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The Sage
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Posted - 28 Mar 2005 :  13:45:01  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

...I have a feeling I'll get much better ideas for how I may want an Undermountain campaign to run from some upcoming resources regarding the city above it.

I'd originally thought the same.

Both the sourcebook and the novel should prove quite useful indeed.

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Wooly Rupert
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Room 3 is up. <sigh>

This one contains a plug for the miniatures, and for the upcoming Waterdeep book. Interestingly, though, it mentions the latter as a source of info about Trobriand the Metal Mage. So he's either moved up (literally!), or the sourcebook will cover, at least in very broad overview, Undermountain.

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George Krashos
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This one wasn't too bad. In fact, it was quite good. mentions of Halaster and Trobriand (yes, the Metal Mage does receive some treatment in the new Waterdeep book). All in all, I'm much happier.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 07 Apr 2005 :  03:57:38  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Room 3 is up. <sigh>



It was better than the last one. No sighs, turn that frown upside down..ah the hell with it....I like being morose too.

quote:

This one contains a plug for the miniatures, and for the upcoming Waterdeep book.



I think that's going to be standard now in each article. They are a company still, wishing to hype their products.

quote:

Interestingly, though, it mentions the latter as a source of info about Trobriand the Metal Mage. So he's either moved up (literally!), or the sourcebook will cover, at least in very broad overview, Undermountain.



I thought way back when the product was first mentioned, that it was posted somewhere that Undermountain would be covered just as you described in a broad manner. Well, if curious, you know who to ask about this subject.
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Wooly Rupert
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I don't know, the mentions of Halaster and Trobriand were a plus, but it still seemed lacking to me... Maybe it's because of the previous two rooms. <shrug>

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 07 Apr 2005 :  07:20:35  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I don't know, the mentions of Halaster and Trobriand were a plus, but it still seemed lacking to me... Maybe it's because of the previous two rooms. <shrug>



Might be that you're getting it in small spurts. Perhaps when all the rooms are put together it will be more impressive looking back on it. I'll still remain guardedly optimistic...until the rotten &$##@ disappoint me again!!!!
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Wooly Rupert
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Considering the number of rooms in Undermountain, and their slow pace in releasing covering them, I'm thinking this is only a way to promote the Waterdeep book. I think they'll prolly cover Level 1 by the time the book comes out, and then they'll move to something new.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 07 Apr 2005 :  16:23:24  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I'm thinking this is only a way to promote the Waterdeep book. I think they'll prolly cover Level 1 by the time the book comes out, and then they'll move to something new.



Yes, when we first learned of this series of articles, I mentioned that this was no doubt a great way to promote the Waterdeep tomes they had coming out. Still, even a portion of Level 1 will be nice...I hope.
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ericlboyd
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Posted - 07 Apr 2005 :  16:43:34  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Interestingly, though, it mentions the latter as a source of info about Trobriand the Metal Mage. So he's either moved up (literally!), or the sourcebook will cover, at least in very broad overview, Undermountain.



Both are true.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 07 Apr 2005 :  16:57:36  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Interestingly, though, it mentions the latter as a source of info about Trobriand the Metal Mage. So he's either moved up (literally!), or the sourcebook will cover, at least in very broad overview, Undermountain.



Both are true.

--Eric



Both are true?

Just to make sure we're on the same page... When I made that comment, what I meant was that he'd left Undermountain and was now in Waterdeep. Is that still true?

Oh, and is Squch still around? (I think that was its name; the automaton that led the revolt and chased Trobriand from his own sublevel)

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 07 Apr 2005 :  17:32:31  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Just to make sure we're on the same page... When I made that comment, what I meant was that he'd left Undermountain and was now in Waterdeep. Is that still true?



Ah, and see I thought you meant that he had moved up in Undermountain to levels closer to the surface. Thanks for the clarification.
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ericlboyd
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Posted - 07 Apr 2005 :  18:05:09  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Ah, and see I thought you meant that he had moved up in Undermountain to levels closer to the surface. Thanks for the clarification.



As did I.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 07 Apr 2005 :  18:13:08  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd
As did I.

--Eric



So EB you're thinking like me now? I'll pray for you.

