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Menelvagor
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| I hold to my theory: She's obviously a demi-god or more, capable of facing down in magical power anyone but Mystra herself. In the wake of the Spellplague, she can probably create a 'New Weave' all for herself and ascend to Mystra's position, if she just gets soem more power... That's what happens in ELminster Must Die. The Srinshee needs to kill ELminster in order to gain the last remnants of Mystra's power and her secrets in order ot become the new Mystra! |
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Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 02 May 2010 : 01:27:58
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Heh. She's even more than the quite official stats Ed gave in THE ANNOTATED ELMINSTER. But I dare not say more. 
love,
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Menelvagor
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Israel
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Posted - 02 May 2010 : 06:37:56
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"Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.
"Yea, though he live a thousand years twice, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?" - Ecclesiastes VI, 6.
"There are no stupid questions just a bunch of inquisitive idiots."
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Jakk
Great Reader
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Posted - 02 May 2010 : 07:08:37
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
Heh. She's even more than the quite official stats Ed gave in THE ANNOTATED ELMINSTER. But I dare not say more.
love,
THO
 And that's all we get? Can you say anything about when these particular NDAs will be rendered obsolete by publication? Please? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Brimstone
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Posted - 02 May 2010 : 07:36:08
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 02 May 2010 : 10:48:37
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Originally posted by The Sage
Hmmm. I seem to recall Ed provided some brief 'unofficial' 3e stats/rules advice for the Srinshee in the "Realmslore from Elminster in Myth Drannor" of The Annotated Elminster. Those stats declare the Srinshee as a 54th level character [Wizard29/Sorcerer16/Archmage9].
Picks up jaw from the floor.
Wow, that's 3 ed? I don't think that's possible.... Beats Larloch to a bloody pulp... I'll have to think on her, I don't like CR 54 when my friends cringe at CR 26... in terms of 'way too much power'. |
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Nicolai Withander
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 02 May 2010 : 11:46:42
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| One thing I just dont understand is why all this info is just getting out now. We have all thought Larloch was the badest spell hurler in Fearūn, and highest lvl. I did adleast, and now we find out that she is lvl 54+??? Hmm wonder why that is!! |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 02 May 2010 : 13:37:33
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Originally posted by Nicolai Withander
One thing I just dont understand is why all this info is just getting out now. We have all thought Larloch was the badest spell hurler in Fearūn, and highest lvl. I did adleast, and now we find out that she is lvl 54+??? Hmm wonder why that is!!
Well, this really isn't *new* info. It's been available for as long as The Annotated Elminster has been published [Nov. '07].
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Nicolai Withander
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 02 May 2010 : 13:49:02
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Yeah... its true. Its what we might call old news. It just seems af if ppls dind't realize it. It was news to me that she was THAT powerful! I have always known that she was one of the most powerful elves to ever walked the realms, but being more or less the most powerful mortal to have lived... well that was news to me.
Perhaps it should have been obvious when she was unharmed efter being blasted by an elven high mage during "Elminster in Cormanthor" But I just thought that was because of a casting of "The Srinshee's Spellshift"
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Jakk
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Posted - 03 May 2010 : 05:26:19
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Who says she's mortal? She's a Chosen of Mystra, probably also of the Seldarine (I can't recall that one specifically atm), and used Ar'Cor'Kerym to rebuild the Rule Tower instantly before disappearing for 700 years. That sounds like pushing the boundaries of demi-deity status to me... 
Edit: I just want to know more about her. Hopefully those NDAs are being rendered obsolete by publication in the near future...  |
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Brimstone
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Posted - 03 May 2010 : 07:11:50
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Dennis
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Posted - 03 May 2010 : 07:21:10
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Originally posted by Brimstone
Is she going to be in Elminster Must Die?
Probably. With all the deranged, megalomaniac, and vindictive enemies he's amassed all these years who are much determined to end his life, and with his powers "somehow" decreased due to the SP, well he does need a powerful ally.
