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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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 Posted - 01 Apr 2006 : 20:02:21
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
So, I saw a nigh-final draft (typeset) earlier this week. We found a few typos, so it had to go back to the typsetter one more time.
Hopeing to forestall all the "Faeruun" jokes ...
--Eric
As long as there's no listings for Ukta...   |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 01 Apr 2006 : 20:25:35
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
So, I saw a nigh-final draft (typeset) earlier this week. We found a few typos, so it had to go back to the typsetter one more time.
Hopeing to forestall all the "Faeruun" jokes ...
--Eric
Count me confused; is this a new typeset for CoS:W? |
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Brenigin
Learned Scribe
New Zealand
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Posted - 01 Apr 2006 : 20:58:45
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 01 Apr 2006 : 21:01:00
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Originally posted by Brenigin
No, they're talking about Eric's "Environs of Waterdeep" web enhancement that has been a loooooooooooooooong time getting to where it is supposed to be - on the WotC site - much to everyone's frustration.
Ah, okay. Good! More Realmslore is always good! |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 02 Apr 2006 : 02:03:21
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
So, I saw a nigh-final draft (typeset) earlier this week. We found a few typos, so it had to go back to the typsetter one more time.
Hopeing to forestall all the "Faeruun" jokes ...
--Eric
That's a relief... I still have players who are convinced that is the way Faerûn is supposed to be spelt  .
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
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Posted - 02 Apr 2006 : 08:17:32
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| Bah, we all know the ^ is just laziness, it's supposed to be Faerusn (as in hôpital, fenêtre, or hôtel), saith Kajehase who's been working on his French lately. |
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 10 Apr 2006 : 13:58:55
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To Eric or Ed (through THO):
I know this is a last minute question, as I would need the answer within the next 10 hours (i.e. I am DMing the next instalment of my campaign tonight, 7pm Eastern Time), so I will completely understand if this comes later, and will adapt my game accordingly.
Basically, I looked into the Law section of City of Splendors to find out what kind of sentences could result of the improper use of magic in the streets of Waterdeep. Basically, a chimera broke loose of a cage, which was part of a menagerie headed towards the Field of Triumph. Of course, the PCs stepped in front of the crowd to protect them. The wizard, not so much... and while staying behind the crowd, flung an ice storm at the chimera, aiming the best he could through the gaps offered by the moving crowd. Turns out that due to the poor visibility, he did not notice three circus folks surrounding the chimera from the other side, wielding long poking sticks. They froze to death when the maximized ice storm materialized on the chimera, them and the front part of a shop.
What would be the sentence for such an act, keeping in mind that dozens of witnesses gave statements to the City Watch, and keeping in mind that the menagerie owner did NOT press charge or complain against the PCs? |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 10 Apr 2006 : 14:12:32
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Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
To Eric or Ed (through THO):
I know this is a last minute question, as I would need the answer within the next 10 hours (i.e. I am DMing the next instalment of my campaign tonight, 7pm Eastern Time), so I will completely understand if this comes later, and will adapt my game accordingly.
Basically, I looked into the Law section of City of Splendors to find out what kind of sentences could result of the improper use of magic in the streets of Waterdeep. Basically, a chimera broke loose of a cage, which was part of a menagerie headed towards the Field of Triumph. Of course, the PCs stepped in front of the crowd to protect them. The wizard, not so much... and while staying behind the crowd, flung an ice storm at the chimera, aiming the best he could through the gaps offered by the moving crowd. Turns out that due to the poor visibility, he did not notice three circus folks surrounding the chimera from the other side, wielding long poking sticks. They froze to death when the maximized ice storm materialized on the chimera, them and the front part of a shop.
What would be the sentence for such an act, keeping in mind that dozens of witnesses gave statements to the City Watch, and keeping in mind that the menagerie owner did NOT press charge or complain against the PCs?
whipping out my old copy of Waterdeep and the North
Heres a couple ofoptions
Murder with Justification: Exiles from the city for up to 5 years or Enforced Hard Labour 3 years
Magical Assault: Fine of up to 1,000 gp AND Damages payable to "injured" party (in this case the cost of 3 raise dead spells) AND Edicted against Conviction public announcement declaring the convicted cant do something (In this case this would probably be "May not cast spells within Waterdeep"
There isnt a manslaughter punishment in the book the 2 punishments closest to what your situation are the above |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 10 Apr 2006 : 17:01:30
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Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
To Eric or Ed (through THO):
I know this is a last minute question, as I would need the answer within the next 10 hours (i.e. I am DMing the next instalment of my campaign tonight, 7pm Eastern Time), so I will completely understand if this comes later, and will adapt my game accordingly.