And thanks for confirming some details in this thread about what we can expect in a few months.
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Kuje
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Ah, and see I thought you meant that he had moved up in Undermountain to levels closer to the surface. Thanks for the clarification.



As did I.

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George Krashos
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Posted - 08 Apr 2005 :  01:29:17  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
So EB you're thinking like me now? I'll pray for you.





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Melfius
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Posted - 08 Apr 2005 :  02:39:22  Show Profile  Visit Melfius's Homepage Send Melfius a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, I for one am glad that the Seven are finally doing something! They have spent far too long just 'hiding out' in Undermountain. As powerful (and long-lived) as they are, you would think they would have something to do with the rest of the world.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 08 Apr 2005 :  02:48:55  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Melfius

Well, I for one am glad that the Seven are finally doing something! They have spent far too long just 'hiding out' in Undermountain. As powerful (and long-lived) as they are, you would think they would have something to do with the rest of the world.



Actually, it's only like 5... One left early on, and one was killed during Halaster's Harvestide...

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 08 Apr 2005 :  03:27:36  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
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Dargoth
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Posted - 09 Apr 2005 :  11:36:53  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ill be most keen to see what he does with Rooms 12, 14 and 30

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ericlboyd
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Posted - 09 Apr 2005 :  12:57:47  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
...and one was killed during Halaster's Harvestide...



To quote Mr. Schend, "Has anyone seen the body?"

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 09 Apr 2005 :  16:22:28  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
...and one was killed during Halaster's Harvestide...



To quote Mr. Schend, "Has anyone seen the body?"

--Eric



Well, that is how we know Arcturia was killed -- her body was found.

Of course, as Steven also pointed out, there is the possibility that she had a clone who is now running around. But until I know otherwise, I'm assuming she's dead.

While you're here, Eric, a couple of questions, if I may. Is the coverage of Undermountain going to reflect the changes made to it during modules and the Dragon articles? And if Trobriand is still avoiding his sub-level, does that mean that the scaladar Squch is still around?

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ericlboyd
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Posted - 10 Apr 2005 :  02:06:02  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Don't know and maybe.

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
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Don't know and maybe.

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Thank you for such an informative answer!

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Lord Rad
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Posted - 10 Apr 2005 :  10:01:38  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Ill be most keen to see what he does with Rooms 12, 14 and 30



What do these particular rooms behold?

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Dargoth
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quote:
Originally posted by Lord Rad

quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

Ill be most keen to see what he does with Rooms 12, 14 and 30



What do these particular rooms behold?



Room 12: Drow with Altar to Selvetarm

Room 14: Tomb of a Cleric of Bane

Room 30: A pitched battle between a Kobold called Vhue and her 14 followers, it also contains a gate to Myth Drannor

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Steven Schend
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quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

quote:
Originally posted by Lord Rad

quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

Ill be most keen to see what he does with Rooms 12, 14 and 30



What do these particular rooms behold?



Room 12: Drow with Altar to Selvetarm

Room 14: Tomb of a Cleric of Bane

Room 30: A pitched battle between a Kobold called Vhue and her 14 followers, it also contains a gate to Myth Drannor



If I remember correctly, I shipped Vhue and her boys off to a forest in Cormyr during the Higharvestide of 1369, ja? Let's indeed hope they remember that.

Of course, all I can remember now of Vhue was the art order: "We've got a small band of kobolds with a really brash female leader behind a makeshift barricade of junk. Make her as sexy as you can make a female kobold."

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Dargoth
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Damn they did to

Hmm Cormyr

I wonder how Vhue and co would get on with Grodds Goblins.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 10 Apr 2005 :  15:43:14  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Room 12: Drow with Altar to Selvetarm



Given the recent upheaval to the dark elven race because of WOTSQ, the author can have a great deal of fun with that room. I hope he takes advantage of such an opportunity rather than just redoing the room with 3.5e stats.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 21 Apr 2005 :  03:29:14  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Room 4: The Hall of Mirrors.
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George Krashos
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Good job SB. Looks like your FRadar is going great guns.

I like this one. The author appears to be hitting his straps and I like the option to have the mimic act as a hidden spy for a group of PCs. This is the best of the lot so far - good job!

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