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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 05 Oct 2005 : 15:02:17
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Hey - I actually accepted his role as a thief. He didn't want to get caught and he was stuck with his risk-taking buddy. I don't know, but I wouldn't want to exactly break into a mage tower or challenge a high mage that is clearly over-acting!
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 05 Oct 2005 : 19:38:52
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Destroy a magic artifact? A dark wizard bent on revenge?
Can this premise get any more dopey?
Still, I might watch it (for amusement) if I'm able to, and of course remember it's on. |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
1378 Posts |
Posted - 05 Oct 2005 : 20:14:24
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Oh, well, I wasn't thinking that it's going to be a masterpiece, but it is my hobby, so I'll watch it for the laughs and the fun. Heck, especially because it has the bad guy bodyguard from the first movie. This is great!
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 05 Oct 2005 : 20:32:49
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
Oh, well, I wasn't thinking that it's going to be a masterpiece, but it is my hobby, so I'll watch it for the laughs and the fun. Heck, especially because it has the bad guy bodyguard from the first movie. This is great!
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 05 Oct 2005 : 20:58:57
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Knowing my wife and I - it's going to be one to watch with a nice cold one by oursides. Heck, it is a Sci-Fi original movie - always good for some laughs!
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Kianna
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 06 Oct 2005 : 03:21:51
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Oh boy..now I know this will ruffle some feathers but come on, the first D&D movie (and I assume this second one)wasn't any worse than some of the games I have had to sit through or some of the players I have had to run for; and I know it can't be any worse than some of the stuff you all have had experiences with (or maybe are guilty of).
Lets face it. The majority of the table-topping going on these days is cheesey crap like those movies. If you look at the movie that way, it's funny, not because it is lame, but because it is the game we all played or ran back when we were young and didn't know anything about storytelling. Maybe it was our first game, or maybe its our 150th game. I know I personally always learn something new when I run or play an RPG and I am man (or woman) enough to admit I have done some pretty lame-a$$ things in games as well(Crennen not a word form you).
The point is this: The D&D movie was great because it was the steriotyopical D&D game. The over-the-top, power hungry wizard. The bungling apprentice mage. The aspiring theif (I mean really, what theif hasn't aspired to steal magic items...I know you are all guilty of it at one time or another). The peasant hero. Its all there. So the acting may have been bad- I know I have seen some bad play-acting in games before, haven't you? And I will admit the special effects were bad too, but I don't think they even had a budget so I can forgive that. I am not totally heartless.
I hated the first movie because I thought they were ruining what I loved. But when I realized that all those actors and film makers working on the film loved D&D as much as I did (they do; watch the special features and you will see) I went back and re-watched it and realized it was more like a tribute to the world of D&D and gamers than the insult everyone took it for. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 06 Oct 2005 : 11:05:20
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Ok, well, in reality, I agree with my wife, and not because I have to  . It seemed to me that they made it the way they did to keep D&D true to its roots. Yeah, some of the characters could have been casted a little better... but seriously - the standard gamer - not us who go to a site posting our philsophies daily on a world that exists on in our minds - would love that. The plot is well-done and has been copied from a great many movies. They tried their best to mix comedy and seriousness.
It really just came off campy because a lot of us run games that are far deeper and meaningful and have characters that run deeper than the normal gamut. Think about how many times someone on here has come up with a totally unique character. In reality, these are more like pariahs. A half-dragon paladin/monk is not standard. 2 human thiefs, a mage, a dwarf, and an elf vs. an evil archmage to save the queen. Sounds like a D&D Basic game to me. In fact, it reminds me a lot of certain arcade games that I know everyone liked (D&D, Golden Axe).
Just think of it that way... was it the Realms? Was it Greenwood? Was it Salvatore? By far no... but it was simple, with no explanation needed.
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MuadDib
Senior Scribe
South Africa
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Posted - 06 Oct 2005 : 13:36:09
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Well, it would seem I'm the only person to have seen it so far, so let me just take this moment to enjoy an experience which I think has not before and never will again occur to me .