Basically, I looked into the Law section of City of Splendors to find out what kind of sentences could result of the improper use of magic in the streets of Waterdeep. Basically, a chimera broke loose of a cage, which was part of a menagerie headed towards the Field of Triumph. Of course, the PCs stepped in front of the crowd to protect them. The wizard, not so much... and while staying behind the crowd, flung an ice storm at the chimera, aiming the best he could through the gaps offered by the moving crowd. Turns out that due to the poor visibility, he did not notice three circus folks surrounding the chimera from the other side, wielding long poking sticks. They froze to death when the maximized ice storm materialized on the chimera, them and the front part of a shop.
What would be the sentence for such an act, keeping in mind that dozens of witnesses gave statements to the City Watch, and keeping in mind that the menagerie owner did NOT press charge or complain against the PCs?
I posted this in Ed's and Eric's thread for you as well, since it'll probably getting a faster reply there. |
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 10 Apr 2006 : 20:13:44
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Originally posted by Dargoth
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Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
To Eric or Ed (through THO):
I know this is a last minute question, as I would need the answer within the next 10 hours (i.e. I am DMing the next instalment of my campaign tonight, 7pm Eastern Time), so I will completely understand if this comes later, and will adapt my game accordingly.
Basically, I looked into the Law section of City of Splendors to find out what kind of sentences could result of the improper use of magic in the streets of Waterdeep. Basically, a chimera broke loose of a cage, which was part of a menagerie headed towards the Field of Triumph. Of course, the PCs stepped in front of the crowd to protect them. The wizard, not so much... and while staying behind the crowd, flung an ice storm at the chimera, aiming the best he could through the gaps offered by the moving crowd. Turns out that due to the poor visibility, he did not notice three circus folks surrounding the chimera from the other side, wielding long poking sticks. They froze to death when the maximized ice storm materialized on the chimera, them and the front part of a shop.
What would be the sentence for such an act, keeping in mind that dozens of witnesses gave statements to the City Watch, and keeping in mind that the menagerie owner did NOT press charge or complain against the PCs?
whipping out my old copy of Waterdeep and the North
Heres a couple ofoptions
Murder with Justification: Exiles from the city for up to 5 years or Enforced Hard Labour 3 years
Magical Assault: Fine of up to 1,000 gp AND Damages payable to "injured" party (in this case the cost of 3 raise dead spells) AND Edicted against Conviction public announcement declaring the convicted cant do something (In this case this would probably be "May not cast spells within Waterdeep"
There isnt a manslaughter punishment in the book the 2 punishments closest to what your situation are the above
Many thanks, Dargoth!
I will opt for the "magical assault" sentence. "Damages Payable" of the cost of 3 raise dead spells is perhaps debatable, however, as "Damages" are highly relative depending on whom has been damaged... in this case, I would argue that the menagerie owner suffered damages (dead, highly valuable chimera, which he owned in full, PLUS loss of profit due to sudden lack of manpower PLUS cost of rehiring new staff). The menagerie isn't local, therefore family and friends of the deceased have no recourse within Waterdeep, as far as I know, to sue the PCs (if anything along these lines could be done!) Perhaps if the PCs visit the homelands of the deceased, then they could face the legal wrath of the families, otherwise...
What say you?
Other than that, 1000gp + no casting within Waterdeep sounds very, very delectable for this DM!!!
NOTE: the PCs sought the menagerie owner afterwards, and donated 50gp per deceased to be passed down to their families...  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 10 Apr 2006 : 21:53:47
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| The menagerie owner should be partially responsible, since it was his critter that got loose. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 10 Apr 2006 : 22:31:54
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
The menagerie owner should be partially responsible, since it was his critter that got loose.
The Waterdeep Judicial system doesnt seem to have a punishment for negiligent Assault or Homocide |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 10 Apr 2006 : 22:49:00
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Here's Ed's answer btw. :)
"Ed Comes Through!
