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Rhezarnos
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Posted - 21 Mar 2005 :  04:49:27  Show Profile  Visit Rhezarnos's Homepage Send Rhezarnos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Jargan

Wait a minute, if my memory serves me right, didn't the first dnd movie like....suck.



Don't worry, I'm sure this sequel will be much better.



Pray it will be better...I almost cried because I wasted time and money watching it.

Playing a winged dwarf with acrophobia is fun.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 21 Mar 2005 :  06:35:40  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rhezarnos
Pray it will be better...I almost cried because I wasted time and money watching it.



Sorry, I refuse to expend any energy praying to my deities regarding this movie.

Are you going to see this sequel despite the first one being a disappointment?
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Rhezarnos
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Posted - 21 Mar 2005 :  07:51:53  Show Profile  Visit Rhezarnos's Homepage Send Rhezarnos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Sorry, I refuse to expend any energy praying to my deities regarding this movie.

Are you going to see this sequel despite the first one being a disappointment?



Hmm...Maybe, probably not though. Don't want to make a second regrettable mistake

Playing a winged dwarf with acrophobia is fun.
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FlimFlam69
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Posted - 16 Sep 2005 :  00:08:57  Show Profile  Visit FlimFlam69's Homepage Send FlimFlam69 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It is not going straight to video. It is airing on Sci-Fi Oct 8th:

http://www.scifi.com/dnd/
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Crennen FaerieBane
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Posted - 16 Sep 2005 :  00:49:49  Show Profile Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Airing on Sci-Fi! Sweet, less money we have to spend then!!! :)

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Sir Luther Cromwell
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Posted - 16 Sep 2005 :  03:36:56  Show Profile  Visit Sir Luther Cromwell's Homepage Send Sir Luther Cromwell a Private Message  Reply with Quote
See, from the way I see it, the second D&D movie is like a brain tumor. It's just so horrible, degrading, and stupifying, but there's next to nothing you can do about it. All that can be done is just ride it out until it ends.

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Shadovar
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Posted - 16 Sep 2005 :  04:13:03  Show Profile  Visit Shadovar's Homepage Send Shadovar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I say watch the movie first on 8th October, then we can think of the comments on the movie. Who knows this movie might be an improvement to the last one?

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 16 Sep 2005 :  04:35:02  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message  Reply with Quote
According to some private discussions Ed of the Greenwood had at GenCon Indy this year, the second movie will be much better than the first (I realize that’s not saying a lot), and the third movie will be better yet.
With that said, we all know that true fans of the game will always be disappointed at SOMEthing (probably several somethings) in any D&D movie.
However, the studio was sufficiently impressed with this second movie for a plan to arise (that fell through) to fly Ed and Gary Gygax to see a screening of the movie so their reactions could be recorded for a commentary track on the DVD. As I said, this didn’t happen - - but if the movie was bad, the execs would hardly want to invite a trashing.
And there are some good reasons why the first movie ended up so not-good, involving money running out and some scenes not being filmed at all.
Oh, well, there's always Jackson's LOTR . . .
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Skeptic
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Posted - 16 Sep 2005 :  05:11:37  Show Profile Send Skeptic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm.. maybe this time dragons will have an Int of 10 ?
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Thelonius
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It would be nice . I remember I got incredibly and wildly disappointed when I warched the first movie, specially the final battle, and for the dramantic content of the elf ranger, who's name I can't just rememeber (anyone surprised?). I recall saying to one of my friends I saw NPC's in video games with deeper scripts that the ones on the movie, I am talking about the kids that scream "¡You look weird!" In Baldur's Gate Saga

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Lord Rad
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Posted - 16 Sep 2005 :  08:43:30  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A friend of mine has already seen this sequel. It's a "straight to DVD" release and won't be on at the cinema. We had both had a long standing of defending the original D&D movie, purlely out of loyalty to the game but have to admit that it was quite bad in places.

As for the sequel, i'm told that it is absolutely appauling and that the producers certainly haven't took any advise from the feedback of the last film onboard. This friend of mine said "if we take the original D&D movie as a benchmark, and give it a score of 10, then the sequel has a score of 2"!

Apparently, the acting makes you cringe. Sounds like further damage to our hobby!

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ShadowJack
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Posted - 16 Sep 2005 :  13:02:28  Show Profile  Visit ShadowJack's Homepage Send ShadowJack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Come on Folks, the movie wasn't great, but it was not the worst either... The special effects were good, it had a fun feel to it. It did nothing to promote D & D, as far as making it less bizarre to the public, but they did get the color of the dragons right... It would be nice to see a film approaching the caliber of the Lord of the Rings done for Forgotten Realms (oh, to dream...) but, I still would not totally trash the first D & D film. If they do another lets hope it gets better!

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Sir Luther Cromwell
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Posted - 16 Sep 2005 :  14:46:04  Show Profile  Visit Sir Luther Cromwell's Homepage Send Sir Luther Cromwell a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I know this is off topic but:

Congradulations Hooded one. 1000 posts!