We just had our 'big' *cough cough* (bout the size of a big garage sale - anyway) games convention thing and I got it there.
So some comments, I was glad to see Damodar back, although he's nowhere as cool as in the first film, but the blue lips are gone. They do ease you into the events of the second film, so at least you'll follow what happened and what is happening.
The chap who acts as Berrick is about the best actor in the film. The rest I'm sad to say, are somewhere in acting ability between soapies and porn movies. I have a mate who honestly feels that porns are slightly more believable than this one. And I have to agree.
I never thought I would ever say it, but at least the first film had a Wayans brother in it. It had some kind of ambience and feeling to it and was at least fun. Jeremy Irons and that queen girl may not have given Oscar winning performances, but at least they can deliver lines. This film is simply appalling and with all due respect to Hooded One, for whom I have undying respect, the film is not only nowhere as good as the first, it's just plain disgusting. When you see it for yourself, indeed when our dear Ed sees it for himself he will understand where we're coming from.
I've seen action sequences acted in LARP that's better. To give a general idea of the quality, if you've seen any of the slightly higher budget Star Wars fan films, like Star Wars Revelations for example, it's not even as good as those. And I'm speaking pure production values. When you see the scene where the lich summons his spirits, you'll either start laughing or crying.
I will get each and every one of the D&D films, purely on principle. But I have to say, I'm dissapointed beyond words in this one. And this from someone who genuinely loved the first one.
If you're going to buy a straight-to-DVD film this year, get FFVII: Advent Children instead. |
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Thaingrim
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Posted - 06 Oct 2005 : 14:56:25
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i don't think it came out in europe.... but what i'm reading really makes me want to see it XD
anyways , i'm pretty sure that a grant deal of the plots used by dm's these days don't fly any higher than that of the first movie ... i find it kinda classic actually
... after some thinking i also have to state that most of our games ( my friends and i ) could never make it to the screen , since we never complete a campain , and always end up running away from danger :p |
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Beirnadri Magranth
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Posted - 06 Oct 2005 : 15:39:25
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Originally posted by Alparon
i once heard that Hollywood was going to shoot a "Drizzt Trilogy" starring Chow Yun Fat as Drizzt
has anyone heard of that, it would be awesome!!!
--the idea was to make the movie of the first 3 books--
and plus i agree with zimeros that they do not make a D&D movie again. at least they must not shoot the continuation(lack of english) of the first-it was a shame
I used to want to go into film and directing jsut so I could make this film... I had so many great ideas for doing scenes in infrared... too bad they have "darkvision" now....
you know what though, star wars makes these really low budget movies of alot of the books they make based off the novels, that are like 30 45 minutes long... i dont get why people havent done that with the dark elf trilogy or any other good fantasy novels...
lastly, D&d the movie sucked so bad I didnt even see it. what a travesty! i was embarrased to play dnd at the time. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
1695 Posts |
Posted - 06 Oct 2005 : 19:11:10
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Originally posted by MuadDib
If you're going to buy a straight-to-DVD film this year, get FFVII: Advent Children instead.
It is absolutely beautiful. I have seen a fan-sub of it already.
I plan on getting both the UMD and DVD versions of it.
My only grief with it is that Tifa isn't Tifa, she's Rinoa pretending to be Tifa.  
But given that the people that did the work for FFVIII are the ones that did Advent Children, I guess it can be excused.   |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
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Posted - 06 Oct 2005 : 21:35:10
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Originally posted by Beirnadri Magranth
lastly, D&d the movie sucked so bad I didnt even see it. what a travesty!
Um... pardon me, but how do you know it "sucked" if you didn't even see it? |
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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 06 Oct 2005 : 21:55:02
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 06 Oct 2005 : 23:12:40
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That's true - or their eyes just decided to surrender. 
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Kianna
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 19:59:23
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Just watched it.
Loved it.
But of course, I am strange like that. :) |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
1378 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 20:09:33
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Have to agree with the wife - that movie rocked. It's all about Clerics getting eaten while being dumb.
