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Shadovar
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 Posted - 05 Apr 2005 : 02:18:32
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Greetings, here is a short question, "Who you think is the greatest hero/heroine on Faerun?"
My answer is well Drizzt Do' Urden. What's yours?
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We have fostered trust, recruited loyalty, and gathered the faithful. We have trained thousands. Our legions can cover the land, fill the sky and travel through the darkness. We can hunt any and all that would deny our heritage. Now is our time, now is the time of the Dark Reign(Rain) of the Empire of Shadows.
- High Prince Telemont Tanthul, Lord Shadow
In a speech given to the citizens of Shade Enclave
At the celebration of the Shinantra Battle victory when he revealed that he was THE Lord Shadow of legend. |
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Chosen of Bane
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 05 Apr 2005 : 02:47:04
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I guess it's how you define "Hero". If you define a hero as a protagonist of a novel or series than the greatest hero would be the one that I like best. If that's the case I guess I would have to say Thamalon Uskreven II. He is probably my favorite novel character but he is far from a "great hero".
In terms of Acheiving great acts of Heroism. I would have to say it was absolutely King Azoun IV. He beat back the Horde and killed the Devil Dragon.
Now that Azoun IV is toast though...
The whole group from the Rogue Dragons trilogy are pretty big heroes for stopping (next novel I'm sure) the Dragon Rage.
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 05 Apr 2005 : 05:12:54
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| Azoun IV, definitely. Even though I didn't like Death of a Dragon very much, I thought the ending of the King of Cormyr dying was very well-written and dramatic. |
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Rhezarnos
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 05 Apr 2005 : 05:44:40
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Originally posted by Shadovar
Greetings, here is a short question, "Who you think is the greatest hero/heroine on Faerun?"
My answer is well Drizzt Do' Urden. What's yours?
Drizzt, personally, ain't THAT heroic. Just 'cos he's a drow who managed to befriend a few surfacers and whack off devils, evil artifacts, other drows, orcs, and other such things don't make him such a great hero. He sounds like one of my friend's character, minus the constant intraspective thinking and goody-goody two shoes attitude. No offence. |
Playing a winged dwarf with acrophobia is fun. |
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Garen Thal
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 05 Apr 2005 : 06:02:54
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| In my opinion, it's Florin Falconhand. Less priveleged than some, more selfless than most, and interested only in the well-being of those around him. A noble hero if ever there was one, as we're sure to see when the Knights of Myth Drannor novel series begins. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 05 Apr 2005 : 06:47:00
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Originally posted by Garen Thal
In my opinion, it's Florin Falconhand. Less priveleged than some, more selfless than most, and interested only in the well-being of those around him. A noble hero if ever there was one, as we're sure to see when the Knights of Myth Drannor novel series begins.
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Weiser_Cain
Seeker
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Posted - 05 Apr 2005 : 12:11:58
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| Some guy no one's ever heard of that did something heroic despite not being a great warrior or mage whith no chance of reward or reconition, but only because it was the right thing to do. |
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Rhezarnos
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Posted - 05 Apr 2005 : 15:27:23
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Originally posted by Weiser_Cain
Some guy no one's ever heard of that did something heroic despite not being a great warrior or mage whith no chance of reward or reconition, but only because it was the right thing to do.
I totally agree. These are the true heroes, never known or spoken of. |
Playing a winged dwarf with acrophobia is fun. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 05 Apr 2005 : 15:45:54
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| It's been Florin for me since I first seriously read about the Realms. |
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Shadovar
Senior Scribe
785 Posts |
Posted - 06 Apr 2005 : 01:32:51
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Excellent replies! Thanks to all who replied. But one question for all here if you are here reading it, well I agree with Weiser_Cain who quoted:
"Some guy no one's ever heard of that did something heroic despite not being a great warrior or mage whith no chance of reward or reconition, but only because it was the right thing to do."
True, but the question I would like to ask which I hope would not be too offensive:
If the hero is an unknown person, yet he/she utilizes questionable ways to do his/her heroic task- I mean others consider the methods used as evil ways such as use of say shadow magic or dark magic or dark combat skills- so will you consider him/her a hero especially if she/he is a follower of a dark god/goddess such as Shar and yet this person did a heroic act. Answers are welcome. (reply freely based on what is your opinion. |
We have fostered trust, recruited loyalty, and gathered the faithful. We have trained thousands. Our legions can cover the land, fill the sky and travel through the darkness. We can hunt any and all that would deny our heritage. Now is our time, now is the time of the Dark Reign(Rain) of the Empire of Shadows.
- High Prince Telemont Tanthul, Lord Shadow
In a speech given to the citizens of Shade Enclave
At the celebration of the Shinantra Battle victory when he revealed that he was THE Lord Shadow of legend. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 06 Apr 2005 : 03:33:54
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Originally posted by Shadovar
True, but the question I would like to ask which I hope would not be too offensive:
If the hero is an unknown person, yet he/she utilizes questionable ways to do his/her heroic task- I mean others consider the methods used as evil ways such as use of say shadow magic or dark magic or dark combat skills- so will you consider him/her a hero especially if she/he is a follower of a dark god/goddess such as Shar and yet this person did a heroic act. Answers are welcome. (reply freely based on what is your opinion.