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Crennen FaerieBane
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Posted - 16 Sep 2005 :  14:54:01  Show Profile Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The only thing that trips me out about this new movie is the fact that Bruce Payne is back... is he doing a reprise as the blue-lipped one or is he supposed to be a new character? Oh well, we'll have to tune in and check it out.

C-Fb

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Alaundo
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Posted - 16 Sep 2005 :  18:41:35  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sir Luther Cromwell

I know this is off topic but:

Congradulations Hooded one. 1000 posts!



Well met

Indeed. And here are more congratulations

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iamunknown
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Posted - 25 Sep 2005 :  05:16:56  Show Profile  Visit iamunknown's Homepage Send iamunknown a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.scifi.com/dnd/

dungeons & dragons II: wrath of the dragon god will be shown on scifi network saturday oct 8th...so if it sucks atleast i wont be wasting any money on it ^_^
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Brom Greenstar
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Posted - 26 Sep 2005 :  14:43:45  Show Profile  Visit Brom Greenstar's Homepage Send Brom Greenstar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
folks i've tried to endure d&d2, but my stomach held only for 30' (yes i drunk poison every day to be ready for it, didn't work)
Why in the Lord's name don't they shoot a realm novel?
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 26 Sep 2005 :  17:23:46  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brom Greenstar

Why in the Lord's name don't they shoot a realm novel?



I am one who believes that making a movie based on a Realms novel would be a mistake. Not only is there not any one novel that all could agree on, but there's also the issues of adapting it, getting the casting right, and so on. We Realms fans would be very critical of any Realms novel brought to the big screen...

I have no problem with the concept of a Realms movie. I just feel that if they're going to do it, do what the countless novel and anthology (and even the comic book!) writers have done: give us new characters and a new tale.

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Crennen FaerieBane
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Posted - 26 Sep 2005 :  20:59:10  Show Profile Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, but Wooly, Tom Cruise could play Drizzt!

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 26 Sep 2005 :  21:10:11  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Brom Greenstar

Why in the Lord's name don't they shoot a realm novel?



I am one who believes that making a movie based on a Realms novel would be a mistake. Not only is there not any one novel that all could agree on, but there's also the issues of adapting it, getting the casting right, and so on. We Realms fans would be very critical of any Realms novel brought to the big screen...




Oh I agree, but given the widespread popularity of the Drizzt books, I would not be surprised if someday someone greenlighted the idea for a Drizzt movie.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 26 Sep 2005 :  23:16:38  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Brom Greenstar

Why in the Lord's name don't they shoot a realm novel?



I am one who believes that making a movie based on a Realms novel would be a mistake. Not only is there not any one novel that all could agree on, but there's also the issues of adapting it, getting the casting right, and so on. We Realms fans would be very critical of any Realms novel brought to the big screen...




Oh I agree, but given the widespread popularity of the Drizzt books, I would not be surprised if someday someone greenlighted the idea for a Drizzt movie.



Except for one slight problem... And before you say this wouldn't be a problem, look at the flak Lucas caught for "racial stereotypes" with Episode 1. Heck, Ron Howard is catching flak for the fact that in the movie "The Da Vinci Code", he's casting an albino person to play the part of the albino monk. Certain special interest groups are saying this perpetuates a stereotype that albino people are evil...

No movie about Drizzt would be able to avoid explaining how he is unique, a good-aligned member of a race that is notorious for being cruel, sadistic, murderous, and otherwise evil. If that was left out, then no one would understand why Drizzt was remarkable.

So the movie would have to depict all these unrepentantly evil people... who happen to have dark skin.

There is no way that something like that could be put on the big screen without special interest groups lining up to scream "racism!" Then the lawsuits would start rolling in...

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Grunker
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Oh. No.

Yet another terrible mistake that will add to roleplayers, already, bad reputation.

I shiver as I think of the horribleness that was the D&D movie, and as sequels are usually worse, I can only hope I won't get a heart attack if I see it.

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khorne
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Posted - 27 Sep 2005 :  13:49:53  Show Profile  Visit khorne's Homepage Send khorne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Brom Greenstar

Why in the Lord's name don't they shoot a realm novel?



I am one who believes that making a movie based on a Realms novel would be a mistake. Not only is there not any one novel that all could agree on, but there's also the issues of adapting it, getting the casting right, and so on. We Realms fans would be very critical of any Realms novel brought to the big screen...




Oh I agree, but given the widespread popularity of the Drizzt books, I would not be surprised if someday someone greenlighted the idea for a Drizzt movie.



Except for one slight problem... And before you say this wouldn't be a problem, look at the flak Lucas caught for "racial stereotypes" with Episode 1. Heck, Ron Howard is catching flak for the fact that in the movie "The Da Vinci Code", he's casting an albino person to play the part of the albino monk. Certain special interest groups are saying this perpetuates a stereotype that albino people are evil...

No movie about Drizzt would be able to avoid explaining how he is unique, a good-aligned member of a race that is notorious for being cruel, sadistic, murderous, and otherwise evil. If that was left out, then no one would understand why Drizzt was remarkable.

So the movie would have to depict all these unrepentantly evil people... who happen to have dark skin.

There is no way that something like that could be put on the big screen without special interest groups lining up to scream "racism!" Then the lawsuits would start rolling in...

