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Mask
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 03 Oct 2002 : 11:54:58
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| Is Menzoberranzan actually the biggest town, or is it just the most known drow-city? |
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 08 Oct 2002 : 07:53:51
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Menzoberanzen is the largest Drow city known, and Eryndyln is the second largest to my knowlege, and I must say I know quite alot about Drow and their cities I must say(I think).
The Great Drizzt |
"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1 |
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 08 Oct 2002 : 13:50:43
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| I can imagin you can Drizzt, You da drow. |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 12 Oct 2002 : 08:15:56
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Word Dwarfey, and I'm sure you know a whole lot more about Dwarves than I do, I should introduce you to my brother, he's obsessed with dwarves, just like you, he's more of a Dragonlance guy though, oh well, a Dwarf is a dwarf I always say!
The Great Drizzt |
"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1 |
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 12 Oct 2002 : 11:36:26
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| Year, it would be cool to meet him, whats his I.D. ow by the way there is a friend of mine I want you to meet, I'll Email you some time. |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 14 Oct 2002 : 07:39:38
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Ok, sounds like a plan to me, I'll tell my brother to E-mail you sometime, I really don't wanna get involved with "Dwarf Talk"!
The Great Drizzt |
"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1 |
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 14 Oct 2002 : 20:44:05
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| Yes, I would like to speek with him, but I'll arange you to have a talk with Lord Trikketh, he's one of my closest friends(don't worry, he's not Dwarvish). |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2002 : 08:14:26
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LOL, cool tiax, drop me a line sometime, or have him do it too.
The Great Drizzt |
"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1 |
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2002 : 20:13:23
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| Will do, I'll tell him next time I see him. |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2002 : 07:36:16
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Well, to get back on topic,
ELVEN STRONGHOLD
End of topic I guess!
The Great Drizzt |
"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1 |
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2002 : 13:22:11
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| Yes, they sound unbeatable, the strength of Dwarves matched with the Magic of Elves. I mean runes are one thing, but can you imagin a Dwarf with magic. |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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Drummer Boy
Senior Scribe
USA
395 Posts |
Posted - 22 Oct 2002 : 03:40:34
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Anyway, back to the topic. The only major dwarven and elven establishments I have encountered are The Severed Hand(a.k.a. the Hand of the Seldarine and the Shattered Hand) and Dorns Deep when I was playing the Icewind Dale computer RPG. Out of those two, I'd have to say I like the Severed Hand better. But then again, both of them had seen better days. |
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 22 Oct 2002 : 07:45:29
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I don't even know if one can compare the two to a point where one would be better then the other. So far the discussion has been mainly colored by personal opinions/favoritism, not by facts. (agree, kinda difficult to come up with facts in a fantasy world  )
If one takes a look at the pinnacles of Elven and Dwarven cities, then both of those are in ruins. The ancient dwarven empire of Shanatar (located under present-day Tethyr, Amn and Calimshan) and of course well known Myth Drannor. Both fell due to political infighting and schisms between clans/families (amongst other things).
I don't think it is really possible to say which one is the best, both have their strong and weak points in different situations. If it comes down to personal favorite, I would go for the dwarven cities, just because of affinity with the stout folk. |
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 22 Oct 2002 : 08:57:35
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What you say is very true.
But, I myself like the Elven folk, especially the Drow
The Great Drizzt |
"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1 |
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Frey
Learned Scribe
130 Posts |
Posted - 22 Oct 2002 : 12:33:46
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The beauty of a dwarven deep dolven city ... The beauty of an elven stronghold ...
A suggestion: (re)read LOtR (I know, it's not FR, but it's good), where this discussion leads to new perspectives for both elves AND dwarves, for the benifit of both races.
IMHO there's little to add after that. |
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Shades
Acolyte
Georgia
39 Posts |
Posted - 22 Oct 2002 : 19:05:16
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| Wasn't Myth Drannor built by a collection of races,though mainly elves, because I think something I read said dwarves also had a hand in helping build it. Correct me if I'm wrong please. |
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 24 Oct 2002 : 06:53:26
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Ok, from what I know, First it was called Cormanthor, and only Elves, and Elminster lived there, and when the Mythal was completed, they allowed everyone else into it and changed it's name to Myth Drannor, so when it WAS called Myth Drannor, all the races were in there, so technically, not only Elves created Myth Drannor, but the Elves, and only Elves besides Elminster, created Cormanthor, to bad Myth Drannor fell, but it was the fact that they let everyone else in there, well, that and the fact that a gateway to the Abyss opened up right outside the city gates, and the city was over run, looted, and then destroyed.
