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Dark_Lord
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Posted - 22 Jan 2003 :  18:23:06  Show Profile Send Dark_Lord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Artalis

quote:
Originally posted by Dark_Lord

Hush you donkeys! Undead are supreme by all standards.



Undeath is a condition not a racial type. One must be something else first and then become undead thru some sort of spell or curse.

I am sure you know this, however I find it ironic and not a little amusing that you tell us to "Hush" and call us "donkeys" as you post an answer which is clearly in error.

I would also like to point out that everyone else manages to post without name-calling or insults (even feigned ones) I believe I speak for the majority of the scribes here when I say it degrades the intellectual relevance of the topic when posts like that are added.

Just MHO (well perhaps not so H).








but I'm only trying to role play big bad villain.
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Artalis
Senior Scribe

USA
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Posted - 23 Jan 2003 :  02:46:39  Show Profile Send Artalis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:

but I'm only trying to role play big bad villain.



I am all in favor of roleplaying (believe me I have been one of the most incorrigible in that regard) but I would encourage you to try to avoid insulting or inflammatory posts. If you could just make sure those posts contain some useful or relevant information and/or serve some constructive purpose, I don't think it would have been a sore point even with the role-played insults. Just a friendly suggestion.

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The Great Drizzt
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USA
280 Posts

Posted - 23 Jan 2003 :  08:01:09  Show Profile  Visit The Great Drizzt's Homepage Send The Great Drizzt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Drow are the best race, I believe I've already mentioned why.
So why is this topic still going when we all know the answer?
The Great Drizzt

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Salius Kai
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USA
217 Posts

Posted - 23 Jan 2003 :  20:21:43  Show Profile  Visit Salius Kai's Homepage Send Salius Kai a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Origianally Posted BYThe Great Drizzt
Drow are the best race, I believe I've already mentioned why.
So why is this topic still going when we all know the answer?
The Great Drizzt


This might just be me, but I beleive its still going so that other people might have a turn to voice their own opinions.

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Feanor_Karnil
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Posted - 24 Jan 2003 :  18:16:52  Show Profile  Visit Feanor_Karnil's Homepage Send Feanor_Karnil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Drow are a very powerful race but probably one of the lesser balanced races. Like, they live underground in the dark they are mostly all power(they are powerful because of their skill) but other than that they have nothing going for them. They are not welcome on the surface even the surface drow are neglected from alot of cities(ex. Drizzt). I think the surface elves have it better.

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Trafaldi
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Posted - 27 Jan 2003 :  16:02:17  Show Profile  Visit Trafaldi's Homepage Send Trafaldi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would have to say that half-elves are the best because they have the best of the elves in them but don't have their disabilitys such as their -2 to constitution and +2 to dexterity they have even stats like humans. And because of the elven blood they can wield elven weapons.

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Kitira Gildragon
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Posted - 27 Jan 2003 :  16:34:18  Show Profile  Visit Kitira Gildragon's Homepage Send Kitira Gildragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dragons and Half-elves.
I like dragons because:
1) Old age- think of all the knowledge you'd have after being around
1000 years
2) Flying
3) Shapeshift into a human form
4) can work with many different races
5) big teeth/claws
6) magic comes with the territory

Half-elves:

Other than the fact that I look like a half elf...
1) they can wield weapons from both races
2) they have medium life spans
3) they have an affinity for nature
4) not too tall, not too short
5) ATTITUDE!

-Space for rent-
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Ranaghar Tsaran
Learned Scribe

Poland
133 Posts

Posted - 27 Jan 2003 :  19:32:17  Show Profile  Visit Ranaghar Tsaran's Homepage Send Ranaghar Tsaran a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I love elves!!!They are the best, becauseof they're magic, charisma, apperance, and skills...and they love nature, just like I do

"Do not be afraid of greatness. Some achieve greatness, some are born great, and some have greatness thrust upon them..."
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Milythar Sylavin
Acolyte

Poland
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Posted - 05 Feb 2003 :  20:24:10  Show Profile  Visit Milythar Sylavin's Homepage Send Milythar Sylavin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Orginally posted by Ranaghar Tsaran
I love elves!!!They are the best, because of they're magic, charisma, apperance, and skills...and they love nature, just like I do

Don't forget the dragons!
Fairies are my type, then I don't remind you of them.

Mielikki no egleria; he echad pan levain gelir.
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Jalfrez
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USA
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Posted - 22 Feb 2003 :  22:10:04  Show Profile  Visit Jalfrez's Homepage Send Jalfrez a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Drow , suface elves,and dwarfs are my favorite.

Millike for all
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sushisauce
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50 Posts

Posted - 24 Feb 2003 :  01:38:55  Show Profile  Visit sushisauce's Homepage Send sushisauce a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have already posted it somewhere in this mess but I 've changed my mind....

dragons are cool but half-elves are better

Normal is what we choose it to be.
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king-tiax
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327 Posts

Posted - 04 Mar 2003 :  20:25:40  Show Profile  Visit king-tiax's Homepage Send king-tiax a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wow, this topic realy has perked up since I last was here, It's good, keep it up.

