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barry
Acolyte
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 Posted - 28 Mar 2005 : 20:45:58
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Pleas excuse my spelling.
In the last empires book their are no specs on the abilities and level
of the srinshree . Can a wise scribe clear this up for me
Thanks Barry in south Africa
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 28 Mar 2005 : 20:52:52
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| In 2e she is a 30th level wizard and also a high mage. See Cormanthyr: Empire of the Elves and The Fall of Myth Drannor. Ed Greenwood's Elminster in Myth Drannor novel also has a lot of info on her. She also makes a very short, like a paragraph, appearance in Elminster in Hell. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 28 Mar 2005 : 21:00:21
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Originally posted by kuje31
In 2e she is a 30th level wizard and also a high mage. See Cormanthyr: Empire of the Elves
Bah! What does that tome know? They have her as a gold elf in it!  |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 28 Mar 2005 : 21:04:20
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by kuje31
In 2e she is a 30th level wizard and also a high mage. See Cormanthyr: Empire of the Elves
Bah! What does that tome know? They have her as a gold elf in it!
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1073 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2005 : 18:31:54
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| Does anybody know her 3rd edition stats? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2005 : 18:41:20
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Originally posted by khorne
Does anybody know her 3rd edition stats?
I don't believe she's been statted out in 3E. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 03 Apr 2005 : 01:34:45
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I don't believe she's been statted out in 3E.
If she'd just show her ugly moon/gold elven mug again, maybe she'd get a 3.5E write up.  |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 03 Apr 2005 : 19:14:36
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I don't believe she's been statted out in 3E.
If she'd just show her ugly moon/gold elven mug again, maybe she'd get a 3.5E write up.
LOL It's still disputable what her race is! I like the explanation that says she can change her race as she pleases though (or something like that). |
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Mareka
Learned Scribe
Canada
125 Posts |
Posted - 03 Apr 2005 : 20:01:16
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
LOL It's still disputable what her race is! I like the explanation that says she can change her race as she pleases though (or something like that).
Isn't there a High Magic spell that does that? |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 03 Apr 2005 : 20:07:53
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Originally posted by Mareka
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
LOL It's still disputable what her race is! I like the explanation that says she can change her race as she pleases though (or something like that).
Isn't there a High Magic spell that does that?
Perhaps, but not being an expert on High Magic myself, I wouldn't know off the top of my head. :) |
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Sorenna_Melruth
Acolyte
24 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2005 : 00:06:48
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The Srinshee was reborn as a moon elf female as it says in Cormanthor, she was last seen in Ancient Empire's but she has no stats unfortunately.
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2005 : 00:15:56
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Originally posted by Sorenna_Melruth
The Srinshee was reborn as a moon elf female as it says in Cormanthor, she was last seen in Ancient Empire's but she has no stats unfortunately.
Yes, but we've had this discussion and Steven Schend said he messed up when he said she is a gold elf in the Fall of Myth Drannor and so Lost Empires says she is a gold elf as well. |
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Sorenna_Melruth
Acolyte
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Posted - 04 Apr 2005 : 00:30:13
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I'm rather new here, and didn't know of that conversation I was only going from current comments.
^.^ |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2005 : 03:27:47
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
LOL It's still disputable what her race is! I like the explanation that says she can change her race as she pleases though (or something like that).
I can also see it as a point of contention between the various subraces of elves.
Moon Elves: The Srinshee was a member of our subrace.
Sun Elves with a sigh: Foolish moon elves. Tis, but wishful thinking. All reasonable scholars (Gold elves no doubt) assert The Srinshee is a gold elf. |
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Mareka
Learned Scribe
Canada
125 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2005 : 22:29:49
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
LOL It's still disputable what her race is! I like the explanation that says she can change her race as she pleases though (or something like that).
I can also see it as a point of contention between the various subraces of elves.
Moon Elves: The Srinshee was a member of our subrace.
Sun Elves with a sigh: Foolish moon elves. Tis, but wishful thinking. All reasonable scholars (Gold elves no doubt) assert The Srinshee is a gold elf.
I could see the Srinsee confusing the issue of her race to distance herself from racial tensions. She seemed often disgusted with such things. Perhaps she didn't want to be associated with any one race.
Of course, elitism could lead to contention where the intent was quite the opposite. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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5517 Posts |
Posted - 05 Apr 2005 : 01:37:56
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Originally posted by Mareka
I could see the Srinsee confusing the issue of her race to distance herself from racial tensions. She seemed often disgusted with such things. Perhaps she didn't want to be associated with any one race.
