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iamunknown
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| i really dont want to see a drizzt move...to be honest with you ::is probobly going to be burned alive for this:: i dont perticularly like drizzt do'urden toomuch...im not a big fan of the "drow are all evil except for drizzt who is good and kickass" concept...if i was to see a movie about a drow i would much rather see a true drow being evil...and i dont want to see ANY D&D movie, realms or otherwise if they make the dwarves all screwed up like (nameless to say, the red-haired rippoff from the first movie >_> ) but yes, if they were to make a realms movie, i would like to see a brand new adventure, possibly of 6 unknown realms members of diferent races and classes actually performing like that race/class would...i want to see a arcane caster fire magic missles, i want to see clerics ehaling people, or bringing comrades back to life, and i REALLY wand to see a necromantic lich raising many corpses into his zombie minions. i do NOT want to see beholders if they are depicted as moronic land-dwellers fetching sticks, i want to see a beholder attacking all 6 adventurers at once with his diferent tentacle-attacks. yes, i know i am being long winded but i must speak my large hatred i know everyone felt when they took my life (D&D) and ruined it on the "big-screen" ...of course something interesting i would like to see would be a baldurs gate trilogy(x3)...like they could do the original bg story as a trilogy, and if the movie actually makes a lot of money (as i predict it will) they could make a 2nd trilogy based on baldurs gate 2, and if that one does fairly well they could finish it off with the 3rd trilogy 'throne of bhaal' ...so yes, that is my pipe-dream, but im alowed to dream arent i? ^_^ |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 27 Sep 2005 : 21:20:19
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Why in the Lord's name don't they shoot a realm novel?
I am one who believes that making a movie based on a Realms novel would be a mistake. Not only is there not any one novel that all could agree on, but there's also the issues of adapting it, getting the casting right, and so on. We Realms fans would be very critical of any Realms novel brought to the big screen...
Oh I agree, but given the widespread popularity of the Drizzt books, I would not be surprised if someday someone greenlighted the idea for a Drizzt movie.
Except for one slight problem... And before you say this wouldn't be a problem, look at the flak Lucas caught for "racial stereotypes" with Episode 1. Heck, Ron Howard is catching flak for the fact that in the movie "The Da Vinci Code", he's casting an albino person to play the part of the albino monk. Certain special interest groups are saying this perpetuates a stereotype that albino people are evil...
No movie about Drizzt would be able to avoid explaining how he is unique, a good-aligned member of a race that is notorious for being cruel, sadistic, murderous, and otherwise evil. If that was left out, then no one would understand why Drizzt was remarkable.
So the movie would have to depict all these unrepentantly evil people... who happen to have dark skin.
There is no way that something like that could be put on the big screen without special interest groups lining up to scream "racism!" Then the lawsuits would start rolling in...
Good point. I'm not going to say that wouldn't be a problem. But I assume a movie about Drizzt would be targeted at people who are already his fans, which is pretty huge, given how these books are best sellers. And such a movie might make a lot of money.
If everyone refrained from doing things because of potential naysayers, would we make progress? And of course, if there is a possiblity of big bucks, there is even less of a chance that a movie producer would care (IMO). |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 27 Sep 2005 : 22:50:02
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
True... but think, most movies that do really, really well are taken from concepts and ideas the general public can associate with. If we pick some half-orcs from Damara or Vaasa, no one will have a clue. But if we tell the story of a group of friends, all unique, who come together to stop a powerful evil - well, it sells. Plus, the books are generally NY Times best sellers, so it helps. That's my argument, at least. Christian Bale for Artemis Entreri.
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The books are bestsellers because of fantasy fans. So we'd get plenty of those... But is that enough to make a movie be a blockbuster? It didn't work for the D&D movie.
And yeah, a tale about a group of friends coming together to beat a great evil works -- so why do we have to tale the same tired tale yet again? Let's have new friends and new evil, not a rehash. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 27 Sep 2005 : 22:57:01
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Come on Wooly, I know you would love to see Alias on the big screen. A movie based on the Finder's Stone trilogy would be great. We shouldn't count out animated versions either, I would love to see an animated version of Silverfall, think "Heavy Metal FAKK 2."
Nope, not really. That's one of my fave Realms trilogies, and I'd hate to see how it would get mangled. And that's a lot of story to work into one movie -- particularly since the second book can be left out of the main story.
