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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
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 Posted - 20 Jun 2005 : 18:10:54
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It is very good to hear all that news about this tome. I think that I will go to Amazon next month, and buy my copy soon 
But tell me one thing: Speaking about "faith matters", we have some news about Lady Alathene Moonstar? It is very good to hear that Tymora smiles to Kyriani Agrivar, so I start to wonder if Lady Alathene have some new development (maybe finally found that dastard Vanrak  )
Chosen of Moradin, Knight of pen and quill, and one member of that great army of lovers of Lady Kyriani  |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1120 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2005 : 21:36:53
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And another related question:
Feluna Moonstar and the selunite werecats make his way to the City of Splendors tome?
Chosen of Moradin, thinking in how strange will be a weretressyn  , and remembering fondly in one day when Lady Kyri lead him to the House of Moon, and there from the Infinite Staircase, right down to Grazz´t layers, to rescue the Merchant´s Friend.... good ol´days... |
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BobROE
Learned Scribe
Canada
106 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2005 : 21:44:11
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Originally posted by Snotlord
How is the binding? Somebody please tell me, maybe I'll get some rest 
Mine was fine, really tight in fact (ie wouldn't sit open when I got it). |
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Snotlord
Senior Scribe
Norway
476 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2005 : 21:54:20
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6662 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2005 : 01:31:44
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Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin
It is very good to hear that Tymora smiles to Kyriani Agrivar, so I start to wonder if Lady Alathene have some new development (maybe finally found that dastard Vanrak )
Ahh yes, Vanrak. I'd like to seee more of him. Eric?
-- George Krashos
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
2067 Posts |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2005 : 02:11:56
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Originally posted by BobROE
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Originally posted by Snotlord
How is the binding? Somebody please tell me, maybe I'll get some rest
Mine was fine, really tight in fact (ie wouldn't sit open when I got it).
I got mine today and my binding was as you described above. I look forward to getting a chance to read through this tome. Right now, one of my players is reading it. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2005 : 02:51:45
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Hey Eric
Apparently CoS doesnt have much to say about Skullport due to it have a fairly recent 2ed source book
Any chance we could get an update on the "Last couple of years of news and events" and a 3ed stating of the NPCs in 2ed Skullport? (Even if its just a single stat line) |
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Emperor Sigismund
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
2067 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2005 : 03:31:12
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City of Splendors does have 3e updates of the NPCs in 2e Skullport. It also has the latest events (focused primarily on the Paul Kemp trilogy effects).
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
1695 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2005 : 09:46:29
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by BobROE
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Originally posted by Snotlord
How is the binding? Somebody please tell me, maybe I'll get some rest
Mine was fine, really tight in fact (ie wouldn't sit open when I got it).
I got mine today and my binding was as you described above. I look forward to getting a chance to read through this tome. Right now, one of my players is reading it.
Gasp!!! 
How could you do that. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
1695 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2005 : 09:47:36
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Hey Eric
Apparently CoS doesnt have much to say about Skullport due to it have a fairly recent 2ed source book
Any chance we could get an update on the "Last couple of years of news and events" and a 3ed stating of the NPCs in 2ed Skullport? (Even if its just a single stat line)
I think about 2 dozen NPCs from Skullport have the single stat line. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2005 : 10:31:15
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Which Skullport NPCs get a write up?
(I seem to recall that one maybe 2 of the NPCs from Skullport where stated in Serpent Kingdoms) |
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
2067 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2005 : 11:01:01
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Originally posted by warlockco
I think about 2 dozen NPCs from Skullport have the single stat line.
Unless something changed in a very late draft of editing (don't have the book yet), every single NPC mentioned in the NPC chapter of Skullport gets a single stat line. That's all that's really needed to update the Skullport book to 3e, IMO, plus it gives new DMs something to work with I hope.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36797 Posts |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2005 : 11:23:49
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Originally posted by warlockco
Gasp!!!
How could you do that.
Do what? Let my player have it? Easy, I have one FR novel to finish, and two FR novels on their way. Plus, there's my wife to kill, Gilda to frame for it...I'm swamped. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2005 : 12:46:51
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Eric, why did Force Gray become the Gray Hands?
Have to say that "Force Grey" isnt a really good name for fantasy setting. When read force Grey it makes me think of naval groups or army taskforces from World War 2 |
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
1714 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2005 : 13:46:43
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I particularly like the way it builds on so much of the earlier stuff. I've seen repeated references to characters, places, and events that were first in Dragon articles, in addition to the stuff that was in Volo's Guide to Waterdeep and the City of Splendors boxed set (and we still don't know what happened to the Cliffwatch Inn? Interesante...).
Correction, Wooly--YOU don't know what happened to the Cliffwatch Inn.
Steven
Who wanders off, cackling madly while conspiring with voices in the air that sound suspiciously like Khelben, Maskar Wands, and Hilather of the Taarahaven Fields.... |
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
2067 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2005 : 14:05:10
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Eric, why did Force Gray become the Gray Hands?
WoTC decided that Force Grey felt inappropriate as a group name in the Realms and that Gray Hands was a more appropriate.
My bias is always towards consistency (to a fault), but if I was starting from scratch I would have definitely picked "Gray Hands."