It would definitely fit with the feelings she expressed when she was last sighted upon Faerun. |
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elven_songstress
Learned Scribe
126 Posts |
Posted - 06 Apr 2005 : 00:18:44
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Darkhope
Acolyte
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Posted - 06 Apr 2005 : 20:44:16
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Unofficial version of Shrinshee:
With reference her alignment, I have made her LG as in Lost Empires it states that you have to be LG to wield the Rulers Blade.
Lady Oluevaera Estelda, "The Srinshee": Chosen of Mystra: Female, Sun Elf, Wiz28/Elven High Mage 10; CR 42; Medium Humanoid ; HD 38d4+304 (Wizard) ; hp 344; Init +5; Spd 20; AC 33; Base Atk +21 Base Range +24 Full Attack+26/+21 (1d8+6, +4 Adamantine Longsword) or +28/+23 (1d4+8+1d6, +6 Dagger, Adamantine) or +24/+19 (1d6+4, Staff of the Magi); AL LG; SV Fort +35, Ref +32, Will +39; STR 14, DEX 20, CON 26, INT 38, WIS 23, CHA 22.
Base Statistics
STR 14 (unchanged)
DEX 16 (+4, due to Gloves of Dexterity +4)
CON 15 (+1 Level Bonus; +10 Chosen of Mystra Template)
INT 18 (+2 Racial Bonus; +5 Level Bonus; +4, due to Headband of Intellect+4, +5 due to Tomb of Clear Thought+5, +2 due to Wish Spell, +2 Retained from being a Bealnorn)
WIS 17 (+4 due to multiple Wish Spells; +2 Level Bonus)
CHA 17 (+4, due to Tomb of Understanding+4; +1 Level Bonus)
Possessions:
Weapons:
Artifact (Rulers Blade) ArCorKerym (+4 Adamantine Longsword: Holy, Keen with other powers)
+6 Dagger, Adamantine: Shocking Burst, Dancing.
Magic: Headband of Intellect +4; Pearl of Power (9th); Pearl of Power (7th); Tome of Understanding +4 (Used); Tome of Clear Thought +5 (Used); Amulet of the Planes; Bag of Holding (type IV); Bead of Force (8); Belt of Many Pockets; Boots of Teleportation (Teleport 3/day); Bracers of epic armor (+12); Cloak of Elvenkind and Resistance +4; Crystal ball with True Seeing; Elven Mask; Gem of Seeing; Gloves of Dexterity +4; Ioun Stone of Resistance +4; Ioun Stone, Clear [Spindle] (Without Food & Water); Ioun Stone, Dusty Rose [Prism] (+1 AC); Ioun Stone, Iridescent [Spindle] (Without Air); Ioun Stone, Pearly White [Spherical] (Regenerates Five hp per hour); Keoghtom`s Ointment (6 Vials); Orb of Storms; Portable Hole; Robe of the Archmagi; Ring of Spell-Battle; Ring of Improved Wizardry (V/VI); Staff of the Magi (Charges: 28); Rod of Metamagic, Greater Quickened (Quicken Spell 3/day) ; Wand of Antimagic Ray (20) (Charges: 27); Wand of Teleportation Circle (20) (Charges: 26), Attuned Gems- sewn into Srinshees Robes (Finger of Death, Time Stop, Greater Dispel Magic, Chain Lightning, Feather Fall, Plane Shift, Shapechange, Forceage, Power Word-Kill, Power Word-Stun)
Skills: Climb +9, Concentration +38, Craft (Alchemy) +44, Craft (Armorsmithing) +29, Craft (Bookbinding) +26, Craft (Calligraphy) +24, Craft (Gemcutting) +21, Craft (Weaponsmithing) +22, Decipher Script +46, Diplomacy +19, Gather Information +19, Handle Animal +9, Hide +6, Intimidate +20, Knowledge (Arcana) +63, Knowledge (Architecture) +15, Knowledge (Demonology) +20, Knowledge (Dragonkind) +12, Knowledge (Dreams) +12, Knowledge (Geography) +23, Knowledge (History) +30, Knowledge (Local) +24, Knowledge (Monsters) +16, Knowledge (Nature) +23, Knowledge (Nobility and Royalty) +20, Knowledge (Portals & Gates) +22, Knowledge (Religion) +20, Knowledge (The Planes) +44, Listen +16, Move Silently +7, Open Lock +4, Psicraft +15, Ride +8, Search +17, Sleight of Hand +3, Speak Language +9, Spellcraft +55, Spot +16, Tumble +8, Use Magic Device +19.
