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Sarelle
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Posted - 18 Jun 2004 :  18:04:49  Show Profile Send Sarelle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That was the thread I was looking for earlier, Faraer. I was searching for 'magic of the realms' rather than 'Volo's Guide to All Things Magical II', though.

Thanks for posting.

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Reefy
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Posted - 21 Jun 2004 :  15:18:46  Show Profile  Visit Reefy's Homepage Send Reefy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For a regional product, I'd like to see the Lake of Steam and Border Kingdoms.
For a miscellaneous product, something on fey or the good/neutral organisations version of Lords of Darkness. I like Faraer's idea of a book on adventuring too.

Life is either daring adventure or nothing.
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Bahgtru
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Posted - 30 Aug 2004 :  21:45:52  Show Profile  Visit Bahgtru's Homepage Send Bahgtru a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
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Madeiron Sunderstone's Treatise on Blades and Bludgeons




Where can I find info on Madeiron outside of the 2ed Waterdeep Supplement? Is there any 3ed stuff on him or does he appear anywhere else or in any novels?
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Wood Elf Ranger
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USA
627 Posts

Posted - 30 Aug 2004 :  22:49:10  Show Profile  Visit Wood Elf Ranger's Homepage Send Wood Elf Ranger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My Wish List

Regeonal product: The Outer Sea
A tome detailing all of the aquatic races and monsters, their cities, lifestyles, items, etc.

Misc product: Lords of Righteousness (the opposite of the Lords of Darkness tome)
Information on all of the "righteous" organizations in Faerun. Such as the Moonstars, Harpers, Lord's Alliance, etc.


~Lee N.

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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 31 Aug 2004 :  00:46:26  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wood Elf Ranger

My Wish List

Regeonal product: The Outer Sea
A tome detailing all of the aquatic races and monsters, their cities, lifestyles, items, etc.

Misc product: Lords of Righteousness (the opposite of the Lords of Darkness tome)
Information on all of the "righteous" organizations in Faerun. Such as the Moonstars, Harpers, Lord's Alliance, etc.





The Harpers had their own sourcebook under 2E... And another 2E sourcebook, Cloak & Dagger, covered the Moonstars.

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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

Australia
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Posted - 31 Aug 2004 :  03:19:32  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wood Elf Ranger

My Wish List

Regeonal product: The Outer Sea
A tome detailing all of the aquatic races and monsters, their cities, lifestyles, items, etc.

I'll second that.

This is one area of the Realmslore that I've always felt has been left undeveloped. Sure we've had several adventures and a few sourcebooks about the Inner Sea area, but there's been virtually no source material that establishes outright, or expands upon the existing source material that details, the Trackless Sea, nor the Shining Sea.

It's something I would one day like to see rectified.

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Talwyn
Learned Scribe

Australia
222 Posts

Posted - 31 Aug 2004 :  04:42:02  Show Profile  Visit Talwyn's Homepage Send Talwyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My wish list is to see some product that has a great deal of detail on the Talons of Justice! In the 2ndEd Draconomicon we were only given a few paragraphs of information about what could be one of THE most powerful Lawful Good secrect organisations in the realms.
It's always the Harpers that get the good press
bunch of interfering hapless jokes if you ask me!
Anyway, they should be at least a module or novel (maybe I'll have to write it myself?) that deals with this Order of Dragons.

Over the centuries, mankind has tried many ways of combating the forces of evil...prayer, fasting, good works and so on.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

Australia
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Posted - 31 Aug 2004 :  10:04:13  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Talwyn
...that has a great deal of detail on the Talons of Justice! In the 2ndEd Draconomicon we were only given a few paragraphs of information about what could be one of THE most powerful Lawful Good secrect organisations in the realms.


Hmmm...

Didn't someone over at Worlds ask me to post the unofficial information that I have on the Talons, here at Candlekeep...?

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Talwyn
Learned Scribe

Australia
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Posted - 31 Aug 2004 :  10:10:14  Show Profile  Visit Talwyn's Homepage Send Talwyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
umm that would have been me sage, if you could please send it to my email address which is in my character profile, I'd be very grateful.
Hell I'll even by you a beer at the pub of your choice when I get back from Derby to Perth in November if you'd like?