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
2067 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2005 : 15:00:10
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Originally posted by The Sage
Were there any other specific changes made to those organisations presented in CoS... that is, from what we already know about them in the 2e material?
I'm not sure I understand the question, so correct me if I'm headed the wrong way here.
Ignoring 2e->3e mechanics and updates resulting from the passage of time, the change of the name from "Force Grey" to "Gray Hands" is the only deviation from canon that we made consciously (at least as far as I can remember). The feat I called "Hand of Tyr" didn't end up quite the way I envisioned (it started out as a way to explain that one-handed paladin of Tyr found in 2e CoS), but I think its a useful and well-balanced feat as written.
IMO, the name change isn't that big a deal ... lots of groups (like the Moonstars, for example) have lots of variant names. I'd simply treat Force Grey and Gray Hands as variant names for the same group.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36797 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2005 : 17:42:55
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Originally posted by Steven Schend
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I particularly like the way it builds on so much of the earlier stuff. I've seen repeated references to characters, places, and events that were first in Dragon articles, in addition to the stuff that was in Volo's Guide to Waterdeep and the City of Splendors boxed set (and we still don't know what happened to the Cliffwatch Inn? Interesante...).
Correction, Wooly--YOU don't know what happened to the Cliffwatch Inn.
Steven
Who wanders off, cackling madly while conspiring with voices in the air that sound suspiciously like Khelben, Maskar Wands, and Hilather of the Taarahaven Fields....
Okay, then, what happened to it?
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36797 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2005 : 17:49:39
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Eric, why did Force Gray become the Gray Hands?
WoTC decided that Force Grey felt inappropriate as a group name in the Realms and that Gray Hands was a more appropriate.
My bias is always towards consistency (to a fault), but if I was starting from scratch I would have definitely picked "Gray Hands."
--Eric
I figured it was likely something like that.
Another question: While I quite like the fact that Brianne was listed as a Lord, as was her late husband, I'm a little curious about why a couple of others weren't listed.
The other two are Asper and Deliah the White. Ed named Asper as a Lord in his short story in Realms of the Underdark, and Deliah the White was named as a Lord by Troy Denning in The Siege.
Any particular reason those two weren't listed as Lords? |
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
2067 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2005 : 18:33:23
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Any particular reason those two weren't listed as Lords?
Yeah, I missed the references. ;-)
Fortunately I left myself some wiggle room by including unnamed additional Lords.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36797 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2005 : 22:48:31
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Any particular reason those two weren't listed as Lords?
Yeah, I missed the references. ;-)
Fortunately I left myself some wiggle room by including unnamed additional Lords.
--Eric
I figured that's what it was. I only knew about the Asper reference because someone pointed it out to me when I was researching the Lords of Waterdeep. |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
1378 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2005 : 23:57:26
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Just wanted to post in here that I thought the new book was great. I think that Eric Boyd totally captured the mood and excitement that Waterdeep embodies. It has easily been one of my favorite FR tomes up to this date, but then again, I am a Waterdeep junkie at heart.
BTW, this is my first post, so... uh.. hello everyone!!!! |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36797 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jun 2005 : 00:54:13
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
Just wanted to post in here that I thought the new book was great. I think that Eric Boyd totally captured the mood and excitement that Waterdeep embodies. It has easily been one of my favorite FR tomes up to this date, but then again, I am a Waterdeep junkie at heart.
BTW, this is my first post, so... uh.. hello everyone!!!!
Welcome to Candlekeep!
I'm truly digging this tome, too. And I'm another Waterdeep junkie. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31726 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jun 2005 : 01:24:55
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
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Originally posted by The Sage
Were there any other specific changes made to those organisations presented in CoS... that is, from what we already know about them in the 2e material?
I'm not sure I understand the question, so correct me if I'm headed the wrong way here.
No, you answered my question Eric . Thanks.
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The feat I called "Hand of Tyr" didn't end up quite the way I envisioned (it started out as a way to explain that one-handed paladin of Tyr found in 2e CoS), but I think its a useful and well-balanced feat as written.
Did the feat change accidently during the design process? Or, did you simply decide to give it an alternate focus based on what you wanted to do with Tyr?
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jun 2005 : 12:52:22
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
Just wanted to post in here that I thought the new book was great. I think that Eric Boyd totally captured the mood and excitement that Waterdeep embodies. It has easily been one of my favorite FR tomes up to this date, but then again, I am a Waterdeep junkie at heart.
BTW, this is my first post, so... uh.. hello everyone!!!!
Welcome to Candlekeep. My player is one of the harshest critics of 3E/3.5E products that I've encountered and even she is enjoying this tome. So good job EB. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31726 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jun 2005 : 14:19:43
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
I think that Eric Boyd totally captured the mood and excitement that Waterdeep embodies.
No argument there. Eric definitely has an amazing ability to properly tap the atmosphere of the Realms in everything he writes.
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It has easily been one of my favorite FR tomes up to this date, but then again, I am a Waterdeep junkie at heart.
Even though I haven't received my copy yet, I just know I'm going to end up feeling the same way .
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BTW, this is my first post, so... uh.. hello everyone!!!!
Congratulations! And welcome to Candlekeep . I hope you enjoy your stay  .
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City of Splendors: Waterdeep sourcebook