I did not like the movie Heavy Metal. I really didn't care for the book Silverfall. Put the two together, you've guaranteed that I won't be anywhere near the movie theater.
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We could have an animated version of Drizzt and co. in the same vein as "Clone Wars." I can picture Erevis, Jak, and Riven animated in a dark style like HBO's Spawn series.
Though I've nothing against animated movies and such, I just can't see an animated fantasy movie doing all that well. The concept certainly fails to grab me...
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I guess I'm just scared of an original story set in the Realms, look at what they did with Dungeons and Dragons.
But look at all of the original stories we've already had set in the Realms! As I've pointed out before, once upon a time, no one had heard of Drizzt Do'Urden, Erevis Cale, or Danilo Thann.
If the writers and editors weren't willing to give new characters a shot, where would the Realms be? |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 27 Sep 2005 : 23:05:43
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Although I agree with Wooly about not being particularly thrilled with the prospect of an FR movie (I beleive I said a prayer of thanks when the FR TV series fell into Limbo), if one were to come about I agree I would rather have a new story, written for the specific needs of the big screen, than an old adaptation. This would not preclude cameos from famous characters. If you were in the Dales, yes, El should show up, but not drive the story, and if the characters were in Waterdeep, Khelbun had better make an appearance, but again, not as the lead.
Also keep in mind that I am not saying I don't think there could be a good movie based on the FR, but I am saying I don't have a lot of faith in Hollywood to make it. Peter Jackson essentially had to create interest in LOTR, and thankfully enough fans were adamant about the original books that the whole Arwen Warrior Princess scenes never made it into The Two Towers, but those scenes were originally demanded by the STUDIO!
(Ostensibly to but a strong female character in an important position, ignoring Galadriel and Eowyn, but a lot of studio execs don't look that far down the road or even understand the plots of the movies they produce. Personally Eowyn would have been made pointless if Arwen was made a more active combatant, in my opinion, but enough on all of that)
Remember, these are the executives that in order to understand drow came up with the brilliant summation of drow culture thusly, "hot bitchy black women that live undergound."
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 27 Sep 2005 : 23:06:49
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Good point. I'm not going to say that wouldn't be a problem. But I assume a movie about Drizzt would be targeted at people who are already his fans, which is pretty huge, given how these books are best sellers. And such a movie might make a lot of money.
But fantasy readers, who made those books bestsellers, are a relatively small portion of the literary market. And the literary market isn't that large when compared to the movie-going public. So just because a lot of readers liked the books, it's no guarantee of success.
Look at the Lord of the Rings trilogy: yeah, it was a huge hit... the third time out. Previous attempts at movies based on this classic trilogy absolutely tanked. The trilogy succeeded this time because of a visionary at the helm and and incredible pile of cash.
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If everyone refrained from doing things because of potential naysayers, would we make progress? And of course, if there is a possiblity of big bucks, there is even less of a chance that a movie producer would care (IMO).
But I don't see that there is such a possibility of big bucks. And when the potential naysayers are the target market, you've got to tread carefully.
Some people would love to see a Drizzt movie. Some people think Drizzt has had to much air time, and would stay away for that reason. Some would love to see an Erevis Cale movie. Others couldn't care less about Erevis Cale, and would prefer to see Arilyn Moonblade in a movie. Others would say that no Realms movie could be made that didn't include Elminster and any other four Chosen of Mystra, while others would hate to see yet more of the Chosen...
I'm not advocating not making a Realms movie. I'm just saying that the best choice all around is to do what countless Realms writers and creators have done: tell a new story, with new characters. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 27 Sep 2005 : 23:14:23
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Although I agree with Wooly about not being particularly thrilled with the prospect of an FR movie (I beleive I said a prayer of thanks when the FR TV series fell into Limbo), if one were to come about I agree I would rather have a new story, written for the specific needs of the big screen, than an old adaptation. This would not preclude cameos from famous characters. If you were in the Dales, yes, El should show up, but not drive the story, and if the characters were in Waterdeep, Khelbun had better make an appearance, but again, not as the lead.
It's not that I don't want a movie, I just don't want to see any of the novels made into movies. There's enough untold stories out there; we don't need to tell another version of an existing one (it's part of the reason I don't care about the current Drizzt comic).
I agree with your point on the iconic characters, though.
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Also keep in mind that I am not saying I don't think there could be a good movie based on the FR, but I am saying I don't have a lot of faith in Hollywood to make it. Peter Jackson essentially had to create interest in LOTR, and thankfully enough fans were adamant about the original books that the whole Arwen Warrior Princess scenes never made it into The Two Towers, but those scenes were originally demanded by the STUDIO!