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Nicolai Withander
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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Posted - 06 May 2010 : 21:45:12
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Jakk
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Posted - 07 May 2010 : 04:58:03
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I have a suspicion, thanks to a recent exchange in Ed's scroll... mind you, this is all contingent on 4E canon, which I freely admit to avoiding whenever possible, largely because my established campaign timeline makes it impossible to adhere to without massive retcon.
Anyway... thoughts on the Srinshee and a possible restoration of Mystra came to an interesting conjunction: could the Srinshee become the new Mystra in the event of said deity returning to the Realms without a timeline reboot? Given Ed's specs for her, she's clearly the most likely candidate; the only other real possibility is the Simbul, and I don't think she'd want the job.
Just a thought that occurred to me earlier today; see recent posts in Ed's scroll for more. |
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Elfinblade
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Posted - 07 May 2010 : 10:47:43
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Originally posted by Jakk
I have a suspicion, thanks to a recent exchange in Ed's scroll... mind you, this is all contingent on 4E canon, which I freely admit to avoiding whenever possible, largely because my established campaign timeline makes it impossible to adhere to without massive retcon.
Anyway... thoughts on the Srinshee and a possible restoration of Mystra came to an interesting conjunction: could the Srinshee become the new Mystra in the event of said deity returning to the Realms without a timeline reboot? Given Ed's specs for her, she's clearly the most likely candidate; the only other real possibility is the Simbul, and I don't think she'd want the job.
Just a thought that occurred to me earlier today; see recent posts in Ed's scroll for more.
Sounds plausible enough, and i too believe she would be the most likely candidate. I'll freely admit i was baffled and somewhat distraught when the whole timeline shift came about, but don't fret i say! Intruiging stuff is on the horizon in the Realms! |
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Menelvagor
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 07 May 2010 : 14:35:28
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They're not the only option, actually... we son't know what happened to some of the Seven (Dove, Laeral and Storm) and Alvaerele Tasundrym (The Silent Chosen) amy also exist soemwhere. And who says the new Mystra has to be female? What if Elminster and Alasssra become joint deities of magic, a new Mystra and a new, (equal to Mystra) more powerful Azuth?
And if we think of it, Elminster has had more time as a Chosen of Mystra, even if less magical power and knowledge.
In terms of raw magical power, though, I have to agree. The Srinshee is the most viable candidate. |
"Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.
"Yea, though he live a thousand years twice, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?" - Ecclesiastes VI, 6.
"There are no stupid questions just a bunch of inquisitive idiots."
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Jakk
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 May 2010 : 21:10:42
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Originally posted by Menelvagor
They're not the only option, actually... we son't know what happened to some of the Seven (Dove, Laeral and Storm) and Alvaerele Tasundrym (The Silent Chosen) amy also exist soemwhere. And who says the new Mystra has to be female? What if Elminster and Alasssra become joint deities of magic, a new Mystra and a new, (equal to Mystra) more powerful Azuth?
And if we think of it, Elminster has had more time as a Chosen of Mystra, even if less magical power and knowledge.
In terms of raw magical power, though, I have to agree. The Srinshee is the most viable candidate.
Heh... Elminster and Alassra ascending to replace Azuth and Mystra was my initial thought shortly after learning of the demise of Mystra in 4E. I like this idea too. |
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Menelvagor
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 08 May 2010 : 19:57:48
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"Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.
"Yea, though he live a thousand years twice, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?" - Ecclesiastes VI, 6.
"There are no stupid questions just a bunch of inquisitive idiots."
"Let's not call it 'hijacking'. Let's call it 'Thread Drift'." |
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Cleric Generic
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Nicolai Withander
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 08 May 2010 : 21:02:41
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well giving some divinity to the chosen is kind of like have phylactories for mystra. Or Hoacruxes, if thinking harry potter. So why should it not be one of them, or perhaps only the divinity they harbor inside them self that could be the new Mystra. Thats basicly why they became chosen in the first place!!!
