quote:

---

Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart

quote:

---

Originally posted by dennis


THO,

I understand that the world changes and so does the powers and states of the characters. For every change that happens, a character is affected either minutely or considerably, thereby making him/he powerful at one second, and least at another...That notion is rather APPARENT. The point of my question, as I deemed it was clear when I posted it, is just to know ----if possible---- who really IS the most powerful in Toril ALL THINGS CONSIDERED (THE words of Ed and Wizards to the matter, THE present time, THE characters' abilities to fashion spells of great power (and I do not care whether they use their might to blast each or to increase their body odor to suffocate each other to death =), THE changes brought by SP and THE individual struggles of the prominent characters and what-have-you). And let us exclude the deities [Really, I scarcely care about them. They're characters too, I know, but let's put the divinity aside].

---

Right now, right here, in this very time and space. I AM THE MOST POWERFUL!!





*zap*

owie

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by dennis


THO,

I understand that the world changes and so does the powers and states of the characters. For every change that happens, a character is affected either minutely or considerably, thereby making him/he powerful at one second, and least at another...That notion is rather APPARENT. The point of my question, as I deemed it was clear when I posted it, is just to know ----if possible---- who really IS the most powerful in Toril ALL THINGS CONSIDERED (THE words of Ed and Wizards to the matter, THE present time, THE characters' abilities to fashion spells of great power (and I do not care whether they use their might to blast each or to increase their body odor to suffocate each other to death =), THE changes brought by SP and THE individual struggles of the prominent characters and what-have-you). And let us exclude the deities [Really, I scarcely care about them. They're characters too, I know, but let's put the divinity aside].

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by dennis

quote:

---

Originally posted by Menelvagor

They're not the only option, actually... we son't know what happened to some of the Seven (Dove, Laeral and Storm) and Alvaerele Tasundrym (The Silent Chosen) amy also exist soemwhere. And who says the new Mystra has to be female? What if Elminster and Alasssra become joint deities of magic, a new Mystra and a new, (equal to Mystra) more powerful Azuth?
And if we think of it, Elminster has had more time as a Chosen of Mystra, even if less magical power and knowledge.
In terms of raw magical power, though, I have to agree. The Srinshee is the most viable candidate.

---

Hmm, I do not like El to ascend to godhood, because that would rob him of any time to DIRECTLY address Faerunian matters. I like him the way he is now. And I doubt Ed can use him to further advantage if he becomes a god. As with the Srinshee or the Simbul, I must say they are the best candidates to replace Mystra. And who knows, much of this speculation will be answered in El Must Die!...I even plan to fly to our bookstore later to grab a copy of Circle of Skulls, primarily because it includes the first few chaps of EL Must Die!

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by The Hooded One

And behold, a reply from Ed:

quote:

---

Originally posted by Menelvagor

quote:

---

Originally posted by The Hooded One
<snip> However, dennis, when Ed speaks of the power of the Srinshee, he's hinting at something. Remember that none of the Chosen are "just" mortal, at least before the Spellplague (so the timing changes the "who's the most powerful?" answer, too).
If I were you, I'd jaunt on over to his thread and ask him. NDAs will probably prevent him giving you a direct answer about the Srinshee's precise powers, but he can certainly tell you why he says anything at all about character powers, and how he shapes what he does say.

---

<snip>
Ed, <snip> what are you hinting at when you speak of The Srinshee's power?

---

Hi, Menelvagor. <snip>
And as for the Srinshee, I can't tell you what I'm hinting at. Other than to remind you of the hints. ;} NDAs, you know.

So saith Ed. Tireless hint-meister of the Realms...
love,
THO

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by Kuje 22 Dec 2005


Ed,

I was pondering the Chosen of Mystra and some of your past replies about Mystra, and her power, and her investing her power in mortals. This led me to ponder Mystryl, who seemed even more powerful then Mystra and Midnight/Mystra.

So my pondering led to me this thought: Did Mystryl have any Chosen like Mystra and Midnight/Mystra does? If so, are any of them still "alive?" Or did they all die when she "died?" If there is anything else that you might want to add to this pondering of mine then it's more then welcome.

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by The Hooded One 22 Dec 2005


Oooh, Kuje, dear: you tread into darkly perilous ground, approaching (gasp) a secret of the Realms that has been sitting in plain sight for lo these many years, just waiting for a brilliant scribe to pounce upon.
Heh-heh. Which is a grand way of saying Ed won't answer you directly. You'll have to wait (for some time) for a rather more public answer.
Heh heh heh.
love,
THO

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by Jakk

quote:

---

Originally posted by The Sage

quote:

---

Originally posted by createvmind

Which leads to wonder if any of Mystryl's Chosen still live pre-spellplague?