It would depend on why the person committed the heroic task... Doing it because it furthered the cause of evil would not count, nor would doing it under duress -- like Hercules and his Twelve Tasks.
But if this person embraced evil as a way to do good (a la Spawn), then I suppose his acts, assuming he wasn't evil in executing them, could be considered heroic. |
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Weiser_Cain
Seeker
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Posted - 06 Apr 2005 : 05:00:00
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| That would make that person an anti-hero. |
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Shadovar
Senior Scribe
785 Posts |
Posted - 06 Apr 2005 : 12:46:16
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| Erm, excuse me, in what way will it make the hero a anti-hero? |
We have fostered trust, recruited loyalty, and gathered the faithful. We have trained thousands. Our legions can cover the land, fill the sky and travel through the darkness. We can hunt any and all that would deny our heritage. Now is our time, now is the time of the Dark Reign(Rain) of the Empire of Shadows.
- High Prince Telemont Tanthul, Lord Shadow
In a speech given to the citizens of Shade Enclave
At the celebration of the Shinantra Battle victory when he revealed that he was THE Lord Shadow of legend. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 13 Apr 2005 : 03:11:12
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Originally posted by Shadovar
Erm, excuse me, in what way will it make the hero a anti-hero?
An antihero, as the term is usually used, is someone who occupies the "hero's role" in a novel (what we'd usually call the protagonist) but doesn't have the classic hero's qualities. For instance, he's weak where most heroes are strong, incompetent where most heroes are wise, evil where most heroes are good, self-defeating vs. self-confident, etc. So a hero who has unconventional defining characteristics is a good candidate for the label of antihero.
The antihero is largely an invention of Romantic literature, which gained great popularity and prominence in the Modernist period.
For good examples of anti-heroes in the Realms, look to Pharaun, Quenthel, etc, from the War of the Spider Queen series, Entreri and Jarlaxle from RAS, and, to an extent, Erevis Cale from PSK's work.
For examples outside the Realms, Tyrrion Lannister from Martin, Elric from Moorcock, and, as noted, Spawn.
Hope that helps clarify.
Cheers
P.S. And the greatest hero? Hmm. That's a good question. |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1120 Posts |
Posted - 13 Apr 2005 : 13:16:09
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| My vote goes to Khelbe Arumsun and Laeral. |
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Shadovar
Senior Scribe
785 Posts |
Posted - 13 Apr 2005 : 13:20:12
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| Greetings to you, Chosen of Moradin. It is intersting that you had well posted a very interesting reply, but can I inquire the reason for khelben and laeral being among the greatest heroes? I would glady appreciate your reply. Thanks for posting a very interesting reply anyway. |
We have fostered trust, recruited loyalty, and gathered the faithful. We have trained thousands. Our legions can cover the land, fill the sky and travel through the darkness. We can hunt any and all that would deny our heritage. Now is our time, now is the time of the Dark Reign(Rain) of the Empire of Shadows.
- High Prince Telemont Tanthul, Lord Shadow
In a speech given to the citizens of Shade Enclave
At the celebration of the Shinantra Battle victory when he revealed that he was THE Lord Shadow of legend. |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
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Posted - 13 Apr 2005 : 16:20:18
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Hello, Shadovar.
I choose Khelben and Laeral because they form a excelent "group".
Khelben, like Steven Schend say in another topic, have a "Batman style", he do the right thing, he is meticulous, ruthless and dedicated to mantain Waterdeep safe. Their actions was decisive in the battles in Myth Drannor, he found the Harpers, he forged the equipments of the Lords of Waterdeep, he was the mentor of Ahglairon, he was a good Waterdhavian secret lord, he found the Moonstars... and he is moving his pieces in this exact moment, for the safe of the Realms...
And Laeral is the perfect match for him. She is lovely, kind, and a extremely competent and inteligent wizard.
I´m very fond of them, since I buy the City of Splendors boxed set. So, that´s the motive for my choice. |
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Shadovar
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 15 Apr 2005 : 05:55:10
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| Greetings, Chosen Of Moradin. Thank you for the reply. I now understand why laeral and khelben are the greatest heroes. |
We have fostered trust, recruited loyalty, and gathered the faithful. We have trained thousands. Our legions can cover the land, fill the sky and travel through the darkness. We can hunt any and all that would deny our heritage. Now is our time, now is the time of the Dark Reign(Rain) of the Empire of Shadows.
- High Prince Telemont Tanthul, Lord Shadow
In a speech given to the citizens of Shade Enclave
At the celebration of the Shinantra Battle victory when he revealed that he was THE Lord Shadow of legend. |
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Thelonius
Senior Scribe
Spain
730 Posts |
Posted - 16 Apr 2005 : 09:34:37
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MMMM.... A great question, with many views, but if i have to choose one of them I would choose Princess Tanalasta. 