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Dennis
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Posted - 09 May 2010 : 23:55:20
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Originally posted by Menelvagor
They're not the only option, actually... we son't know what happened to some of the Seven (Dove, Laeral and Storm) and Alvaerele Tasundrym (The Silent Chosen) amy also exist soemwhere. And who says the new Mystra has to be female? What if Elminster and Alasssra become joint deities of magic, a new Mystra and a new, (equal to Mystra) more powerful Azuth?
And if we think of it, Elminster has had more time as a Chosen of Mystra, even if less magical power and knowledge.
In terms of raw magical power, though, I have to agree. The Srinshee is the most viable candidate.
Hmm, I do not like El to ascend to godhood, because that would rob him of any time to DIRECTLY address Faerunian matters. I like him the way he is now. And I doubt Ed can use him to further advantage if he becomes a god. As with the Srinshee or the Simbul, I must say they are the best candidates to replace Mystra. And who knows, much of this speculation will be answered in El Must Die!...I even plan to fly to our bookstore later to grab a copy of Circle of Skulls, primarily because it includes the first few chaps of EL Must Die!
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Cleric Generic
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Posted - 10 May 2010 : 01:04:05
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Originally posted by Nicolai Withander
well giving some divinity to the chosen is kind of like have phylactories for mystra. Or Hoacruxes, if thinking harry potter. So why should it not be one of them, or perhaps only the divinity they harbor inside them self that could be the new Mystra. Thats basicly why they became chosen in the first place!!!
Dont think wotc is gonna make it happen though
Indeed, indeed. Although at this point, what WotC does or does not make happen isn't really worth giving much thought to; we've got all the RPG source-books we're going to get (for this edition) and the DDI output isn't likely to do more than fill in the map a bit and present the odd mini-adventure (although a Scales of War type adventure path set in the realms would be cool). So if it doesn't get done in a novel it probably will remain un-addressed in any official capacity, and the bulldozers were sent in in the first place to make way for your own material.
Anyway, the model I as looking to follow with my Mighty Morphing Seven Sisters Combine theory is that of Angharradh (sp?!), the three-fold elven goddess. At once, she is Angharradh and also three other separate divinities representing the whole of the former. the Sisters could remain corporeal (if not conventionally mortal) and generally as they were, but their collective divine magicyness constitutes Mystra mk.III or whatever. This could be an arrangement propped up by the other gods who inherited bits of Mystra when she went bang.
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Nicolai Withander
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Posted - 10 May 2010 : 21:27:51
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It could indeed, and it would be ultimatively fitting for them. But then again... Bah... I dont realy know what to say. I was so sad to lean about the SP almost two years ago, and still it makes me sad to think of some of the things that happened, but as long as I play in good old fearun in the year of our lady 1393 and everything if fine... or... well Mystra still lives sooooo.... for me its still pretty good.
Im gonna stop writing now I think, cause this post was like meaningless words.
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Dennis
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Posted - 12 May 2010 : 00:16:50
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I just notice that some authors tag certain characters as "the most powerful wizard/arcanist in Faerun." Richard said so of Gromph in Dissolution. Troy of Telamont in Return of the Archwizards, and I think Paul, too, in Twilight War. If I remember it right, Richard, in HL trilogy, also called Szass Tam as the most (or was it ONE of the most?) talented/powerful spellcaster in Toril. And as mentioned several posts, Ed said of the Srinshee.
So who is what? Must we simply believe Ed since he's the creator of the realms? Is there really an established fact (per canon or whatever) that points out who really is the greatest/most powerful wizard/arcanist/spellcaster in Faerun, either living or, as of the case of liches and other undead, existing? |
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 12 May 2010 : 02:43:26
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Well, the short answer is: Yes, we DO believe Ed. Because the rule is that anything Ed says IS canon, unless or until contradicted in print by an official Realms product (NOT a licensed product like a computer game, BTW).
