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Juarlaxle
Acolyte
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 Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 19:31:07
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Perhaps revered scholar you might give me some direction, I am looking for any tomes pertaining to the various monks of the realms.
* a white eyebrow rises slightly on ebon skin *
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Edited by - Juarlaxle on 28 Apr 2004 19:32:48
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SoulLord
Seeker
Mexico
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Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 20:25:03
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| the players guide to faerun has some monks if im not mistaken |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 29 Apr 2004 : 00:13:01
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| Umm... I'm pretty sure Heroe's Lorebook has one or two. Also, the Oriental Adventures feature many monks and styles. One particularly interesting one is a monk god called the Mad Monkey. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 29 Apr 2004 : 05:28:03
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George Krashos has spoken about Monk orders in the Realms before, most notably about the Orders of Ilmater. As I recall, Mr. Schend originally listed the Saints from the realm, with their associate Monastic Orders.
If neither George, nor Mr. Schend mind, I'll repost part of that discussion here, for easy of reference -
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Abbeys & Cloisters of Ilmater
The ten cloisters of Ilmater were established over the past 400 years, and three of them remarkably came into being during the Alemandrian Interregnum. They are placed throughout the country such that a pilgrim/devotee can, with some effort, travel from one to another within two days' ride. They are all manors of sorts, with protective walls around at least a chapel, chapter house, stables, and gardens. Some are more opulent with libraries, monks' quarters separate from the chapter house, or even garrisons for an affiliated knightly order. Each has a specific goal for its faithful, in accord with the saint after which the house is named. While commoners see no distinction among them other than their services and ages, some are more prestigious within church hierarchies of Tethyr simply by their famous founders or associated saints. There are more notes and details about these
monasteries, including the various duties of each house, within the various county sections below. The cloisters of Ilmater are noted under their full names, though everyone refers to them simply by their saint's names (i.e. "St. Alaric's, St. Cabram's, etc.). They are listed by age (first number), and each has a second number, which ranks its prestige among the clergy:
1/2) Convent of St. Rhynda: Symbol=Night violet (deep bluish-purple
flower). Dedicated in the Year of Bright Nights (985 DR).
2/7) Missionary of St. Cabram: Symbol=Sunset daisy (deep orange).
Dedicated in the Year of the Stone Rose (1017 DR).
3/4) Monastery of St. Natan: Symbol=Calim lily (local pale blue floating
lily). Dedicated in the Year of the Keening Gale (1050 DR).
4/5) Seminary of St. Ostus: Symbol=Morning glory. Dedicated in the Year
of Shambles (1088 DR).
5/1) Convent of St. Teresa: Symbol=Bloodlily (scarlet lily). Dedicated in
the Year of Azure Blood (1126 DR).
6/3) Abbey of St. Alaric: Symbol=Briar rose. Dedicated in the Year of the
Howling Moon (1130 DR).
7/8) Hospice of St. Corin: Symbol=Thistle. Dedicated in the Year of the
Yellow Rose (1242 DR).
8/10) St. Ramedar's Cloister: Symbol=Rock violet (pale, miniature ground
flower). Dedicated in the Year of the Dragon (1352 DR).
9/9) Monastery of St. Domin: Symbol=Mountain daisy (tiny, ochre-yellow
ground-crawling flowers). Dedicated in the Year of Maidens (1361 DR).
10/6) Priory of St. Silvyr: Symbol=Tuarlye (blue flower with green
highlights indigenous only to the Forest of Tethir). Dedicated in the Year
of the Staff (1366 DR).
Also, if you wish to learn more, I would suggest checking the Empires of the Shining Sea tome.
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 29 Apr 2004 : 06:31:10
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| I think there's also one called the Order of the Black Blood or something like that. They appeared in LoD... |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 29 Apr 2004 : 06:37:18
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quote:
Originally posted by DDH_101
I think there's also one called the Order of the Black Blood or something like that. They appeared in LoD...
The People of the Black Blood? They're Malarite lycanthropes, actually... |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 29 Apr 2004 : 06:44:55
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Originally posted by DDH_101
I think there's also one called the Order of the Black Blood or something like that. They appeared in LoD...
Perhaps you're thinking about the Monks of the Long Death?.
