. Demigod heros were motivated or inspired by either their relationships with their godly relatives, who often did not take keenly to the notion of gods mixing with mortals; or with their human associates, who could be jealous of the extra powers and attention that half-divinity bestowed on a fellow. This does not necessarily make for a goodly chap. It could just as well turn out someone with a chip on his shoulder, desperate to prove himself to the world; or someone who wanted to toy with the gods just because he thought he could; or someone who is so frazzled at the edges that he does something extremely horrific in defiance.
So with that in mind, I guess you could have an evil hero, and it would be just as legitimate of a realization of the term as any goodly hero.
What's more, there also appears to be an unfortunate variety of hero. The legend of Hero and Leander features a priestess of Aphrodite (Hero) who commits suicide when her lover (Leander) dies. This Hero is neither particularly goodly nor evil. She just bravely takes a plunge in her state of grief...
Which reminds me of the flak that the comedian/talk show host Bill Maher received back shortly after 9/11. On one of his last episodes of the broadcast TV program Politically Incorrect, he commented that the terrorists should not be summarily dismissed or ridiculed because of some alleged stupidity or cowardice, but rather, they ought to be feared and respected (of a sort) because of their bravery, courage, and determination to stand up for their cause, no matter what. He was basically saying to "respect your enemy, lest he overwhelm you in your underestimation of his operational competence". Such terrorists could, from a certain point of view, qualify as evil heroes.
So a hero could be either goodly, evil, or tragic, it would seem. Add that diversity of type to your consideration of degrees of greatness.
Personally, I am admittedly rather limited in the scope of my familiarity with the Realms. I am grossly absorbed with the works of RA Salvatore, as he was my portal to the Realms, and he has been prolific, to say the least. At any rate, I hardly feel qualified to select a greatest of anything in the Realms, nor would I want to, if I could. Rather, I try to find the noteworthy characteristics of all of the little gifts that have been crafted for our enjoyment.
And no, I'm not saying that just to be politically correct, or to refrain from stepping on anyone's toes! 
As much as I enjoy reading about our familiar forlorn drow ranger, I would like to point out that RAS himself has stated often that he does not intend for Drizzt to be some larger-than-life superhero figure. His intent is for Drizzt to be seen as just one member of a team, in an open-ended story. That readers have idolized the guy certainly has been profitable for both RAS and WOTC, no doubt, so both have willingly hung their hats on his scimitars, prominently. But RAS says that he himself does not perceive the lavender-eyed one as the greatest of anything... |
"'You don't know my history,' he said dryly."
--Drizzt Do'Urden (The Pirate King, Part 1: Chapter 2)
<"Comprehensive Chronology of R.A. Salvatore Forgotten Realms Works"> |
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creyzi4zb12
Learned Scribe
Philippines
129 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2008 : 14:42:56
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| My favorite hero definition would be Azoun's daughter Tanalasta....coz she wasn't so perfect....plus he beat all those ghazneths to oblivion. |
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creyzi4zb12
Learned Scribe
Philippines
129 Posts |
Posted - 26 Nov 2008 : 14:42:21
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| Oh yeah, it also gave me the shivers when she granted her pain to the ghazneth in order to stop it. ANd she never ended up with the father of her baby. |
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Lord Necro
Acolyte
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Posted - 30 Jul 2009 : 00:54:10
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| I find that Galaeron Nihmedu is the most heroic, its amazing how he deals with his shadow constantly. |
"Time? time has no meaning to the dead..." ~ Necro Lazerus, Male Moon Elven Shade/Lich.
"Life is but a cloak we wear fleetingly.." ~ Etrius Lazerus, Male Moon Elven Shade. |
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Darkstar Daimonizomal
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 30 Jul 2009 : 01:38:27
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The greatest heroes and heroines tend to be roughly the same as my alignment (NE) and favorite class (Wizard) to play in games:
Gromph Baenre,
Alassra Shentrantra Silverhand (the Simbul), and
Szass Tam
~ Darkstar
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Sill Alias
Senior Scribe
Kazakhstan
588 Posts |
Posted - 17 Feb 2010 : 11:50:25
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Most heroic person? Actually I vote for Fiodor. He risks his life for many noble causes: for the honor, justice, goodness and of course love. His judgement is born from his heart, which is not ruled by stereotypes and judges by acts, not appearance. His storyteller soul is the source of it. Good men always die young. |
You can hear many tales from many mouths. The most difficult is to know which of them are not lies. - Sill Alias
"May your harp be unstrung, your dreams die and all your songs be unsung." - curse of the harper, The Code of the Harpers 2 ed.
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Who do you think is the greatest hero/heroine ?