The Great Drizzt |
"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1 |
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Darwin Tenderfoot
Seeker
USA
57 Posts |
Posted - 24 Oct 2002 : 12:43:05
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I thought that Cormanther was different than Myth Drannor and yes some Dwarves did help build it. If you want to know a little more on Myth Drannor just read "Pool of Radiance"(the new one.) And I guess if Cormanther and Myth Drannor are the same then you could read "Cormanther: a novel". Oh, my favorite settelment would have to be Mithral Hall. Elven would have to be Evermeet(spelling?).
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 24 Oct 2002 : 22:10:39
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| A Dwarf is capable of disguising himself to great affect, they do also th there strongholds. |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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Jeffrey Williams
Acolyte
USA
45 Posts |
Posted - 24 Oct 2002 : 23:33:07
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[quote]Originally posted by king-tiax
In my time in faerun I have Travled the lands and I can't decide what is the best location a hevily armed Dwarven Mine like Dorns Deep or an hidden Elven Citey like Suldernesalar.
Hurmff! Spoken like a true northern dwarf. A dwarven paper merchant (with a thick dalesland accent) was kind enough to supply me with a travel brochure and a sparkling green gemstones. I felt a strange energy and moments later I was inside a great canyon rift called Dwarves' Deep. Although the brochure, a second edition Forgotten Realms accessory, was deeply detailed it failed to illustrate my strong and recenntly adpoted dwarven brethern. If you ever get a chance to check out Dwarves' Deep or find a second-hand copy, do so. It is the best dwarven settlement anywhere on Faerun.
I can say I don't like Elves or Drow that much. Personally, they are arrogant on one extreme and cruel on the other. But my favorite city is Myth Drannor. It is a detailed city/dungeon with horrors, forgotten treasures, and the remnants of beauty long lost. 
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2002 : 06:34:11
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 ....How can you not like us Fey folk? We rule, and in the book "Elminster in Myth Drannor", it says that it was all Elves, Elminster, the Shrinshee, and some of their "Chosen Protectors" so maybe your right, there might have been a Dwarf or 2 in the "Protectors", though it seems very hard to swallow, they didnt even want Elminster helping, plus the fact that dwarves arent very accomplished mages to my knolage, so thats also a key factor why I don't think any Dwarves helped, Illogical, but not impossible!
The Great Drizzt |
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2002 : 19:00:55
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| Year, Elves are resoursful (especialy Drow), perhaps they could have managed without my people. |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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sushisauce
Seeker
USA
50 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2002 : 22:15:10
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| Elven city. Dwarven strongholds are ugly but they work. Still, elven cities are cool and easily defendable. I'd rather be stuck in an elven citie during a battle than a dwarven stronghold. |
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Jeffrey Williams
Acolyte
USA
45 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2002 : 06:53:59
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Originally posted by The Great Drizzt
....How can you not like us Fey folk? We rule, and in the book "Elminster in Myth Drannor", it says that it was all Elves, Elminster, the Shrinshee, and some of their "Chosen Protectors" so... <snip>
Myth Drannor is the reason why elves should not rule. Arrogance in their own superiority blinded them to enemies that wait in the shadows.
Elves at their worse are arrogant, distrustful of all non-elves and they refuse to clean up the mess they make. They delegate such "duties" to non-elves. This makes them perfect xenophobes and racists. This is why I do not play standard elves in the D&D game. 
I like dwarves. They have good homes, low in height by human standards, but they make a good lodger and strong beer. 
King-tiax, I'd liek to come to your house. 
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devilboy@anv.net
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 29 Oct 2002 : 07:16:21
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Elves should rule, and they cant be as bad as you say, or else they wouldnt be around still.
You might wanna re-think the thought of going over to Tiax's house, its probably built like a Dwarven Stronghold! lol j/k Tiax
The Great Drizzt |
"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1 |
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Darwin Tenderfoot
Seeker
USA
57 Posts |
Posted - 03 Nov 2002 : 21:25:51
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Jefferey Williams I respectfully disagree whith your opinion. You are basing all Elves on the few that are like that and I personally dont think that is right.
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2002 : 08:14:08
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I agree whole heartedly Darwin
The Great Drizzt |
"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1 |
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The Defence Minister
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
218 Posts |
Posted - 14 Nov 2002 : 20:12:23
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LOL God some of these threads go off topic .
I have to vote Dwarven Stronghold. Airy-Fairy Magical cities just don't do it for me (I have not interest in Waterdeep). I like the down to earth rock solid Dwarven defences and artillary.
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 18 Nov 2002 : 08:31:43
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Well, if you could spell DEFENSE right, then maybe you might have a valid point!
The Great Drizzt |
"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1 |
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The Defence Minister
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
218 Posts |
Posted - 18 Nov 2002 : 17:40:03
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Actually DEFENCE is the corret spelling (according to every dictionary in my house) and DEFENSE is the US Slang - so my opinion is valid
TDM |
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Which is best a Dwarven stronghold or Elven city