However, with that said, consider the following:
1. Discount anything said in a catalogue, or on the covers of a book, or in an advertisement. That's not the author talking, but a marketing writer (and most marketing writers are FAR from authorities on what they're writing about [do you believe every car ad that says their particular car is the best?]).
2. Look at EXACTLY who's saying the Srinshee or any other character is the "shiniest" or "most purple" or whatever. Is it a character in the book? (Which makes it an opinion.) Is it the narrator? Is it the author, speaking or writing OUTSIDE the book (i.e. on a website or in an interview?) Or is it "widely accepted opinion, in the Realms"? Consider real-world political figures, and how opinions of them are colored by the political beliefs of whoever is holding the opinion, AND over time (as opinions change, or the general public learns more, or...)
3. What exactly is the claim being made (fastest, most learned, whatever) and in what context ("best ever" is an obviously useless judgment, because unless the world ends right now, we haven't had "ever" yet, and can never have )? Some people have been VERY careful how they word what they say. Case in point: look at what Ed has ACTUALLY SAID about the Srinshee, as opposed to what others, paraphrasing his words, have "said he said." Ed seldom speaks in clear superlatives. He might say "the Srinshee is more powerful than character X" but he's very unlikely to say ANYONE is the most powerful (unless he qualifies it with "in my opinion" or "as thus far revealed" or something of the sort) . . . because for one thing, Ed's always planning several steps ahead of the published Realms, and for another thing, Ed never trashes X to make Y look better (unlike some other pundits, critics, designers and writers).
. . . And no, there is no established fact in canon, or measure, of who's the strongest or whose judgment is supreme. Even the gods disagree, all the time, and mortals can't know the truths about what they're disputing, or even the true natures (let alone powers) of the gods, and therefore a ranking. You may believe that, say, Bane is a more powerful deity than dead-and-vanished Bhaal . . . but as a mortal, you can never be certain you are correct in that ranking. You simply CAN'T know enough.
And that applies to rankings of mortals, too. No one can know who's the most powerful spellcaster, even if the "right" answer doesn't change every few seconds (and it probably does). We don't know the full capabilities of any of these characters, what daring or desperate innovations they'll come up with in battle, what other circumstances will affect their performance (I was dizzy, he was half asleep, I haven't eaten for days, they attacked out of the sun), and "most powerful" AT WHAT, anyway (creating new magic? blasting each other down, toe to toe? body odor? doing things that will be remembered thousands of years after they're gone?)
. . . which is why such rankings tend to be useless, or have limited utility as "blurred and very rough yardsticks" at best.
However, dennis, when Ed speaks of the power of the Srinshee, he's hinting at something. Remember that none of the Chosen are "just" mortal, at least before the Spellplague (so the timing changes the "who's the most powerful?" answer, too).
If I were you, I'd jaunt on over to his thread and ask him. NDAs will probably prevent him giving you a direct answer about the Srinshee's precise powers, but he can certainly tell you why he says anything at all about character powers, and how he shapes what he does say.
Unless, of course, someone even more powerful prevents him. 
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Posted - 12 May 2010 : 03:41:01
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Originally posted by dennis
I just notice that some authors tag certain characters as "the most powerful wizard/arcanist in Faerun." Richard said so of Gromph in Dissolution. Troy of Telamont in Return of the Archwizards, and I think Paul, too, in Twilight War. If I remember it right, Richard, in HL trilogy, also called Szass Tam as the most (or was it ONE of the most?) talented/powerful spellcaster in Toril. And as mentioned several posts, Ed said of the Srinshee.
So who is what? Must we simply believe Ed since he's the creator of the realms? Is there really an established fact (per canon or whatever) that points out who really is the greatest/most powerful wizard/arcanist/spellcaster in Faerun, either living or, as of the case of liches and other undead, existing?