Racial stereotypes in episode 1? Whut?

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Crennen FaerieBane
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Posted - 27 Sep 2005 :  14:16:57  Show Profile Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, you could always just do Icewind Dale and not have to explain the history of Drizzt or anything. You could just have an adventure with the good adventurers of the Ten Towns vs. Akar Kassell (sp) and the Cryshal-Tirith... then you don't have to explain anything. No one needed to know all about Legolas to accept he was an elf... heck, only in the extended version do they mention that he's a prince... but people just accepted. Oh well... If I had a billion dollars, I would make my own Realms movie.. but wouldn't we all!

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iamunknown
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Posted - 27 Sep 2005 :  16:00:49  Show Profile  Visit iamunknown's Homepage Send iamunknown a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane

Well, you could always just do Icewind Dale and not have to explain the history of Drizzt or anything. You could just have an adventure with the good adventurers of the Ten Towns vs. Akar Kassell (sp) and the Cryshal-Tirith... then you don't have to explain anything. No one needed to know all about Legolas to accept he was an elf... heck, only in the extended version do they mention that he's a prince... but people just accepted. Oh well... If I had a billion dollars, I would make my own Realms movie.. but wouldn't we all!

C-Fb

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 27 Sep 2005 :  17:13:09  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, but then Drizzt is just an elf -- he's not anything special.

Besides, even that does necessitate delving into Drizzt's past. How did he recognize Errtu? Because he'd seen him before, before leaving Menzonberranzan. And why did no one want to trust Drizzt? Because he's a drow.

Between the anthologies, the novels, the comics, the sourcebooks, the web releases, and the computer games, we've seen all or part of a thousand Realms tales. We've got more stuff coming out every month, showing there's still thousands of untold stories in the Realms. If we are going to do a Realms movie, then let's tell a new tale, instead of rehashing one we already know.

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Crennen FaerieBane
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True... but think, most movies that do really, really well are taken from concepts and ideas the general public can associate with. If we pick some half-orcs from Damara or Vaasa, no one will have a clue. But if we tell the story of a group of friends, all unique, who come together to stop a powerful evil - well, it sells. Plus, the books are generally NY Times best sellers, so it helps. That's my argument, at least. Christian Bale for Artemis Entreri.

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Xysma
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Posted - 27 Sep 2005 :  18:12:06  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Yeah, but then Drizzt is just an elf -- he's not anything special.

Besides, even that does necessitate delving into Drizzt's past. How did he recognize Errtu? Because he'd seen him before, before leaving Menzonberranzan. And why did no one want to trust Drizzt? Because he's a drow.

Between the anthologies, the novels, the comics, the sourcebooks, the web releases, and the computer games, we've seen all or part of a thousand Realms tales. We've got more stuff coming out every month, showing there's still thousands of untold stories in the Realms. If we are going to do a Realms movie, then let's tell a new tale, instead of rehashing one we already know.




Come on Wooly, I know you would love to see Alias on the big screen. A movie based on the Finder's Stone trilogy would be great. We shouldn't count out animated versions either, I would love to see an animated version of Silverfall, think "Heavy Metal FAKK 2." We could have an animated version of Drizzt and co. in the same vein as "Clone Wars." I can picture Erevis, Jak, and Riven animated in a dark style like HBO's Spawn series. I guess I'm just scared of an original story set in the Realms, look at what they did with Dungeons and Dragons. Although, from what I have seen and read, this sequel is supposedly better than the first (couldn;t get much worse) and the third film is supposed to be even better yet, I guess we'll see.

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khorne
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quote:
Originally posted by Xysma

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Yeah, but then Drizzt is just an elf -- he's not anything special.

Besides, even that does necessitate delving into Drizzt's past. How did he recognize Errtu? Because he'd seen him before, before leaving Menzonberranzan. And why did no one want to trust Drizzt? Because he's a drow.

Between the anthologies, the novels, the comics, the sourcebooks, the web releases, and the computer games, we've seen all or part of a thousand Realms tales. We've got more stuff coming out every month, showing there's still thousands of untold stories in the Realms. If we are going to do a Realms movie, then let's tell a new tale, instead of rehashing one we already know.




Come on Wooly, I know you would love to see Alias on the big screen. A movie based on the Finder's Stone trilogy would be great. We shouldn't count out animated versions either, I would love to see an animated version of Silverfall, think "Heavy Metal FAKK 2." We could have an animated version of Drizzt and co. in the same vein as "Clone Wars." I can picture Erevis, Jak, and Riven animated in a dark style like HBO's Spawn series. I guess I'm just scared of an original story set in the Realms, look at what they did with Dungeons and Dragons. Although, from what I have seen and read, this sequel is supposedly better than the first (couldn;t get much worse) and the third film is supposed to be even better yet, I guess we'll see.

How about a Forgotten Realms anime?

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Crennen FaerieBane
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Posted - 27 Sep 2005 :  19:58:57  Show Profile Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No... I love Anime, and I love FR, but I would not put them together.

Well, only if the artwork is really good and they refrain from giving Elves sideways pointing ears

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