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Malarick
Seeker
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 20:48:43
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I can't believe what I am reading?
People are actually saying this movie is good?!?!
It is appalling!!
It is badly acted, it has terrible cheesy dialogue, the effects are pretty dire, and the plot is as weak as wet paper bag!
I was never much of a fan of the Hercules or Xena TV shows, but even they look like masterpieces in comparison!
Now folk here might be comparing this film to the previous D&D film, or they must be just exultant as there is a film that carries the title 'Dungeons & Dragons'. But if you compare it to ANY decent film, you will see that it is a mess!
I wish these people would stop making these films!! |
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Kentinal
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Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 21:47:12
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Well I saw part of it, was not all impressed with what I saw. Though is was cute the two rules, that were flashed. Never splite the party. Always keep the Cleric alive.
It appears both rules might have been broken, but not sure because did only see parts of it.
Web reviews that I have looked at did indeed considered much better then the first movie. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
1695 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 23:06:15
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Originally posted by Malarick
I can't believe what I am reading?
People are actually saying this movie is good?!?!
It is appalling!!
It is badly acted, it has terrible cheesy dialogue, the effects are pretty dire, and the plot is as weak as wet paper bag!
I was never much of a fan of the Hercules or Xena TV shows, but even they look like masterpieces in comparison!
Now folk here might be comparing this film to the previous D&D film, or they must be just exultant as there is a film that carries the title 'Dungeons & Dragons'. But if you compare it to ANY decent film, you will see that it is a mess!
I wish these people would stop making these films!!
Taken in content especially from what I have been hearing with it compared to the 1st movie, almost any movie would be a "good" movie.
Didn't get a chance to see it myself, forgot to set the VCR and was out with a friend all day. |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 23:09:01
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I think you are getting it wrong... it's good in the fact that it was funny, comical - and reminds me a lot of games I've heard of in the past. What did you expect being a Sci-Fi original? I wasn't thinking it would be equivalent to Ray or Million Dollar baby or anything like that.
It was fun, and it kept me entertained.
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 23:20:34
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
I think you are getting it wrong... it's good in the fact that it was funny, comical - and reminds me a lot of games I've heard of in the past. What did you expect being a Sci-Fi original? I wasn't thinking it would be equivalent to Ray or Million Dollar baby or anything like that.
It was fun, and it kept me entertained.
C-Fb
Yep, some of the Sci-Fi Originals didn't really hold a candle to some of the originals like Dune, but watching the Sci-Fi Movies in addition with other movies, gives one a better sense of what is going on in the universe.
Kinda like how with Anime, watching it in Englished dubbed and also watching it sub-titled can give you a better picture of the show.
Has Sci-Fi given notice of when they are going to do another showing of the D&D Movie 2 yet? |
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Malarick
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Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 23:34:09
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Has Sci-Fi given notice of when they are going to do another showing of the D&D Movie 2 yet?
If you missed it at the weekend you will be able to catch it again Thursday, Oct. 13, at 9/8C.
BTW I am not knocking anyone here, we are all entitled to our opinions.
You are right though, for most of the this film you will be laughing, as it is a mockery.
The thing is, the actors really play it dead straight and take the subject matter really seriously.
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Kentinal
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Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 23:44:15
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Has Sci-Fi given notice of when they are going to do another showing of the D&D Movie 2 yet?
I find this
"Five heroes undertake a quest to prevent the rise of a dragon god and an evil sorceror. Mark Dymond (the James Bond film Die Another Day), Bruce Payne (reprising his role as Damodar from the original Dungeons & Dragons) and Clemency Burton-Hill (the upcoming miniseries Supernova) star in this fantasy epic.
Thursday, Oct. 13, at 9/8C" |
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warlockco
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TylerXKJ
Acolyte
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Posted - 10 Oct 2005 : 02:44:21
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I saw this movie saturday and I loved it! I stayed up late to watch it again at 1:30 AM. It's a low budget flick but it did more and is better than the origional film and was done with far less money!