Arguing from a different perspective than that provided by THO, I would suggest that, from an in-world perspective, the answer is basically "no"... even though the universe is made of numbers (yes, I am a Pythagorean IRL; see also the June 2010 issue of Discover magazine), the numbers are directly meaningless to our senses, and this is the way it should be in-game as well. For the most part, the answer to the question "who is the most powerful wizard in Faerun?" is going to be framed by the personal bias and knowledge (or, more likely, lack thereof) of the person answering the question.
As far as stats go, if we're not talking about divinities, I'd have to say that the Srinshee wins hands-down, at least among the characters we know about. Of course, Larloch doesn't have firmly-set stats, and has always been described by Ed as "as powerful as [or slightly more powerful than] the DM needs him to be [to keep the PCs suitably overawed and/or humbled]." 
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However, dennis, when Ed speaks of the power of the Srinshee, he's hinting at something. Remember that none of the Chosen are "just" mortal, at least before the Spellplague (so the timing changes the "who's the most powerful?" answer, too).
If I were you, I'd jaunt on over to his thread and ask him. NDAs will probably prevent him giving you a direct answer about the Srinshee's precise powers, but he can certainly tell you why he says anything at all about character powers, and how he shapes what he does say.
Unless, of course, someone even more powerful prevents him.
love,
THO
Milady, we at Candlekeep are all too familiar with the powers of the NDAo, otherwise known as the Non-Disclosure Archoverdeity, but I'm rather curious as to all the talk lately regarding the Srinshee... and I'm thinking also that there's still something lingering in her, El, and Alassra, as well as Storm (and Dove, if she is also still around)... but I dare not speculate too much; all that does is make me thirst for answers. Thoughts of certain images of Storm conjured by Ed and yourself over the years here make me thirst for other things too, but I digress...
Let's just say I have my theories as to what's around the corner in canon lore, even though it's no longer directly applicable to the Realms my group prefers to game in. Do I like everything that's happened since 1375 DR? No, but I didn't like everything that happened before then either. I'm enjoying my time as a player over the past few years, and rewriting the Spellplague and a few earlier events as well to better suit my evil plans... when I am once again behind the DM screen, my players will know fear... |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 12 May 2010 : 15:59:44
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THO,
I understand that the world changes and so does the powers and states of the characters. For every change that happens, a character is affected either minutely or considerably, thereby making him/he powerful at one second, and least at another...That notion is rather APPARENT. The point of my question, as I deemed it was clear when I posted it, is just to know ----if possible---- who really IS the most powerful in Toril ALL THINGS CONSIDERED (THE words of Ed and Wizards to the matter, THE present time, THE characters' abilities to fashion spells of great power (and I do not care whether they use their might to blast each or to increase their body odor to suffocate each other to death =), THE changes brought by SP and THE individual struggles of the prominent characters and what-have-you). And let us exclude the deities [Really, I scarcely care about them. They're characters too, I know, but let's put the divinity aside].
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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 12 May 2010 : 16:29:43
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Originally posted by dennis
THO,
I understand that the world changes and so does the powers and states of the characters. For every change that happens, a character is affected either minutely or considerably, thereby making him/he powerful at one second, and least at another...That notion is rather APPARENT. The point of my question, as I deemed it was clear when I posted it, is just to know ----if possible---- who really IS the most powerful in Toril ALL THINGS CONSIDERED (THE words of Ed and Wizards to the matter, THE present time, THE characters' abilities to fashion spells of great power (and I do not care whether they use their might to blast each or to increase their body odor to suffocate each other to death =), THE changes brought by SP and THE individual struggles of the prominent characters and what-have-you). And let us exclude the deities [Really, I scarcely care about them. They're characters too, I know, but let's put the divinity aside].
Right now, right here, in this very time and space. I AM THE MOST POWERFUL!!
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