---

The Lady Hooded One, ever the mistress of mysteries, once told us re: the fate of some of Mystryl's Chosen:-
" ... you tread into darkly perilous ground, approaching (gasp) a secret of the Realms that has been sitting in plain sight for lo these many years, just waiting for a brilliant scribe to pounce upon.
Heh-heh. Which is a grand way of saying Ed won't answer you directly. You'll have to wait (for some time) for a rather more public answer.
Heh heh heh.
love,
THO"

---

This post immediately grabbed my attention. Upon reading this for the third time, I was struck by a possibility... or three. (1) Halaster (we know what happened to Sammaster, and now that I see the names in print so close together, I'm struck by their similarity, but that's another matter...) -- maybe, as one of Mystryl's Chosen, his madness was induced by the death of his goddess in the Year of Sundered Webs. (2) Larloch -- he's just as crazy as Halaster, but in different ways. (3) Ioulaum - you'd have to be crazy to merge yourself with an illithid elder brain, but this one's wide open.

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by The Hooded One

Heh. Heh. Heh. NDAs are frustrating things from the inside, too. As it happens, I know far more than I can tell.
As for Ed, he knows LIBRARIES full of lore he can't tell. Imagine HIS frustration.
I wonder if he'll be able to cajole a loosening of NDAs at GenCon this year, to let slip a few hints and whispers...
love,
THO

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by Jakk
Re: THO's response: I'll take the staccato chuckle to indicate confirmation on three counts, thank you. No more need be said (or, likely, can be at this point... hopefully this is not a permanent state, however).
Edit: I share your hope for a loosening of NDAs... particularly around the Cormyr Lineage and, now, this great secret sitting in plain sight... I *do* wish I had my full lore library accessible to me at this moment...
Can Ed say approximately how *much* time we'll have to wait? Or is this dependent on publisher plans unconfirmed (or even unmade) at this point?

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by The Hooded One

Jakk,
Yes, I believe you've interpreted my chuckles correctly.
And the NDA loosening depends on plans not yet finalized, and convincing arguments not yet put.
soft warm love,
THO

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by Nicolai Withander

And in all of this... what does that make the Srinshee?? She is almost 10.000 years old ( I believe ) and might be Chosen of the Seldarine or Mystryl.

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by Nicolai Withander

See, this is why our realm is SOO cool! All this lore and legend makes me wanna know it all!

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by The Sage

quote:

---

Originally posted by Nicolai Withander

And in all of this... what does that make the Srinshee?? She is almost 10.000 years old ( I believe ) and might be Chosen of the Seldarine or Mystryl.

---

While it doesn't fully "explain" the Srinshee, Ed's notes about her in The Annotated Elminster really do help to conceptualise just what she... ... is, in terms of the Realmslore.

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by dennis

quote:

---

Originally posted by The Sage

quote:

---

Originally posted by Nicolai Withander

And in all of this... what does that make the Srinshee?? She is almost 10.000 years old ( I believe ) and might be Chosen of the Seldarine or Mystryl.

---

While it doesn't fully "explain" the Srinshee, Ed's notes about her in The Annotated Elminster really do help to conceptualise just what she... ... is, in terms of the Realmslore.

---

Now this partly makes me regret that I did not buy it. I already have all the El books, but not that...And now that I want to buy it, our bookstores no longer have copies...And I cannot trust amazon.com anymore...

Um, Sage, will you be kind enough to tell me what exactly did Ed mention about the Srinshee?

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by The Sage

quote:

---

Originally posted by Nicolai Withander

And in all of this... what does that make the Srinshee?? She is almost 10.000 years old ( I believe ) and might be Chosen of the Seldarine or Mystryl.

---

While it doesn't fully "explain" the Srinshee, Ed's notes about her in The Annotated Elminster really do help to conceptualise just what she... ... is, in terms of the Realmslore.

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by Nicolai Withander

quote:

---

Originally posted by The Sage

quote:

---

Originally posted by Zireael

That's nice. Good thing I found it.
But one of the sources says she's 46th level! Can anyone confirm it?

---

Hmmm. I seem to recall Ed provided some brief 'unofficial' 3e stats/rules advice for the Srinshee in the "Realmslore from Elminster in Myth Drannor" of The Annotated Elminster. Those stats declare the Srinshee as a 54th level character [Wizard29/Sorcerer16/Archmage9].

---

Are you telling me that she is higher lvl than Larloch??? Thats preette vild!

Also the whriteup of her is nice, but how can you raise the ability score first 5 with a tome and then 2 moere with Wish

I thought that one could only raise it 5 in total inherent bonus, but it seemes she has gained +7 inherent bonus??

---