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Wood Elf Ranger
Senior Scribe
USA
627 Posts |
Posted - 29 Apr 2004 : 15:29:08
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Faiths and Pantheons has quite a few references in it as well. I believe almost every diety that can have Lawful followers has an order of monks. If theres not one then go ahead and make one up!  |
~Lee N.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 29 Apr 2004 : 15:48:44
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That is pretty much how I envision monastic orders within my Realms campaign. I prefer monks to be associated with the various religions in the Realms, regardless of alignment.
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Wood Elf Ranger
Senior Scribe
USA
627 Posts |
Posted - 29 Apr 2004 : 16:10:54
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Since I don't have to go to work until later this morning I actually had time to go through Faiths and Pantheons and here is what I found.
Magistrati - an order of wizards and monks who worship Azuth
Yellow Rose, Followers of the Unhindered Path, Disciples of St. Morgan the Taciturn, and the Sisters of St. Jasper of the Rock - all Ilmatari orders
Discipes of the Pheonix (LG), Brothers and Sister of the Pure Flame (LN), and the Disciples of the Salamander (LE) - all worship Kossuth
Dark Moon - sorcerer-monks of Shar
That was all I could find reference to though I'm sure there is more! |
~Lee N.
"Breaktime yes?!.. Yes?.. Maybe?.. Noo, baaack to work.." -Grovel the Goblin from NWN: HotU |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 29 Apr 2004 : 16:20:10
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| Sage, yes it's them. They are the ones who live in the North and are obsessed with death, right? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Fireheart
Learned Scribe
USA
109 Posts |
Posted - 29 Apr 2004 : 21:15:03
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Master Juarlaxle,
I know this is not a lot of information but perhaps this scroll will help. I came across it recently. On the 6th page is a list of monk orders from the Realms.
::hands scroll with bow::
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20020504a
Hope that helps.
~Fireheart
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 29 Apr 2004 : 21:32:16
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I'm afraid these old eyes can't see what you mean . . . .  |
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Fireheart
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 29 Apr 2004 : 21:38:16
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
I'm afraid these old eyes can't see what you mean . . . .
Uh-oh...Master Bookwyrm, was that to me?
If so, the link goes to the WOTC website where there is a pdf marked "Diety Do's and Don'ts that you can download. The 6th page of the pdf lists Monk Orders for the FR dieties.
Does that help?
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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4740 Posts |
Posted - 29 Apr 2004 : 22:11:17
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| Ah. And here I was silly enough to assume that, just since you linked to a webpage and not a download link, you meant the sixth webpage. |
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Fireheart
Learned Scribe
USA
109 Posts |
Posted - 29 Apr 2004 : 23:09:49
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My apologies...I didn't know you could link to download link? I think that's over this scribes head!
I'm glad to clarify though. 
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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4740 Posts |
Posted - 29 Apr 2004 : 23:17:53
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If you're using IE (the most common browser), just right-click and select "copy shortcut."
To make it nice and neat in this forum, here's an example:
Candlekeep Website
Just select "quote" for this post to take a look at the forum code I inserted. |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 30 Apr 2004 : 00:08:18
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quote:
Originally posted by Bookwyrm
If you're using IE (the most common browser), just right-click and select "copy shortcut."
And for those of you who use Mozilla and derivatives(including more recent Netscape versions), it's "Copy Link Location". I have no clue what it is for Opera, and a simple text highlight and copy should work for lynx users, last I checked... |
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Fireheart
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 : 00:32:36
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quote:
Originally posted by Bookwyrm
If you're using IE (the most common browser), just right-click and select "copy shortcut."
To make it nice and neat in this forum, here's an example:
Candlekeep Website
Just select "quote" for this post to take a look at the forum code I inserted.
 I see. Thank you, Most Learned Scribe. ::bows::
(I love learning new things!)
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Wood Elf Ranger
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 : 02:21:16
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I just took a look at those Monk orders and that sure isn't a lot of information. It got my overly-active imagination going though. I'm going to make up some monk orders for some of the deities that weren't listed Remember none of this is 'Cannon' its just from myself but feel free to use it in your campaign if you want to.
Deity - Order Name (alignment(s))- Description - Bonus
Helm or Torm - Everwatchers (LG, LN) - This is a small order of monks and rangers whos main purpose is scouting. There is at least one of this order in every group of Helm or Torms other orders. - Ability to multiclass as Ranger without penalty as long as Monk level is higher. Must choose followers of an evil god as Favored Enemies. For example you could choose followers of Bane and recieve the Favored Enemy bonus against all followers of Bane no matter what race.