She isn't a great warrior, she isn't a great sorceress, she's only a woman, who has passed terrible suffering and that faces the terrible fights against Ghazneths to protect the reign, her sister and her father. Her last fight against Boldovar the Mad, is simply unforgetable, she fights and dies, against overwhelming powers, where a legion of warriors and a powerful wizard (Vangey) are unable to success she does. That makes someone a hero, no power, no might, only the believe of doing something with courage no fear. |
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Defender
Acolyte
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Posted - 16 Apr 2005 : 11:55:56
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| I place my bets on Galeron Nihmedu as the greatest hero. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 16 Apr 2005 : 16:31:04
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Originally posted by Thelonius Andrass
MMMM.... A great question, with many views, but if i have to choose one of them I would choose Princess Tanalasta.
She isn't a great warrior, she isn't a great sorceress, she's only a woman, who has passed terrible suffering and that faces the terrible fights against Ghazneths to protect the reign, her sister and her father. Her last fight against Boldovar the Mad, is simply unforgetable, she fights and dies, against overwhelming powers, where a legion of warriors and a powerful wizard (Vangey) are unable to success she does. That makes someone a hero, no power, no might, only the believe of doing something with courage no fear.
And don't forget to add.....while giving birth to the future King. I love the last thing the fighter/cleric/paladin says to her before her eyes close a final time. |
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Thelonius
Senior Scribe
Spain
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Posted - 16 Apr 2005 : 16:33:19
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| Yes, i forgot about the child. I repeat, that is heroism. ehmmm... was that an spoiler? |
"If you are to truly understand, then you will need the contrast, not adherence to a single ideal." - Kreia
"I THINK I JUST HAD ANOTHER NEAR-RINCEWIND EXPERIENCE"- Discworld's Death frustrated after Rincewind scapes his grasp... again.
"I am death, come for thee" - Nimbul, from Baldur's Gate I just before being badly spanked
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Weiser_Cain
Seeker
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Posted - 21 Apr 2005 : 12:46:54
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| Wandering around for hours only to be killed by a random Daedra on the side of the road is no fun. And it's not FR. - Weiser_Cain |
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 02 May 2005 : 20:28:30
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Originally posted by Xysma
I think Adon of Sune (and later Mystra) is one of the greatest heroes of Faerun is also one of the least recognized, as well as one of the most tragic. He played as large a role in the end of the ToT as Kelemvor, Midnight, and Cyric, but his overall reward was insanity, despair and death (thanks to Cyric) rather than godhood.
Mayhaps I'm having a brainfart here... When did he die? |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 02 May 2005 : 20:44:20
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Mayhaps I'm having a brainfart here... When did he die?
In one of the other 2 books after the ToT trilogy. Cyric drove him insane and Adon turned his back on Mystra so it made him one of the False and or Faithless. I can't recall which because I hate those 2 concepts. :) |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 02 May 2005 : 23:32:36
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Originally posted by kuje31
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Mayhaps I'm having a brainfart here... When did he die?
In one of the other 2 books after the ToT trilogy. Cyric drove him insane and Adon turned his back on Mystra so it made him one of the False and or Faithless. I can't recall which because I hate those 2 concepts. :)
Oh, yeah, now I remember that.
Cyric can be an evil git, sometimes. |
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Shadovar
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 03 May 2005 : 11:40:07
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| True, Cyric can be a deceiving and cunning god, no doubt called the Prince of Lies. Well, does anyone here agree that Cyric may have no fear of Ao, the Overgod? Does this make him some sort of hero who fights or challenges the authority of Ao? *chuckles* |
We have fostered trust, recruited loyalty, and gathered the faithful. We have trained thousands. Our legions can cover the land, fill the sky and travel through the darkness. We can hunt any and all that would deny our heritage. Now is our time, now is the time of the Dark Reign(Rain) of the Empire of Shadows.
- High Prince Telemont Tanthul, Lord Shadow
In a speech given to the citizens of Shade Enclave
At the celebration of the Shinantra Battle victory when he revealed that he was THE Lord Shadow of legend. |
Edited by - Shadovar on 03 May 2005 11:42:12 |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 03 May 2005 : 17:44:44
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Originally posted by Shadovar
True, Cyric can be a deceiving and cunning god, no doubt called the Prince of Lies. Well, does anyone here agree that Cyric may have no fear of Ao, the Overgod? Does this make him some sort of hero who fights or challenges the authority of Ao? *chuckles*
It makes him a fool, I think. Challenging someone who can negate your entire existance with a flick of his hand is stupid, especially if its over power. |
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Shadovar
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 04 May 2005 : 00:51:44
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| I suspect Cyric knows that but he will no doubt plot ways to challenge Ao through subtle, devious ways. |
We have fostered trust, recruited loyalty, and gathered the faithful. We have trained thousands. Our legions can cover the land, fill the sky and travel through the darkness. We can hunt any and all that would deny our heritage. Now is our time, now is the time of the Dark Reign(Rain) of the Empire of Shadows.
- High Prince Telemont Tanthul, Lord Shadow
In a speech given to the citizens of Shade Enclave
At the celebration of the Shinantra Battle victory when he revealed that he was THE Lord Shadow of legend. |
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore
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Who do you think is the greatest hero/heroine ?