Over the centuries, mankind has tried many ways of combating the forces of evil...prayer, fasting, good works and so on.
Up until Doom, no one seemed to have thought about the double-barrel shotgun.
EAT LEADEN DEATH DEMON!
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

Australia
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Posted - 31 Aug 2004 :  10:16:04  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'll see about sending the file your way then, Talwyn . Then, I'll send it along with my other updates for Alaundo to include on the main site.

Oh and, I gladly accept your offer, but I'm afraid that I don't drink alcohol... Perhaps we can meet for some tea?

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Talwyn
Learned Scribe

Australia
222 Posts

Posted - 31 Aug 2004 :  13:00:32  Show Profile  Visit Talwyn's Homepage Send Talwyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ceratinly my dear fellow, what ever you enjoy I'd be happy to provide.


Over the centuries, mankind has tried many ways of combating the forces of evil...prayer, fasting, good works and so on.
Up until Doom, no one seemed to have thought about the double-barrel shotgun.
EAT LEADEN DEATH DEMON!
Terry Pratchett

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Wood Elf Ranger
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USA
627 Posts

Posted - 31 Aug 2004 :  16:34:29  Show Profile  Visit Wood Elf Ranger's Homepage Send Wood Elf Ranger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
The Harpers had their own sourcebook under 2E... And another 2E sourcebook, Cloak & Dagger, covered the Moonstars.



I want a 3E sourcebook with updated info on what these organizations are up to now. And not just them but all of the more prominent goodly aligned organizations in the Realms. Along with a few very obscure organizations especially brand new ones as well

~Lee N.

"Breaktime yes?!.. Yes?.. Maybe?.. Noo, baaack to work.." -Grovel the Goblin from NWN: HotU
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Arnwyn
Acolyte

35 Posts

Posted - 03 Sep 2004 :  03:05:32  Show Profile  Visit Arnwyn's Homepage Send Arnwyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

To give this thread some direction, I'll be nasty and ask you to name one region product and one miscellaneous product.

Region Product:
Nimbral. (Or Lantan. Or Sossal.) In other words - one (or preferably - all!) of the three remaining "untouched" regions.

Miscellaneous Product:
Maps of the Realms. Maps of the entire surface of Faerun, in poster map format, at the scale of 1" = 30 miles.
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jameslt0
Seeker

USA
57 Posts

Posted - 03 Sep 2004 :  03:45:48  Show Profile  Visit jameslt0's Homepage Send jameslt0 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wood Elf Ranger

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
The Harpers had their own sourcebook under 2E... And another 2E sourcebook, Cloak & Dagger, covered the Moonstars.



I want a 3E sourcebook with updated info on what these organizations are up to now. And not just them but all of the more prominent goodly aligned organizations in the Realms. Along with a few very obscure organizations especially brand new ones as well



I know what you mean. Lords of Darkness covered all the vile organizations. There should be book that covers the good organizations also.

James
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Reefy
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 Sep 2004 :  13:36:07  Show Profile  Visit Reefy's Homepage Send Reefy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've changed my mind, what I really want is a Western Heartlands sourcebook.
I would also appreciate any sources I should check out for information on this area aside from the FRCS (2 and 3E). I have Forgotten Realms Adventures and Volo's Guide to the aforementioned area. Anything else would be appreciated.

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Faraer
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Posted - 21 Sep 2004 :  13:47:16  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No other source focuses on the Western Heartlands specifically, but see here and the Najara writeup in Serpent Kingdoms. Some local sources --
Berdusk: FOR4 for Twilight Hall
Candlekeep: Ed's article on this site
Darkhold: Castles
Evereska & Greycloak Hills: Dragon #267, Demihuman Deities pp. 115-16, map in The Sorcerer
Scornubel: Silverfall and Hand of Fire, Dragon #271 (the Great Goblet, secretive society)

There are more, of course. Either a Western Heartlands book or a Sembia book would be a great place for our long, long-awaited merchant lore.
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Capn Charlie
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418 Posts

Posted - 21 Sep 2004 :  14:34:31  Show Profile  Visit Capn Charlie's Homepage Send Capn Charlie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here with only slight modifications are the things I want to see come down the pipeline, and posted some time back on another forum.

