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Wooly Rupert
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 Posted - 22 May 2005 : 15:55:12
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Originally posted by AsgetrionI don´t have the source books at hand right now, so I can´t look up the original description by Ed... can anyone remind me what the room in contained in the original Undermountain boxed set (if anything)?
It wasn't used in the main box set, so what WOTC wrote is made up. :)
Okay, thanks  perhaps it´s better that they stick to all those "empty" rooms instead trying to come up with "updated" versions of the old ones?
I'd rather see the previously undescribed rooms described, instead of poor rehashes of lore that's already in print.
Even better, I'd like to see real updates to Undermountain, like the ones in Dragon mentioned earlier in this thread. And it'd be truly awesome if they were written by someone like Steven Schend, who really understands Undermountain.  |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 22 May 2005 : 16:01:39
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Well, he is pretty resistant to mind-reading but we all try and channel him as much as we can.
-- George Krashos
I try to channel the "spirit" of the Realms to my players to the best of my ability, since Ed truly seems to be immune to my mind-reading attempts 
I think that when Ed gives us glimpses of Realmslore he is trying to say something like: "Look, you can come up with anything if you use your imagination - your campaign is about your vision of the Realms. Half-elven dwellings are called ´arndils´ in Sembia. Is it ´official´ if I just made it up?" etcetera.
Shamefully I must admit that still I keep pestering Ed for more Realmslore, although I could just come up with details myself 
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 23 May 2005 : 02:10:28
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Even better, I'd like to see real updates to Undermountain, like the ones in Dragon mentioned earlier in this thread. And it'd be truly awesome if they were written by someone like Steven Schend, who really understands Undermountain.
I don't think you're the only one in that category. Some expanded material on Undermountain would definitely be a welcome addition to 3e FR. And if Sage Schend was responsible for it...  ...
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
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Posted - 24 May 2005 : 17:40:16
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You may see an update to a certain heretofore undetailed section of Undermountain sooner than you think.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 24 May 2005 : 18:02:33
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
You may see an update to a certain heretofore undetailed section of Undermountain sooner than you think.
--Eric
How can it be updated if it's never before been detailed? |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 24 May 2005 : 18:18:31
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
You may see an update to a certain heretofore undetailed section of Undermountain sooner than you think.
--Eric
How can it be updated if it's never before been detailed?
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ericlboyd
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 24 May 2005 : 23:38:16
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Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
You may see an update to a certain heretofore undetailed section of Undermountain sooner than you think.
--Eric
How can it be updated if it's never before been detailed?
Smart *censored*!
Believe it or not, I wasn't trying to be flip -- hence, no emoticons after my post.
My point was that if a locale has never before been described, then there is nothing to update. I wasn't being a joker, I was wondering about the choice of words and if I was missing something. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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monch9
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Xysma
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Wooly Rupert
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 16 Jun 2005 : 12:51:59
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Room 8: The Grim Statue (EL 12) is up.
Thanks for the update WR. They at least made some attempt at Realms' tie ins at the end of the article. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Wooly Rupert
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 28 Jul 2005 : 06:39:36
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Kajehase
Great Reader
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Posted - 11 Aug 2005 : 11:27:29
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Room 11: A Cold Welcome (EL 11) is up.
As well as an article on Traps
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Wooly Rupert
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Kajehase
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Posted - 11 Aug 2005 : 13:42:13
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Wooly Rupert
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 24 Aug 2005 : 23:57:25
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So I thought I'd give my thoughts on the three winning entries...
The Undead Wish (EL Varies) -- I really like the idea of the imprisoned efreet, and what Halaster did to him. I like the idea of the curst -- there's something intriguing about curst, in general, though I do have to wonder at this one's low mental attributes.
Somehow, though, the two ideas just don't seem to merge into one cohesive idea.
The Auditorium (EL 12) -- This one is kind of a unique idea, and I like the concept of the room. I don't care for the execution of it, though. I'm not sure what I'd've done differently with a similar idea, but this one comes off as flat, to me. I just can't see it as being interesting, the way it's presented. It's like "Ho-hum, another layered magical trap. Sigh."
I actually forgot what this one was, until I skimmed over it again. That's how non-interesting it was, to me. But, I will say, I thought the "Now I'll never get that song out of my head!" bit was a nice touch.
The Temple of Fortune's Rebirth (EL 11) -- This was my favorite of the lot. I'd change a couple of things, though. I'd drop the whole "trying to bring back Tyche" element, as I think that's a bit ambitious for mortals.
And I'd drop the Netherese language for something else. Though we don't know when, exactly, Tyche was split into Beshaba and Tymora, we do know when the schism in Tyche's church happened -- and it was more than a thousand years after the fall of Netheril. Also, Netheril fell about 600 years before Halaster took over Undermountain, which further makes it unlikely that it was Netherese. So I'd make the guys that made the temple be from somewhere else.
The rest of the room description is good, though -- particularly the idea of the coin. And the cult of dead gods offers some interesting possibilities, even without the "bring back Tyche" flavor. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 25 Aug 2005 : 02:01:17
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I agree with you re the Temple of Fortune's Rebirth. It was the only entry that had decent realmslore included in it.
Oh, and if I ever find the game designer who wrote that the "Dawn Cataclysm heralded the fall of Myth Drannor" they're going to get a piece of my mind. BTW, the Dawn Cataclysm happened sometime between -255 DR and 1 DR.
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Melfius
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 08 Sep 2005 : 02:38:56
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Room 13: Ogre Trouble! (EL10) is up.
PS: I beat Wooly and Dargoth! Yay me! |
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Dargoth
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Melfius
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 08 Sep 2005 : 02:45:12
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| Thankee sai, Sage! |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 08 Sep 2005 : 02:49:40
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Originally posted by The Sage
The same could also be said of you Dargoth .
And we get a Kara-Tur reference... .
Oh, and good job Melfius .
Yeah well it was only by 20 secs and i still beat both of them to the Waterdeep news! |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 08 Sep 2005 : 03:15:44
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Hey, now... I wasn't by my computer. I was doing something more important: reading City of Splendors.
Though... I'm wondering at the delay. We usually get the new lore on Tuesday night. |
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