(Ostensibly to but a strong female character in an important position, ignoring Galadriel and Eowyn, but a lot of studio execs don't look that far down the road or even understand the plots of the movies they produce. Personally Eowyn would have been made pointless if Arwen was made a more active combatant, in my opinion, but enough on all of that)
Yeah, Hollywood has a proven ability to take a good story and either ruin it or render it unrecognizable.
I didn't know that stuff you mentioned about Arwen, but can you imagine them doing that routine to certain established Realms characters? I can too readily see them turning Cattie-Brie into Xena, or Drizzt into a scimitar-weilding Rambo...
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Remember, these are the executives that in order to understand drow came up with the brilliant summation of drow culture thusly, "hot bitchy black women that live undergound."
No, somehow I don't trust Hollywood with my Realms . . .
Exactly! Most Hollywood folks care about the bottom line, and not the story or setting. In trying to pander to the non-Realms fan, any Realms story could easily be ruined. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 27 Sep 2005 : 23:20:08
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| Just for your information . . . Arwen was suppose to lead the (not in the books) contingent of elves that made it into the movie, saving the day for the defenders of Helm's Deep . . . |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 27 Sep 2005 : 23:22:52
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| Oh, sorry to keep ranting, but the other interesting issue with Hollywood is their ability to not be able to make up their minds about how seriously to take a subject, especially in fantasy. Anyone else remember the begining of the Scorpion King were it looked like it was going to be slapstick (slow motion kinetic arrows anyone?). |
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FlimFlam69
Acolyte
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Posted - 28 Sep 2005 : 06:17:03
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Hmm.. maybe this time dragons will have an Int of 10 ? 
Why do you say that? Not that I am sticking up for the first movie in any way, but the Dragons in the first movie were being controlled by the two scepters. |
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Thelonius
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Posted - 28 Sep 2005 : 14:29:29
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I would go with Wooly this time, I think first, Hollywood shouldn't make a Realms movie, of course it would be a good form on hooking new fans, but it would be a bad form of keeping the ones that are fans already. Second if unfortunately they decide to do one (only Oghma would now why!!!) they shouldn't use an existing novel. The shelves of the cinema store are full of literature destroying movies, it would be a better choice using new chars specially created for this matter.
And in my view, maybe I am wrong, the Realms are not so known by far as The Lord of the Rings, so I think is not likely to be a directly novel based movie soon. (I hope) |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 28 Sep 2005 : 17:11:01
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And in my view, maybe I am wrong, the Realms are not so known by far as The Lord of the Rings, so I think is not likely to be a directly novel based movie soon. (I hope)
That's a good point. The fact that the Lord of the Rings novels have been around for 50 years, and have been read by countless people, undoubtedly contributed to the success of the movies.
That trilogy is pretty much required reading if you're into fantasy. While those of us here certainly love the Realms, there's a lot of fantasy readers who have never touched the setting. |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 28 Sep 2005 : 17:23:17
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True... but think, most movies that do really, really well are taken from concepts and ideas the general public can associate with. If we pick some half-orcs from Damara or Vaasa, no one will have a clue. But if we tell the story of a group of friends, all unique, who come together to stop a powerful evil - well, it sells. Plus, the books are generally NY Times best sellers, so it helps. That's my argument, at least. Christian Bale for Artemis Entreri.
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The books are bestsellers because of fantasy fans. So we'd get plenty of those... But is that enough to make a movie be a blockbuster? It didn't work for the D&D movie.
And yeah, a tale about a group of friends coming together to beat a great evil works -- so why do we have to tale the same tired tale yet again? Let's have new friends and new evil, not a rehash.
Because, honestly, it's a story that has been retold throughout time and the formula works. If you want to see a Realms movie, even a D&D movie do well, that's what people are going to want to see. And you have to look at other things that were wrong in the D&D movie. I don't think it was successful because it didn't appeal to D&D fans. It almost appealed to more to those who stereotype D&D games.
I love Drizzt novels, but I also love all Realms novels (well, except RotA), I just think their popularity and story would work best in the movies.
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 28 Sep 2005 : 17:29:01
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It seems to me that you just want to keep the Realms all to yourselves. Look at all the new LotR fans now, just because of the movies. Not everyone in the world can get through those books. I did, but that doesn't mean some of my friends are any less for not.