The movie actually feels like dungeons and dragons! Unlike the first movie I could actually tell what magic items the characters were using and what spells they were casting! No more generic glowey swords or magic powder based spells! You could tell what classes the characters were and what archetypes they represented.
The acting was pretty good in my opinion. The guy who played Nim the Rogue stole almost every scene he was in and the banter betweeen him and the barbarian woman was hilarious!
The characters had a bit of depth to them aswell. Berrek, the main character is a semi-retired swordsman looking to get back to the glory days and his wife is a fledgling sorcerer looking to get on the mage's council by harnessing divine magic! Lux the barbarian is looking to reclaim her familiy's honor after her brother went berserk on a mission and Berrek was forced to kill him. Nim the rogue is very clever and the movie has him disarming lots of traps. There is an elf wizard looking to test her skill and she sure shows it! The cleric of Obadhai is insightful and very powerful also.
Monsters straight from the monster manual were every where! You see a white dragon, darkmantles, harpies, Lich, magmin, a black dragon dracolich, an air elemental, and even two dead drow!
They show several spells being cast and mention several by name too. Gust of Wind, Detect Magic, Lightning Bolt, Vision, Discern Location, Fireball, trueseeing, dispel magic, illusory terrain, hold person, and disintigrate are all used. The elven wizard clearly uses a ring of the ram twice in the movie aswell as a staff of thunderbolts and a figurine of wonderous power. Berrek has a keen longsword and Nim finds a gem of true seeing.
Here's the basic plot:
Damodar cures himself of the unlife that he was cursed with after he failed Profein in the first movie. Now it's a hundred years later and he wants to destroy all of Ismir with the powerful black orb artifact. He plans to awaken the avatar of Falazure, dragon god of Decay! A party is assembled to try and sneak into his lair and get the orb so that Falazure will remain asleep. The movie has low budget cgi and makeup but it is dnd to the core! |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 10 Oct 2005 : 04:31:32
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| I missed it Saturday (though I don't regret it), so I'll try to catch Thursday. It may be good for a few laughs. |
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Malarick
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Posted - 10 Oct 2005 : 11:34:04
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Originally posted by TylerXKJYou could tell what classes the characters were and what archetypes they represented.
Well it's not hard to tell what they are especially with dialogue like
"Barbarian......STOP!!"
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Nim the rogue is very clever and the movie has him disarming lots of traps.
And setting them off too!
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They show several spells being cast and mention several by name too.
This is the problem. These things should be invisible in a movie. We shouldn't have to know what spell they are casting, it is not important to the story.
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Damodar cures himself of the unlife that he was cursed with
Because that makes sense. A Wizards hencman suddenly becomes and all powerful sorcerer!
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The movie has low budget cgi and makeup but it is dnd to the core!
It may be D&D to the core, but you don't have to make a film that is blatantly a direct representation of the game. They should make a film that appeals to NON D&D fans, with only a few subtle treats thrown in for the fans.
I can see why you, or anyone on here might enjoy this film, as you are big fans of the game. But as a movie fan this rates right down at the bottom.
I wish people would just step back and look at it as a film, and not a LRPG! |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 10 Oct 2005 : 14:57:02
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Whoa - seriously - they should have made a movie like that for the general public the first time around. But the second movie, being on Sci-Fi and all, well, I am glad they threw in all of those treats. I hope they release a DVD of it - good times ahead!
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Kianna
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Posted - 10 Oct 2005 : 15:08:38
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Originally posted by Malarick
Because that makes sense. A Wizards hencman suddenly becomes and all powerful sorcerer!
Did we all of a sudden forget that: 1. people can multiclass and 2. the story says it had been a thousand years since the last movie?
What's up with all the hate going on? Yes, the movie is not going to win any Oscars. In fact good movies rarely do so that point is moot anyway. I think the only good fantasy movie that did win anything was LotR.
Its a SciFi Channel original. Cut it some slack. At least someone out there is trying to make more fantasy films. Was Conan Oscar worthy? Red Sonja? I definately know LadyHawk wasn't. But for the fantasy fan its something at least.
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