Feats: Attune Gem, Cooperative Spell, Craft Contingent Spell, Craft Magic Arms and Armor, Craft Staff, Craft Wand, Craft Wondrous Item, Empower Spell, Epic Skill Focus: Knowledge (Arcana), Epic Spellcasting (Arcana), Greater Spell Penetration, Heighten Spell, Improved Heighten Spell, Improved Metamagic, Improved Spell Capacity x5, Intensify Spell, Martial Weapon Proficiency: Longsword, Maximize Spell, Multispell, Polyglot, Quicken Spell, Scribe Scroll, Spell Focus: Evocation, Spell Penetration, Weapon Focus: Dagger, Weapon Focus: Longsword, Weapon Focus: Quarterstaff.
Special Qualities: Elven traits: +2 racial bonus on listen, Search (entitled to a search check when passing within 5 feet of a secret or concealed door), and Spot checks; low-light vision; immune to sleep; +2 racial bonus on a saves against enchantment, proficient with longsword and rapier, proficient with shortbow, longbow, composite longbow, and composite shortbow. Seed affinity x4, Mythal inventionx4
Chosen Immunities: Srinshee is unaffected by attacks that duplicate these effects: Magic Missile, Web, Fireball, Evards Black Tentacles, Feeblemind, Disintegrate, Anti-Magic Ray, Trap the Soul, Time Stop Chosen Spell-Like Abilities: 1/Day Magic Missile, Melfs Acid Arrow, Dispel Magic, Dimension Door, Teleport, Greater Dispel Magic, Plane Shift, Greater Planar Binding, Srinshees Spell Shift Detect Magic (Su): Line of Sight
Enhanced Constitution: The Chosen of Mystra Template adds +10 to Constitution.
Enhanced Intelligence/Wisdom: Srinshee has used multiple wished to increase her Wisdom by+4 and Intelligence by +2.
Silver Fire (Su): See Chapter 2 of the Forgotten Realm Campaign Setting
Epic Spells Per Day: 6
Epic Spells Known: Contingent Resurrection, Epic Mage Armor, Epic Spell Resistance, Let Go of Me, Greater Ruin; The Srinshee is known to have the knowledge of at least three other epic spells but so far these are unknown.
Spells Known: All spells from any publications that the DM deems fit.
Spells Prepared (Wiz 4/8/8/7/7/11/11/7/6/7/3/2/2/2/2 Base Dc24+spell level, Dc28+spell level for evocation spells):
Caster Level: 34th Level
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elven_songstress
Learned Scribe
126 Posts |
Posted - 06 Apr 2005 : 23:15:16
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| Thats a good version of her Darkhope. |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2010 : 11:27:34
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That's nice. Good thing I found it.
But one of the sources says she's 46th level! Can anyone confirm it? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2010 : 13:46:09
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Originally posted by Zireael
That's nice. Good thing I found it.
But one of the sources says she's 46th level! Can anyone confirm it?
Hmmm. I seem to recall Ed provided some brief 'unofficial' 3e stats/rules advice for the Srinshee in the "Realmslore from Elminster in Myth Drannor" of The Annotated Elminster. Those stats declare the Srinshee as a 54th level character [Wizard29/Sorcerer16/Archmage9]. |
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Nicolai Withander
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
1093 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2010 : 15:01:35
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Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Zireael
That's nice. Good thing I found it.
But one of the sources says she's 46th level! Can anyone confirm it?
Hmmm. I seem to recall Ed provided some brief 'unofficial' 3e stats/rules advice for the Srinshee in the "Realmslore from Elminster in Myth Drannor" of The Annotated Elminster. Those stats declare the Srinshee as a 54th level character [Wizard29/Sorcerer16/Archmage9].
Are you telling me that she is higher lvl than Larloch??? Thats preette vild!
Also the whriteup of her is nice, but how can you raise the ability score first 5 with a tome and then 2 moere with Wish
I thought that one could only raise it 5 in total inherent bonus, but it seemes she has gained +7 inherent bonus?? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2010 : 16:03:50
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Originally posted by Nicolai Withander
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Zireael
That's nice. Good thing I found it.
