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Lysander
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Posted - 03 Mar 2005 :  20:06:29  Show Profile  Visit Lysander's Homepage Send Lysander a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by kuje31
I will be. :) Just like I did for the arctic one.



How was Frostburn? I'm still reading through Races of the Wild and I'm pretty impressed so far. I'm about 30 pages in and I haven't seen a Prestige class yet. It surprised me so much, that I worry I got some defective copy.


They moved 'em to the end of the book, that's why.

After my flip through of Races of Destiny, I was pleasantly surprised at Races of the Wild. Two (at least) of the prestige classes relate directly back to the fluff, so I wasn't put out by them. (In fact, one I might use on my next PbEM character and the other will find it's way into other work I'm doing at the moment.)

(Edited for Spelling)

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Kuje
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Posted - 03 Mar 2005 :  21:03:24  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by kuje31
I will be. :) Just like I did for the arctic one.



How was Frostburn? I'm still reading through Races of the Wild and I'm pretty impressed so far. I'm about 30 pages in and I haven't seen a Prestige class yet. It surprised me so much, that I worry I got some defective copy.



I liked it better then Races. Races is more of greyhawk lite and thus parts of it conflict with the elven info we have for FR.

But Frostburn isn't bad for arctic adventures and to flush out that type of geography.

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Mareka
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Posted - 03 Mar 2005 :  22:03:15  Show Profile  Visit Mareka's Homepage Send Mareka a Private Message  Reply with Quote
'Frostburn' is very useful if a DM wants survival in the wilderness to play a larger role. Having run a campaign in the Silver Marches during the winter, I find the core rules to be irrelevant for characters over about level 6 because they almost always succeed on their survival rolls. 'Frostburn' would have made travel in the rugged North more realistic and challenging had we had it for that campaign.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 08 Mar 2005 :  03:41:25  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Ten Reasons for Players to Buy Sandstorm
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Chosen of Bane
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Posted - 08 Mar 2005 :  04:13:53  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Bane's Homepage Send Chosen of Bane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack


How was Frostburn?


When I fist saw Frostburn on the shelves I was totally disinterested but I have a problem where I buy EVERY Realms & Generic Sourcebook so I bought it anyway.

After reading through it I absolutely loved it! The cold weather survival is much more difficult and much more realistic. I am definitely going to buy Sandstorm, if it is half as good as Frostburn it will be worth the cash.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 08 Mar 2005 :  04:27:59  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Bane
When I fist saw Frostburn on the shelves I was totally disinterested but I have a problem where I buy EVERY Realms & Generic Sourcebook so I bought it anyway.



I used to have such dedication. A few 3.0 tomes that I found worthless quickly ended that from ever being a trait I possess again.


quote:

After reading through it I absolutely loved it! The cold weather survival is much more difficult and much more realistic. I am definitely going to buy Sandstorm, if it is half as good as Frostburn it will be worth the cash.



I'm glad you enjoyed it. I'm going to wait until a D20 publication comes out later this year to see what it says about campaigns in a certain winter environment before taking a look at Frostburn.
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The Sage
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My purchase of Frostbun was specifically tied to my interest in running campaigns in an artic environment, which I enjoy.

Although, I'm planning a campaign in the Plains of Purple Dust for May. Sandstorm might prove useful, but I'm not entirely sure I can justify the purchase of a D&D tome for just one adventure... at least from this point.

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

My purchase of Frostbun was specifically tied to my interest in running campaigns in an artic environment, which I enjoy.


Frostbun?

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The Sage
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Posted - 10 Mar 2005 :  13:36:41  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Whoops!

It seems like I've got buns on the brain at the moment. Of course, I meant Frostburn, but then perhaps I could have been talking about some unusual Savage Frontier dessert.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 11 Mar 2005 :  16:27:34  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ten Reasons for DMs to Buy Sandstorm is now posted.
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The Sage
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Well, I see only two out of the complete ten reasons for me to purchase Sandstorm.

The first was the details on the touchstones, and the second was the pages dedicated to desert peoples.

Still not reason enough... .

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SirUrza
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Another PDF to add to my collection.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 12 Mar 2005 :  07:47:23  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Still not reason enough... .