A Realms movie would be great for not only the FR fans, but for D&D fans, for Wizards of the Coast, for Hasbro, for Hollywood, for the Fantasy Genre.
And don't you think most people know by now that movies are not going to be great adaptations? There are very few, and I mean VERY FEW, that actually do the movies right. Hell, I could nitpick all day at LotR, but in the end, I am very happy with it.
If you took new characters, which no one could identify with, you're just going to have a remake of the original D&D movie, where no one knew who the hell these people were and what the hell the were doing. If you pick someone that some people can identify with, you're going to draw in them, their friends who they soapbox talk to, their families...
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 28 Sep 2005 : 18:09:44
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It seems to me that you just want to keep the Realms all to yourselves. Look at all the new LotR fans now, just because of the movies. Not everyone in the world can get through those books. I did, but that doesn't mean some of my friends are any less for not.
Where did I say that? I specifically stated I have no problem with the concept of a Realms movie -- I just don't want to see them do it based on one of the novels.
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A Realms movie would be great for not only the FR fans, but for D&D fans, for Wizards of the Coast, for Hasbro, for Hollywood, for the Fantasy Genre.
Like the D&D movie was? 
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And don't you think most people know by now that movies are not going to be great adaptations? There are very few, and I mean VERY FEW, that actually do the movies right. Hell, I could nitpick all day at LotR, but in the end, I am very happy with it.
Some movies are good adaptations. Some aren't. I don't trust Holywood execs to make a good adaptation of a Realms novel.
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If you took new characters, which no one could identify with, you're just going to have a remake of the original D&D movie, where no one knew who the hell these people were and what the hell the were doing. If you pick someone that some people can identify with, you're going to draw in them, their friends who they soapbox talk to, their families...
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People identify with new characters all the time. The vast majority of the movies that are out there present new characters, and we come to know them over a 2-hour span. Heck, in 1976, no one had heard of Luke Skywalker...
Only the established Realms fans would identify with particular characters -- and then, not always with certain ones. I don't identify with Drizzt...
You're saying that making a movie based on a novel only a few million people have read -- if that many -- would be a success. But that's not a large enough audience. Even if every single Drizzt fan rushed out to see a Drizzt movie, that's maybe $10M. Maybe. That's hardly a blockbuster. And after the Drizzt fans have gone, who else is going to know of or care about the character enough to see the movie?
Hollywood successfully tells new stories every weekend. And we've got thousands of untold stories in the Realms. Don't mangle an existing one to pander to a smaller fanbase, tell a new story to appeal to the larger fanbase. |
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nagitiveD
Acolyte
Canada
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Posted - 28 Sep 2005 : 18:50:01
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| Hi. I have just been reading your thoughts on an FR movie ,and if i could put in my 2 cents i would rather see a movie based on the Elminster books ,such as The Makings of a Mage/The Temptation of Elminster and exc. than a movie baesd on any other book.Being as Elminster is the most notoriuos character in the Forgoten realms .And if they did make this movie they would have to refer to Ed Greenwood for thier source of material ,and i doubt he would allow them to ruin his creative vision. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 28 Sep 2005 : 19:39:00
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| Just like Warner Brothers wouldn't dare to ruin Stephen King's creative vision on The Shining? (Just the first thought that came to mind) |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 28 Sep 2005 : 19:55:25
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Wooly... it was the collective you, not you specifically, Wooly - didn't mean to offend. 
And I just think it might be wise to stick to a book that has already been done, that way it might be easier to relate to. And I am not just talking about the Drizzt books, I am talking about any Realms book - and the reason why is not necessarily the characters - but you need to have a feeling for the land as well as a feeling for the story, you know? The Realms is great because of its diversity, so unless you focused on one spot, it would be hard to do with it, so that's why I have gravitated towards basing it on characters.
Do I think FR movie would be good whether it's based on a book or not? Yeah. Maybe I am just being selfish in hoping a story I love makes it to the big screen. But there is nothing saying it would be mangled if you had the right producer or director or cast. Could they mangle it? YES. But are we sure? No, not really.
And I didn't mean identify as relate, but identify, like - hey, I've seen that guy's books at Borders on the best seller's list. I don't relate to Drizzt, heck, if I'd want to be like anyone it be El - all the hot women... damn!
And if only the LOTR fans went to see LOTR, well, it wouldn't have done very well... but it got a whole lot of others to go.