Kuje, please forward this to Purple Dragon Knight, hot off Ed's keyboard:
Sentencing depends on Pc's contrition (or lack thereof) in court. Here's the best possible outcome: guilty on three counts of Murder With Justification, and three counts of Magical Assault. Result: exile from Waterdeep for 10 years total for the first three, and damages of 2000 gp payable by the PC wizard to the kin/survivors of the three dead circus folk (payable to the circus in lieu, if no kin or can't easily be found). So, 2000 times three. If the PC can't pay, forfeiture of all goods to kin (failing that: circus), plus a year of (supervised)spellcasting in service to Waterdeep (in effect, PC becomes unpaid employee/servant, does some adventuring/monster cleanup in Undermountain, and casts spells for coin, coin then turned over to kin/circus (full year, coin in excess of 2000 each is considered interest on delayed payment of court fine).
If PC behaves just right, impresses Palace official, can be parlayed into real job (rest of PCs allowed to tag along IF they behave).
Good luck!
Ed
And there you have it. More Realmslore as usual, later . . .
love to all,
THO" |
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1796 Posts |
Posted - 10 Apr 2006 : 23:35:43
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My faith in the THO-Ed symbiotic partnership is now unshakeable.
Ed, THO, sorry, but this will be totally uncool but...: YOU ROCK!
Edit: Kuje, I almost forgot... thank you VERY MUCH for the assistance!  |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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7915 Posts |
Posted - 10 Apr 2006 : 23:40:10
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| No prob, PDK. Enjoy. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 30 Apr 2006 : 06:12:27
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Well its the 30th of April and Ive got a question for my fellow Candlekeep Scribes: Which of the following do you think will happan first
Police will find Jimmy Hoffa's body
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WOTC will post the 2nd CoS WE up on their site?
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 30 Apr 2006 : 06:18:51
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 30 Apr 2006 : 07:39:13
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Well its the 30th of April and Ive got a question for my fellow Candlekeep Scribes: Which of the following do you think will happan first
Police will find Jimmy Hoffa's body
or
WOTC will post the 2nd CoS WE up on their site?
You know what... my birthday's on Tuesday. So here's an ideal opportunity for WotC to deliver a great birthday present for me. ::hint hint::
::snicker::
C'mon Wizards...  .
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Dhomal
Senior Scribe
USA
565 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2006 : 02:12:11
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Well its the 30th of April and Ive got a question for my fellow Candlekeep Scribes: Which of the following do you think will happan first
Police will find Jimmy Hoffa's body
or
WOTC will post the 2nd CoS WE up on their site?
Hello-
I think - quite possibly - it may be at the same time. :) I think Hoffa picked up the only copy of them just before he disappeared - as he needed some paper for somthing - and tucked it into his pocket. He just did not realize that they were *special* papers - and that a rae space-time disturbance had just landed them on his desk.
In all honesty - I wonder if they are waiting because of tie-ins with Blackstaff........
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 01 May 2006 : 04:54:45
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Originally posted by Dhomal
In all honesty - I wonder if they are waiting because of tie-ins with Blackstaff........
Dhomal
So your saying its all Steve's fault......... |
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
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Alaundo
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36797 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2006 : 20:25:55
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Originally posted by Alaundo
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
Maybe we should start a pool. My guess is May 3rd.
--Eric
Well met
...which would be perfect, being my birthday 'n' all
Wow, you can still remember your birthday? I thought that you'd have forgotten it decades ago...  |
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
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Posted - 01 May 2006 : 23:05:54
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Alaundo
Well met
...which would be perfect, being my birthday 'n' all
Wow, you can still remember your birthday? I thought that you'd have forgotten it decades ago...
Well met
Oh no, my furry friend... i'd ne'er forget my birthday and month. 'tis only my age which I don't recall |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 01 May 2006 : 23:15:31
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Originally posted by Alaundo
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Alaundo
Well met
...which would be perfect, being my birthday 'n' all
Wow, you can still remember your birthday? I thought that you'd have forgotten it decades ago...
Well met
Oh no, my furry friend... i'd ne'er forget my birthday and month. 'tis only my age which I don't recall
The Roll of Years prolly doesn't go back that far. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 01 May 2006 : 23:16:21
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Originally posted by Alaundo
'tis only my age which I don't recall
I thought that ability was only posessed by the Female of Species! |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 02 May 2006 : 01:40:43
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Originally posted by Alaundo
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
Maybe we should start a pool. My guess is May 3rd.
--Eric
Well met
...which would be perfect, being my birthday 'n' all
I'm still hoping for today!
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Alaundo
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Faraer
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Posted - 03 May 2006 : 08:28:06
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Happy birthday!
Maybe the web team is going for CoS:W's anniversary. |
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City of Splendors: Waterdeep sourcebook