Ditto. I purchased Races of the Wild. Thus, it's some other scribes turn to support WOTC and keep it from slipping into bankruptcy. Besides, I lived in Las Vegas for a good portion of my life. I know enough about deserts.
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Dargoth
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Posted - 12 Mar 2005 :  07:52:44  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
and you can bet your bottom dollar that the more useful stuff from the enviroment books will get repeated in a realms source book suspects we'll see Frostburn stuff in a Future Coldlands/Great Glacier source book, the Sandburn stuff will appear in the Calimshan source book and Maelstrom stuff will appear in a Sea of Fallen Stars source book

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 12 Mar 2005 :  07:57:47  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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I have no intention of being burnt twice



I don't blame you. But, they will continue to conduct such actions as long as consumers buy the products.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 12 Mar 2005 :  08:02:43  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And being the WOTC publicity whore that I am, the Sandstorm Art Gallery is now up.
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The Sage
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Still not reason enough... .



Ditto. I purchased Races of the Wild. Thus, it's some other scribes turn to support WOTC and keep it from slipping into bankruptcy. Besides, I lived in Las Vegas for a good portion of my life. I know enough about deserts.

I've avoided reviews for this product, so if you're willing, I'd like to hear what you thought about Races of the Wild...

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Posted - 12 Mar 2005 :  14:02:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
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and you can bet your bottom dollar that the more useful stuff from the enviroment books will get repeated in a realms source book suspects we'll see Frostburn stuff in a Future Coldlands/Great Glacier source book, the Sandburn stuff will appear in the Calimshan source book and Maelstrom stuff will appear in a Sea of Fallen Stars source book

I have no intention of being burnt twice



I'm not so sure-it would have been that way earlier in 3e, certainly. These days, though, they're likely to cross reference everything to hell and be done with it-which brings them more money and gives those of us who have bought nearly all the 3e sourcebooks more content for our money.
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Dargoth
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Posted - 15 Mar 2005 :  06:16:14  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well now that weve got th last trimester of WOTC releases I feel compelled to add

Sons of Grummsh (The FR module) I wonder if this is tied into RAS last Drizzt novel

Champions of Valor, I am a little disappointed that we wont get a 2nd Region specfic source book

D&D spell compendium depending what this is it could be a must have or a pass

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 15 Mar 2005 :  06:22:16  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
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I am a little disappointed that we wont get a 2nd Region specfic source book



You're not the only one.
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Dargoth
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Posted - 15 Mar 2005 :  06:24:26  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote

I really thought we where in with a shot for a Cold lands or old Empires source book this year

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 15 Mar 2005 :  06:28:55  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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I really thought we where in with a shot for a Cold lands or old Empires source book this year



Not even two areas I'd be interested in, but at least it would be something. No doubt, the Valor book is more appealing for WOTC on the product schedule since it should be more generic than a sourcebook so non-FR fans can mine stuff from it.
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Dargoth
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Posted - 15 Mar 2005 :  06:33:36  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I imagine Champions of Valour will be aimed at Players i plenty of stuff for there PrCs

However if Thomas puts even a single monster stat in Champions of Valour than the book reverts back to a DM only Source book

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Gray Richardson
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If Champions of Ruin is any indication, then Champions of Valor is likely to have some unique Celestials in it, and maybe some FR themed planar touchstones. It may also touch on the Harpers and Moonstars and the Heralds possibly along with other good organizations in the realms.

It may in part be an FR version of the Book of Exalted Deeds.
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The Sage
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You really like those touchstones, don't you Gray?

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ericlboyd
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I would encourage folks to look at Dungeon #121. It has another adventure set in the Dalelands by Skip Williams. If there's good response by FR fans to FR adventures in Dungeon, there's sure to be more.

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The Sage
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Will they continue to be Dalelands adventures?

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Sorry, I meant 'contine to be more FR adventures by various authors'. I have no idea if Skip will do more Dalelands adventures. I would note that he's done 3, one low level, one mid-level, and one high level (using Dungeon's classification scheme), so that may mean he's ready to do a new topic.

All three have been easily portable to other parts of the Realms, FWIW.

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