What I want to see

1) Old empires Sourcebook
2) Aurora's Whole Realms Catalogue II
3) Lands Abroad Campaign Setting(With info on Kara Tur, Maztica, and Zakhara)
4) Nuts and Bolts, a book on the little stuff. Climate, prices for things, how economies work in the realms, and lots of little minutea that would add flavor to the game, like art of designs on coins.
5)A mini campaign set on the high seas, akin to how they did The Horde.

Shadows of War: Tales of a Mercenary

My first stab at realms fiction, here at candlekeep. Stop on by and tell me what you think.
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Reefy
Senior Scribe

United Kingdom
892 Posts

Posted - 22 Sep 2004 :  01:26:50  Show Profile  Visit Reefy's Homepage Send Reefy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faraer

No other source focuses on the Western Heartlands specifically, but see here and the Najara writeup in Serpent Kingdoms. Some local sources --
Berdusk: FOR4 for Twilight Hall
Candlekeep: Ed's article on this site
Darkhold: Castles
Evereska & Greycloak Hills: Dragon #267, Demihuman Deities pp. 115-16, map in The Sorcerer
Scornubel: Silverfall and Hand of Fire, Dragon #271 (the Great Goblet, secretive society)

There are more, of course. Either a Western Heartlands book or a Sembia book would be a great place for our long, long-awaited merchant lore.



Thanks, Faraer, I'll see what I can lay my hands on. I was hoping for something more on Iriaebor, but never mind. Any specific questions I come up with, I'll ask Ed. I definitely think a Western Heartlands book is overdue, and you're right in that it would be a suitable place for some merchant lore.

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Arnwyn
Acolyte

35 Posts

Posted - 22 Sep 2004 :  01:52:46  Show Profile  Visit Arnwyn's Homepage Send Arnwyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Reefy
I was hoping for something more on Iriaebor, but never mind.

Full city map and description in the Forgotten Realms Adventures hardcover. (That book includes city maps and details on every major city in the Western Heartlands.)
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 22 Sep 2004 :  03:02:46  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arnwyn

quote:
Originally posted by Reefy
I was hoping for something more on Iriaebor, but never mind.

Full city map and description in the Forgotten Realms Adventures hardcover. (That book includes city maps and details on every major city in the Western Heartlands.)



Yeah, it's not a lot of info, but there is some there. Didn't one of Volo's Guides cover the City of Spires?

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 22 Sep 2004 :  04:12:41  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Yeah, it's not a lot of info, but there is some there. Didn't one of Volo's Guides cover the City of Spires?



Iriaebor is covered in Volo's Guide to the Sword Coast. I believe that might be one of the free products available at the WOTC site.
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Bruce Donohue
Learned Scribe

Canada
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Posted - 22 Sep 2004 :  18:38:21  Show Profile Send Bruce Donohue a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Steven, if I remember correctly, many of us, including myself worked on the Forgotten Realms Encyclopedia and then it was on a consultant basis. It was then cancelled later on since it was supposed to be used only for in house use. We had to go through every since page of a book and reference any event, item, person, place, magic etc... in a certain format that would be easily compiled and translated into Encyclopedia format.

I think a lot of the material is still floating around somewhere.
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Lord Rad
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Posted - 22 Sep 2004 :  22:34:57  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bruce Donohue

Steven, if I remember correctly, many of us, including myself worked on the Forgotten Realms Encyclopedia and then it was on a consultant basis. It was then cancelled later on since it was supposed to be used only for in house use. We had to go through every since page of a book and reference any event, item, person, place, magic etc... in a certain format that would be easily compiled and translated into Encyclopedia format.

I think a lot of the material is still floating around somewhere.



Oh I remember that project well. I still have all my documents from the products and novels I worked on. Alas, it never came to light but the thought of those encyclopedias still gets me giddy

Lord Rad

"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Reefy
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Posted - 22 Sep 2004 :  23:18:54  Show Profile  Visit Reefy's Homepage Send Reefy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Yeah, it's not a lot of info, but there is some there. Didn't one of Volo's Guides cover the City of Spires?



Iriaebor is covered in Volo's Guide to the Sword Coast. I believe that might be one of the free products available at the WOTC site.



Aye, I mentioned I had both it and the also recommended Forgotten Realms Adventures in my initial post. ;) Thanks anyway.