In essence, it's mostly an opinion fueled debate. And truth be told, we're probably never going to see a realms-based movie.  . That is unless one of us wins that billion dollars and invests in the movie.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 28 Sep 2005 : 20:24:24
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But I don't see that there is such a possibility of big bucks. And when the potential naysayers are the target market, you've got to tread carefully.
*shrug* Who knows what the statistics are? I think the potential is there, partly because a lot of movies that get made these days are based on books to begin with, and it seems to me that a lot of books gain in popularity because of the movie that gets made about them.
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Some people would love to see a Drizzt movie. Some people think Drizzt has had to much air time, and would stay away for that reason. Some would love to see an Erevis Cale movie. Others couldn't care less about Erevis Cale, and would prefer to see Arilyn Moonblade in a movie. Others would say that no Realms movie could be made that didn't include Elminster and any other four Chosen of Mystra, while others would hate to see yet more of the Chosen...
I'm not advocating not making a Realms movie. I'm just saying that the best choice all around is to do what countless Realms writers and creators have done: tell a new story, with new characters.
And trust me, I am not advocating a Drizzt movie or even saying that I want one. Drizzt is not by far my favorite Realms character, nor are his books my favorite Realms stories.
But I think if someone decided to make an FR movie, Drizzt would be a likely choice, perhaps mostly likely starting with a Crstyal Shard movie. As many of us know, for better or for worse there are now Drizzt comics being produced. Perhaps some movie studio will see potential there, since it's not as if there haven't been a lot of comic book movies out lately... |
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Thelonius
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 28 Sep 2005 : 20:26:47
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| The truth is that, after reading TLotR trilogy, The Silmarilion and The Hobbit, I had to bear with a guy who after watching the movies thought he knew everything about the Middle Earth. I would hate to live the same with the Forgotten Realms. I mean it would do less favour to the setting trying to portrait Elminster in a 2 hours movie, thing that I thing is very difficult if not impossible, and showing a wrong image of him as a second-Gandalf of something like that. |
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nagitiveD
Acolyte
Canada
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Posted - 28 Sep 2005 : 20:32:51
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sure the movie might be butcherd but it would still be cool to see a FR movie or even an tv series based on Elminster's life and the characters he meets on his way to becoming the mage he is today. but as Crennen says i dont think we will ever see a FR movie.
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Gladi
Acolyte
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Posted - 29 Sep 2005 : 14:09:55
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Originally posted by Wooly RupertThough I've nothing against animated movies and such, I just can't see an animated fantasy movie doing all that well. The concept certainly fails to grab me...
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 29 Sep 2005 : 14:53:54
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Well, it depends on how that cartoon movie is done, to be honest. They could do one low budget in the same animation as Scourge of the Worlds and it would be decent. I think it would be straight to video, but it would be awesome.
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 03 Oct 2005 : 20:34:24
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| Apparently the Sci-Fi Channel is airing the new D&D movie at 9pm EST this coming Saturday. |
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TylerXKJ
Acolyte
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Posted - 04 Oct 2005 : 23:33:08
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| Don't expect a very strong performance from the actors but I clearly saw a black dragon flying throug the skies and a wizard casting a cone of cold spell in the previews, so I'm already content with the movie. Hopefully it'll be a bit better than the generic TV movies Scifi puts out. |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 04 Oct 2005 : 23:37:26
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Acid Dragon vs. cold?
I would not expext much of Scifi production, however some items are better produced. Also of course there is the real question of a ASciFi funded production or them just buying the product (with the right to say they produced it). |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
"Judgement" copyright 2003 by Elizabeth Moon |
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Kianna
Learned Scribe
USA
155 Posts |
Posted - 05 Oct 2005 : 04:32:54
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In my honest opinion I would rather watch bad live acting than bad cartoon acting (yes, Last Unicorn did suck, didn't it?). I HATED the LotR cartoons. HATED them. And that's a pretty strong word.
Give me overacting Jeremy Irons any day, please. |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
1378 Posts |
Posted - 05 Oct 2005 : 11:23:31
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How about a horrible stereotype of an elf and a dwarf? Those always make a movie absolutely wonderful.
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Still rockin' the Fey'ri style. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Kianna
Learned Scribe
USA
155 Posts |
Posted - 05 Oct 2005 : 15:02:14
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| Anything is still better than that awful LotR cartoon. I don't care what you say. :) |
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D&D movie II - Is it true?