My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.

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Salius Kai
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USA
217 Posts

Posted - 05 Mar 2003 :  02:05:44  Show Profile  Visit Salius Kai's Homepage Send Salius Kai a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And will you be joining again Tiax, or just checking in?

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Salius Kai
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Malice
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Posted - 14 May 2003 :  16:54:41  Show Profile  Visit Malice's Homepage Send Malice a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Isn't is obvious that the DROW are the best race? I mean, ...well, in my opinion; the whole way of life is just really amazing. I admire them for the strength it takes to live like that, yes?

"Khaless? Ha. Vel'bol zhah nindol 'khaless' dos telanth? d'usstan zhaun ol naut."
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Cult_Leader
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Posted - 23 May 2003 :  16:28:59  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Leader's Homepage Send Cult_Leader a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Malice

Isn't is obvious that the DROW are the best race? I mean, ...well, in my opinion; the whole way of life is just really amazing. I admire them for the strength it takes to live like that, yes?




I dont see strength in living like that. Its basically something that they are born into. If you were born into a life like that then you would probably be the same. Im not making an attack on you so please do not think that I am. Im just staing that thats not really strength. Its just them living the way they have known to live. If they had strength they probably wouldnt be underground... and never would have been turned evil

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Malice
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USA
83 Posts

Posted - 27 May 2003 :  15:01:03  Show Profile  Visit Malice's Homepage Send Malice a Private Message  Reply with Quote
:ponders this for a moment: Ah, yes, that makes sense. No offense taken. you're right.

"Khaless? Ha. Vel'bol zhah nindol 'khaless' dos telanth? d'usstan zhaun ol naut."
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The Sage
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Australia
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Posted - 27 May 2003 :  15:13:57  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have been finding myself gravitating towards dwarven PC's lately, and I really can't explain it other than the fact, that I have always wanted to play a dwarf, but have had little opportunity, since I DM regularly and only role-play NPC dwarves.

But for a favorite or 'best' race I would have to say Elves - any subspecies - it doesn't matter, they're all good.




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Jaysen Darclyght
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Posted - 28 Oct 2003 :  16:52:06  Show Profile  Visit Jaysen Darclyght's Homepage Send Jaysen Darclyght a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No one seems to enjoy humans as the best race.

I am a fan of humans, let me list the reasons why.
1. They multiply like rabbits.
2. Because they multiply like rabbits, they can have huge armies.
3. They speak common, and common is good.
4. They have no religious preferences.
5. There is a lot of them.
6. Given the chance, they would pick up on more powerful weapons and conquer vast streches of land.
7. Most named kingdoms are mostly human.
8. Finally, humans multiply like rabbits. What red-blooded male can't enjoy that concept? (If somehow i insult someone with this, forgive me, it isn't intentional).

Those are the reasons why humans are the best.
Some reasons why the other races aren't the best.
1. Elves are mostly green freaks.
2. Drow fight amongst themselves foolishly.
3. Dwarves drink too much (though there really isn't anything wrong with that.)
4. Halflings are weak.
5. Gnomes can make anything reliable.
6. Dragons are beasts to be feared.
7. Hybrids are in a class of their own, so their decent, but sometimes annoying.
8. Undead, savage humaniods, goblinoids, giants, etc. Are all ugly.

See? Humans are obviously better.
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Lina
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Posted - 04 Nov 2003 :  11:11:30  Show Profile  Visit Lina's Homepage Send Lina a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like elves, there soo pretty :)
and that fact that they live longer means they have more time to do things.

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Bayne
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86 Posts

Posted - 04 Nov 2003 :  12:41:19  Show Profile  Visit Bayne's Homepage Send Bayne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Solmyr

I don't really like drows, they are a little to evil for me :P

With each post i grow wiser and with added wisdom I grow stronger.


But just perfect for me...
They appeal to the dark side.
Which has grown considerable lately due to personal events.

Nindyn vel'uss kyorl nind ratha thalra elyhinn dal lil alust
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Bayne
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Posted - 04 Nov 2003 :  12:47:38  Show Profile  Visit Bayne's Homepage Send Bayne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by king-tiax

No!

You can't honistly say the Drow are magic, enven I a comited Dwarf know that Evles could beat there darker conterperds.


No, they really couldn't, take a look at the first elven village that was slaughtered in the surface raid in the dark elf trilogy books.

Nindyn vel'uss kyorl nind ratha thalra elyhinn dal lil alust
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Bayne
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Posted - 04 Nov 2003 :  13:08:41  Show Profile  Visit Bayne's Homepage Send Bayne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Drummer Boy

quote:
Originally posted by Artalis

I suppose it comes down to the question of what you mean by "best". I generally feel that the best race is the one that lends itself to your style of roleplaying and makes it a natural process and "feels right" as it were.

Going by that definition the answer would be different for everyone.

If by "best" we mean most powerful then that's a whole different set of criteria and Drizz't is possibly right. (Lolth is still in insane witch who preys on her own children though IMHO )

I personally choose the elves because their rich history, their close ties with magic and their elegance and beauty appeal to me. The elves tend to treat everything as an art unto itself, that is something I agree with.