Kelemvor - Peace Bringers (LG, LN) - This order is somewhat similar to the Long Death but they share Kelemvor's views on death. They keep records of the dead and fight the undead. - Can use Quivering Palm against skeletal undead to shatter their bones.
Mask - Order of Shadows (LE) - These monks are excelent at sneaking as well as making business deals. There are not many in this order and they are very reluctant to train new recruits especially those that hold a very high place in other guild ranks. - Can multiclass as Rogues without penalty as long as Monk level is 2 levels higher. Can use Sneak Attack with the Flurry of Blows ability.
Mielikki or Silvanus - Thoughts of the Forest (LN) - Another branch of forest followers. Most of these monks are hermits living alone deep in the forests. They study the forests and the animals within and will protect them when needed. Some of the oldest of this group are allowed within the druidic circles. - May multiclass as druid without penalties. All monk bonuses and abilities still count while in wildshape.
Oghma - Wrestlers of Knowledge (LN) - A very specific odrer within Candlekeep these monks couple their love of lore with love of wrestling. They keep the library in order and up-to-date and have wresting matches to decide who gets the best jobs. Sometimes as a prank on newcomers they challenge them to a match before they let them peruse lore within the library. - Upon second level they recieve the Dirty Fighting feat as their extra feat but perform a wrestling move instead of a dirty fighting move
Thats all I have time for right now if y'all like my ideas let me know and I might try to come up with some more later |
~Lee N.
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Edited by - Wood Elf Ranger on 30 Apr 2004 02:23:25 |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 : 06:55:46
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quote:
Originally posted by Arivia
quote:
Originally posted by Bookwyrm
If you're using IE (the most common browser), just right-click and select "copy shortcut."
And for those of you who use Mozilla and derivatives(including more recent Netscape versions), it's "Copy Link Location". I have no clue what it is for Opera, and a simple text highlight and copy should work for lynx users, last I checked...
I may as well put my piece in here -
For those five of you beta-testing my web browser, the right-mouse button functions have not all been completely loaded into the OS yet. Instead, you will have to use a keyboard function key (F12) in addition to the left mouse button in order carry out most of the external connections and downloading functions presented in this scroll.
That also goes for any other external urls that are presented here in Candlekeep. The WotC Message Boards uses an alternate system on their server, so a different procedure is needed to download or link externally from that site. Until the right mouse button functions have been loaded, please keep these methods in mind.
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 : 07:00:20
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| Good jog, Wood Elf Ranger. I'd been meaning to do something like that myself. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 : 10:05:25
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I Suggested to Rich Baker that they do FRC length write ups for the Monk orders and Paladin Chapter house found in the Dietys does and donts article for PGTF
Unfortunatly PGTF was feature locked when I suggested it.
So I suggested it to Ed as a web Article, he said it was worth doing but it wouldnt see the light of day for at least a year as Wizards have a 1 year backlog of Eds articles |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 : 10:22:05
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As was recently said in a favorite webcomic of mine: "Curse you, Wizards of the Coast! Curse you!"
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 : 10:24:32
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A year's backlog of Ed's articles... That is disturbing. Are they part of any web feature in particular, or is WotC just sitting on them for no 'logical' reason?.
I mean, if they (WotC) intend to use some of the material in upcoming products, that's fine. But if this information is just sitting on a hard drive somewhere at WotC HQ, well, that's almost as fiendish as a baatezu plot...
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Dargoth
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 : 11:16:33
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its not real suprising if you think about it
They publish Eds articles either Fortnightly or monthly, each topic has around 4 Issues
so thats 24 issues if they publish it Fortnightly or 12 if they publish it monthly
This means that only 3-6 Topics are done in a year |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 : 11:32:27
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Yes, and it's yet another WotC policy that I don't understand.
Perhaps they should make they available weekly instead, thus the backlog would slowly begin to disappear.
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 : 11:51:04
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Oh, but there's only so much Realmslore you can talk about. It's not like it's a series on PrCs, after all.
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The Sage
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Dargoth
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 : 14:06:23
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| I dont think its specfic to the FR, there are very few (If any) articles on the WOTC site that get updated every week be it Realms lore or Savage progression |
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