But one of the sources says she's 46th level! Can anyone confirm it?
Hmmm. I seem to recall Ed provided some brief 'unofficial' 3e stats/rules advice for the Srinshee in the "Realmslore from Elminster in Myth Drannor" of The Annotated Elminster. Those stats declare the Srinshee as a 54th level character [Wizard29/Sorcerer16/Archmage9].
Are you telling me that she is higher lvl than Larloch??? Thats preette vild!
Again, from Ed, and quoted from the source referenced above:-
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I want her to be more powerful that Larloch in raw wizardly casting power. Her stats should be staggering in power ...
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2010 : 16:05:25
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quote:
Originally posted by Nicolai Withander
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Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Zireael
That's nice. Good thing I found it.
But one of the sources says she's 46th level! Can anyone confirm it?
Hmmm. I seem to recall Ed provided some brief 'unofficial' 3e stats/rules advice for the Srinshee in the "Realmslore from Elminster in Myth Drannor" of The Annotated Elminster. Those stats declare the Srinshee as a 54th level character [Wizard29/Sorcerer16/Archmage9].
Are you telling me that she is higher lvl than Larloch??? Thats preette vild!
Also the whriteup of her is nice, but how can you raise the ability score first 5 with a tome and then 2 moere with Wish
I thought that one could only raise it 5 in total inherent bonus, but it seemes she has gained +7 inherent bonus??
Having the goddess of magic on your side undoubtedly helps with breaking the rules of some spells.  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2010 : 16:13:13
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Nicolai Withander
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Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Zireael
That's nice. Good thing I found it.
But one of the sources says she's 46th level! Can anyone confirm it?
Hmmm. I seem to recall Ed provided some brief 'unofficial' 3e stats/rules advice for the Srinshee in the "Realmslore from Elminster in Myth Drannor" of The Annotated Elminster. Those stats declare the Srinshee as a 54th level character [Wizard29/Sorcerer16/Archmage9].
Are you telling me that she is higher lvl than Larloch??? Thats preette vild!
Also the whriteup of her is nice, but how can you raise the ability score first 5 with a tome and then 2 moere with Wish
I thought that one could only raise it 5 in total inherent bonus, but it seemes she has gained +7 inherent bonus??
Having the goddess of magic on your side undoubtedly helps with breaking the rules of some spells.
Again, as Ed notes, the Srinshee's Chosen of Mystra status undoubtedly gives her an considerable advantage. |
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Nicolai Withander
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
1093 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2010 : 17:13:43
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All true...
One thing I realy find Sick/cool is the statement: I want her to be more powerful that Larloch in raw wizardly casting power. Her stats should be staggering in power ...
That statement is like... HOLY SH... Then she must be more or less the most powerful spell caster in all of Faerūn. Go home ye old bag o' bones! |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3287 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2010 : 18:12:26
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Zireael
That's nice. Good thing I found it.
But one of the sources says she's 46th level! Can anyone confirm it?
Hmmm. I seem to recall Ed provided some brief 'unofficial' 3e stats/rules advice for the Srinshee in the "Realmslore from Elminster in Myth Drannor" of The Annotated Elminster. Those stats declare the Srinshee as a 54th level character [Wizard29/Sorcerer16/Archmage9].
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to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Menelvagor
Senior Scribe
Israel
352 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2010 : 19:02:48
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| We're talking about a woamn who's probably a demi-god. I mean, in 3.5, I think avatars of lesser gods were level 40. But she's lived as long or longer than some gods, and I think she might also be a pseudo-Chosen of the Seldarine. The questions is, what happens to her in 4e? Hmm... I'm off to ask Ed if we'll see her soon... maybe we'll hear about her in ELminster must die... |
"Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.
"Yea, though he live a thousand years twice, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?" - Ecclesiastes VI, 6.
"There are no stupid questions just a bunch of inquisitive idiots."
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Nicolai Withander
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
1093 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2010 : 19:25:25
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| Perhaps realy its not that dificult to understand. She is ancient. She is a antedeluvian. Think she's about 3400 yeahs. Could anyone confirm this? |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 01 May 2010 : 20:27:42
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Heh. She's even more than the quite official stats Ed gave in THE ANNOTATED ELMINSTER. But I dare not say more.
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Nicolai Withander
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
1093 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2010 : 20:33:21
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UH UH UH... you cant do that 
So what you are not saying is that she is more powerful still?
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the srinshee?