Ok, I see what you meant then. My point was just that drow aren't all-powerful. They have disadvantages just like every other race.

As for Lloth, I think we all agree that she is mean and evil and all that stuff.

However, I kind of dislike elves because some of them (not all of them, of course) think that they are better than all the other races and seem to be somewhat racist. For example, only elves are allowed in Evermeet (I think so, but I could be wrong).

To Drizzt: It's an honor to be your "back-up singer". You have some good points that I didn't think of like how drow can't take their magical weapons and armor to the surface and how they are shunned, of course. Also, drow lose some of their powers if they go to the surface for too long, don't they? Drizzt lost his powers of levitation when he went to the surface anyway.


My dm told me that drow didnt have that power (According to second edition book)...did i get jipped?

Nindyn vel'uss kyorl nind ratha thalra elyhinn dal lil alust
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Bayne
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Posted - 04 Nov 2003 :  13:15:36  Show Profile  Visit Bayne's Homepage Send Bayne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Feanor_Karnil

Drow are a powerful race maybe an ultimate race but they are lower than dirt in charisma. That is their only downfall.
Regarding the elves, their age ranges from race to race they do not live for thousands of years nor are they immortal. Some elves life span stretches about to a little over one thousand years.
But back to the original topic, Moon Elves are the best race.


-Feanor Karnil The Moon-Star


you are correct indeed...my character has a charisma of six...pathetic eh?, and by the by, we have, indeed, reached and gone above the ten page mark

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Trafaldi
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Posted - 04 Nov 2003 :  13:28:12  Show Profile  Visit Trafaldi's Homepage Send Trafaldi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Since the Races of Faerun is out we should have a different opinion after seeing the statistics for more races. I quite enjoy the Fey'ri there preferred class is sorcerer but i think that they make better thieves, because of the alterself spell.

Some believe there is something more after death, if you really want to find out... go kill yourself and stop pestering me.
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Cyric
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Norway
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Posted - 04 Nov 2003 :  18:53:25  Show Profile  Visit Cyric's Homepage Send Cyric a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Humans rule suprem
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William of Waterdeep
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USA
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Posted - 04 Nov 2003 :  20:00:20  Show Profile  Visit William of Waterdeep's Homepage Send William of Waterdeep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bayne

quote:
Originally posted by king-tiax

No!

You can't honistly say the Drow are magic, enven I a comited Dwarf know that Evles could beat there darker conterperds.


No, they really couldn't, take a look at the first elven village that was slaughtered in the surface raid in the dark elf trilogy books.




That is an unfair example and you know it!!!....They were caught by surprise and unarmed,read the details.Come on Bayne,you can do better than that.

Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.



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Bayne
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Posted - 04 Nov 2003 :  22:17:37  Show Profile  Visit Bayne's Homepage Send Bayne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by William of Waterdeep

quote:
Originally posted by Bayne

quote:
Originally posted by king-tiax

No!

You can't honistly say the Drow are magic, enven I a comited Dwarf know that Evles could beat there darker conterperds.


No, they really couldn't, take a look at the first elven village that was slaughtered in the surface raid in the dark elf trilogy books.




That is an unfair example and you know it!!!....They were caught by surprise and unarmed,read the details.Come on Bayne,you can do better than that.


I know the details, and good point, but think of this:
Were it the other way around, how likely do you think it would be that the Drow would be caught unawares?

Nindyn vel'uss kyorl nind ratha thalra elyhinn dal lil alust
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Arivia
Great Reader

Canada
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Posted - 05 Nov 2003 :  02:39:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Depends upon the environment. If the drow are down in the Underdark, they're simply not going to be caught unaware, as you need to be continually watching in the Underdark(read Exile for some examples).
But, the drow are mostly fish out of water outside of forests in the above world, and generally only Eilistraee and Vhaeraun worshippers.
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William of Waterdeep
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Posted - 05 Nov 2003 :  03:48:28  Show Profile  Visit William of Waterdeep's Homepage Send William of Waterdeep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I may be wrong but I think that was a special situation that Salvatore set up for the drow to surprise the Elves.Besides there are many sub-races of elves and no one race is superior as they all have strengths and weakness just as we do,thats why you need a balanced party for adventuring.

Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.



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The Cardinal
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Posted - 05 Nov 2003 :  11:26:58  Show Profile  Visit The Cardinal's Homepage Send The Cardinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Personally, I'm partial to Half-fiends and Tieflings but As for the Drow vs. some other elven race....hhhmmmm
To tell the truth it's a toss up that depends more on Tymora and Beshaba, than magic or battle prowess. If both parties are not caught unaware,...hmmm... I would say that the drow would slaughter them... IF they can get it together and avoid deciding that some of their fellows 'fall in the confusion of battle'. They're just too teacherous to trust...
As for Lolth, I disagree! (Surprised? I thought not) She is not Evil or mean, just misunderstood and 'acting out'. She does (after all) care for her race... in a cruel and comedic way, but cares none the less. Since if there was no one left alive to worship her, she would follow poor Amunator into the Astral plane... to die...


It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
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