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Elmonster
Acolyte

Russia
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Posted - 29 Sep 2004 :  20:10:36  Show Profile  Visit Elmonster's Homepage Send Elmonster a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Some kind of a sourcebook about famous Faerunian cities. History, geography, culture, guide and so on. With detailed maps and pictures.

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Bring me the wisdom of the age
All that's locked within the book of secrets
I longed for the knowledge of the sage...

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Neil
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Canada
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Posted - 14 Oct 2004 :  02:51:57  Show Profile  Visit Neil's Homepage Send Neil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The 3rd ed. update to the Old Empires! I want it so bad. Our parties had a lot of fun in good old Mulhorand and Raurin.

As for the ancillary areas of Toril (Maztica, Zakhara, the Hordelands, Kara-Tur), I fear I might have to web-publish the 3rd ed. updates myself.
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Neil
Learned Scribe

Canada
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Posted - 14 Oct 2004 :  03:04:27  Show Profile  Visit Neil's Homepage Send Neil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Garen Thal
-Impiltur by Eric L. Boyd & George Krashos (I know better than most just how hard George has been working on this nation, and it would truly be a shame if he didn't have some role in its official detail)

Good one. Impiltur has long been a favorite of mine, but it always missed out on the detail, due to it's position at the crossroads of the Vast/Moonsea/Eastern Heartlands, the Cold Lands and the Unapproachable East. All we know is that they have a Wizard Queen who rules with a council of Paladins, and that they are rather good traders. Although, with Damara being rebuilt (and thus able to resume trade) and Thay opening to the outside world, Impiltur is probably becoming unspeakably wealthy.

I'm really curious about Sambryl in particular. She is only Queen by grace of her marriage to Imphras IV. So is there a baby Imphras V that Sambryl is regenting for? If not, what happens when Sambryl dies? How will all those paladins determine which of them becomes king? Will Piergeron and Gareth ally against Impiltur for diluting the ranks of the paladin-kings?
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
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Posted - 14 Oct 2004 :  04:53:27  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Neil
I'm really curious about Sambryl in particular. She is only Queen by grace of her marriage to Imphras IV. So is there a baby Imphras V that Sambryl is regenting for? If not, what happens when Sambryl dies? How will all those paladins determine which of them becomes king? Will Piergeron and Gareth ally against Impiltur for diluting the ranks of the paladin-kings?



Well now. That's a very interesting bunch of questions you've got there. I do actually have the answers, they just aren't "official" yet.

Young King Imbrar II turns 16 in late 1374 DR, whereupon he'll take control over the kingdom and let Sambryl relinquish her self-sacrificing role as steward of the Heltharn line. Of course, since the death of her father Rilimbrar (and her husband and second cousin, the loathsome Imphras IV, whom she married to ensure that the throne of Impiltur would pass to other scions of Imphras II, which is why she was/is childless), no less than two other heirs of the realm have died mysteriously (in the case of the first) and due to plague (in the case of the second). Young Imbrar II is an attempt at "third time lucky". Of course, there are dark powers at work in Impiltur and his succession is by no means secure or guaranteed ...

Interesting times in Impiltur.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus

Edited by - George Krashos on 19 Oct 2004 02:33:27
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Neil
Learned Scribe

Canada
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Posted - 14 Oct 2004 :  12:31:03  Show Profile  Visit Neil's Homepage Send Neil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks, George! Very interesting indeed! I smell a potential adventure for some PCs out there...

Now, were the two heirs to the throne that died children, or were they Lords of Imphras II? Or does the "indirectness" (I paraphrase from the FRCS) mean that they are miles down the succession list, and the only reason they're on the Council at all is that they are paladins who are noble, and Impiltur has an institutional bias towards paladins?
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
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Posted - 15 Oct 2004 :  08:45:29  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, the short answer is that Imphras II (as FR6 states) had "many sons". The Lords of Imphras II are descendants of his sixth son (Fylraun, b. 1205 DR). The young Imbrar II is a descendant of his fourth son (Velimbrar, b. 1201 DR) and so "trumps" the Lords of Imphras II in terms of the line of succession.

And yes, all the previous heirs died before the age of 16 - which is the age you can be king and rule without a regent in the fair land of Impiltur.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus

Edited by - George Krashos on 15 Oct 2004 08:51:00
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