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Ardashir
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Posted - 08 Sep 2006 :  00:48:27  Show Profile  Visit Ardashir's Homepage Send Ardashir a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Just wondering -- am I wrong, or were the priestess of Loviatar mentioned in City of Splendors (Yolanda Shamat) and her patron, the aristocratic necromancer Lady Ellandra Tolbert not both described as characters in the old Complete Guide to Necromancers?

I could swear I remember them, as well as Kazerabet the Dark Angel and Corrupt Avenger Ysawib al-Tawis (from non-Realms book Heroes of Horror).

Dargoth
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Posted - 08 Sep 2006 :  00:57:37  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Its possible I remember that theres a short module in the book thats set in the FR and includes a Cleric of Loviator from Waterdeep

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Edited by - Dargoth on 08 Sep 2006 00:58:19
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The Sage
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Posted - 08 Sep 2006 :  01:07:51  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ardashir

Just wondering -- am I wrong, or were the priestess of Loviatar mentioned in City of Splendors (Yolanda Shamat) and her patron, the aristocratic necromancer Lady Ellandra Tolbert not both described as characters in the old Complete Guide to Necromancers?

I could swear I remember them, as well as Kazerabet the Dark Angel and Corrupt Avenger Ysawib al-Tawis (from non-Realms book Heroes of Horror).

Indeed, they all are.

Yolanda, Ellandra, Kazerabet, and al-Ysawis are all NPC necromancers from the 2e Complete Book of Necromancers.

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GothicDan
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Posted - 08 Sep 2006 :  01:52:37  Show Profile  Visit GothicDan's Homepage Send GothicDan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd just like to chime in and say that I remembered that too, Sage. *Proud.* ;)

I also absolutely love that book.

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The Sage
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As do I.

'Tis still a far better source on necromancers than almost anything I've seen on necromancers in 3e.

And it did wonders for my RL campaigns back in 1999.

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ericlboyd
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Posted - 08 Sep 2006 :  13:42:16  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yep. I never miss an opportunity to work an a reference to an old, obscure source of Realmslore. ;-)

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Ardashir
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Posted - 08 Sep 2006 :  15:52:02  Show Profile  Visit Ardashir's Homepage Send Ardashir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GothicDan

I'd just like to chime in and say that I remembered that too, Sage. *Proud.* ;)

I also absolutely love that book.



I loved it too, not least because it inspired me to buy a big Clark Ashton Smith collection from Arkham House. I still have the CAS book, but I've long since lost the Necromancers book, as well as almost everything else from the 2nd Ed. days. Forgotten Realms, Zakhara, Maztica, Kara-Tur... I got so desperate I had to sell them all. Now I just wish I'd gone hungry for a while.
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Ardashir
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Posted - 08 Sep 2006 :  16:49:56  Show Profile  Visit Ardashir's Homepage Send Ardashir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

Yep. I never miss an opportunity to work an a reference to an old, obscure source of Realmslore. ;-)

--Eric



And I like it.

I wonder if it was you, then, who wrote up the 'Company of the Cloak' in Powers of Faerun; the company of adventurers who specialized in killing other adventurers? I'm just asking because I recently glanced at the Old Grey Box and they list the company and its leader in the "Current Clack" section. And that was the only mention prior to PoF they ever had. Talk about obscure!
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ericlboyd
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quote:
Originally posted by Ardashir

quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

Yep. I never miss an opportunity to work an a reference to an old, obscure source of Realmslore. ;-)

--Eric



And I like it.

I wonder if it was you, then, who wrote up the 'Company of the Cloak' in Powers of Faerun; the company of adventurers who specialized in killing other adventurers? I'm just asking because I recently glanced at the Old Grey Box and they list the company and its leader in the "Current Clack" section. And that was the only mention prior to PoF they ever had. Talk about obscure!



Good catch. I suggested them to Ed and he wrote them up.

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Murray Leeder
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Posted - 09 Sep 2006 :  01:26:34  Show Profile  Visit Murray Leeder's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

Yep. I never miss an opportunity to work an a reference to an old, obscure source of Realmslore. ;-)

--Eric



That makes me wonder if you recognize this one -- two of the more obscure gods of the Realms would be named Khass and Isakkhu...
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Murray Leeder
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Posted - 13 Sep 2006 :  15:11:56  Show Profile  Visit Murray Leeder's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

Yep. I never miss an opportunity to work an a reference to an old, obscure source of Realmslore. ;-)

--Eric



That makes me wonder if you recognize this one -- two of the more obscure gods of the Realms would be named Khass and Isakkhu...



No takers? Both are mentioned briefly in the Complete Barbarian's Handbook as gods worshipped by barbarians in the Realms.
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ericlboyd
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Posted - 13 Sep 2006 :  16:30:10  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Murray Leeder
quote:
Originally posted by Murray Leeder

That makes me wonder if you recognize this one -- two of the more obscure gods of the Realms would be named Khass and Isakkhu...



No takers? Both are mentioned briefly in the Complete Barbarian's Handbook as gods worshipped by barbarians in the Realms.



Yikes. I missed the question (reading too fast), but I confess I didn't know about those two. Damn!

So, in this theme, who is Tulmara Zir Bharann and in what two products has she appeared?

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Edited by - ericlboyd on 13 Sep 2006 16:30:58
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Ardashir
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Posted - 13 Sep 2006 :  16:39:57  Show Profile  Visit Ardashir's Homepage Send Ardashir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

quote:
Originally posted by Murray Leeder
quote:
Originally posted by Murray Leeder

That makes me wonder if you recognize this one -- two of the more obscure gods of the Realms would be named Khass and Isakkhu...



No takers? Both are mentioned briefly in the Complete Barbarian's Handbook as gods worshipped by barbarians in the Realms.



Yikes. I missed the question (reading too fast), but I confess I didn't know about those two. Damn!

So, in this theme, who is Tulmara Zir Bharann and in what two products has she appeared?

--Eric



I'll bite. Who is she?
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The Sage
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Posted - 13 Sep 2006 :  16:52:58  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

quote:
Originally posted by Murray Leeder
quote:
Originally posted by Murray Leeder

That makes me wonder if you recognize this one -- two of the more obscure gods of the Realms would be named Khass and Isakkhu...



No takers? Both are mentioned briefly in the Complete Barbarian's Handbook as gods worshipped by barbarians in the Realms.



Yikes. I missed the question (reading too fast), but I confess I didn't know about those two. Damn!

So, in this theme, who is Tulmara Zir Bharann and in what two products has she appeared?

--Eric

As I recall, Tulmara is the Guildmaster of Thieves in Zazesspur. Sources:- Complete Thief's Handbook and Lands of Intrigue.

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