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Mystral
Acolyte
Turkey
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 Posted - 01 Jan 2004 : 11:22:59
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I'm creating a chosen but I don't know what kind of specialities i can give so help me Character is Drd(19) of Eldath/Ranger(7) of Mielikki!!!you can e mail mystral_eru@hotmail.com
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jan 2004 : 11:39:41
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A few questions and a thought...
First of all, how do you have two patron deities?
Secondly, who is this character going to be a chosen of? Eldath, Mielikki, or some other deity?
The thought...
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2004 : 07:32:34
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::scratches head::
Can you actually do that? |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2004 : 07:36:35
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| What part of that post are you referring to, Bookwyrm? Be more specific, please. |
Edited by - Arivia on 03 Jan 2004 08:18:03 |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2004 : 08:29:39
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| Have two deities, each powering a different spellcasting class held by a single character. |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2004 : 08:39:50
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| Not as far as I know, no. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2004 : 08:45:56
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| Yes, that's what I thought. I can't find anything against it, though. Which is strange, to say the least. |
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2004 : 11:02:50
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actually (in an effort to loathe midnight more) I have found an exception... There is one atleast that is a chosen of two... Qilue Veladorn.... (she is one of the seven sisters.... unless I am mistaken... or thinking of something that has nothing at all to do with this) Anyways, she is supposed to be a Chosen of BOTH Mys...errr Midnight AND the False Drow Heathen Goddess, Ellistree...( I do so love that word: Heathen... I'll have to make a note of using it more )... Anyways before I begin to ramble I have found only that, One who is Chosen by two Deities......Well there it tis then... |
It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2004 : 19:15:16
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*slaps The Sage in the face with an empty leather glove*
Knave, thou dares to question my facts?! Have at thee!
Anyways, While I WOULD like to AGREE with you sage, I find in print that I cannot to. She is Also a Chosen of Ellistree (according to page 247 of the FRCS (under the side bar of 'Chosen of Mystra'... first paragraph). Let that be a lesson to you commoner . |
It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2004 : 22:34:25
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| As much as I hate to disagree with a master of realmslore, deimos is correct. Sorry Sage. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 01:22:11
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In "If You Need Help -- Ask the Drow!" and The Seven Sisters, all the priests of the Promenade of Eilistraee are said to be called the Chosen of Eilistraee; Qilué Veladorn in some sense 'the Chosen of the Chosen' but no powerful granted powers are mentioned. Remember, in Ed's Realms there are only Chosen (in the sense used in this thread) of Mystra, the other 'Chosen' in the official Realms were added by other authors misunderstanding or disregarding the purpose of Mystra's Chosen (a check on her power and a precaution against her destruction).
Recent references to Qilué as 'Chosen of Eilistraee' may be an abbreviated way of describing the situation above, a retcon making her a CoE in the CoM sense, or a careless error.
Incidentally, Realmslore has plenty of instances of people, even priests, with two patron gods. |
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 01:40:50
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| actually.... that does sound familiar.... I'm not sure from where though... that there are 'THE Chosen' and then the 'Chosen'.. If that makes a whit of sense... which I doubt seeing as I'm trying to say it.. and we all know how often I make sense... |
It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 01:58:49
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So I was correct...at least partially . The matter of contention which Faraer was just talking about was what I was thinking at the time I answered your post Cardinal. Oh well, it sounds as though it all comes down to a matter of interpretation anyway.
What do you have to say now Cardinal...
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 02:21:57
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| Well YOU should have said so in the FIRST place... Most everyone know's I'm unstable as it is... Explain your meanings first, then we be allies in a common goal... then everything hunky-dory.... ... Is that even a word? |
It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
-Unknown |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 02:41:08
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| i dont believe so, no i dont think it is, my lolthite friend |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 02:56:19
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All is forgiven!
And we shall be as allies once more...... Simply say : "Cardinal, You are right, and I, The Sage, was wrong"... Well ok.. Maybe not now or in the near future but one day.. Until then...
Huzzah! |
It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 03:12:07
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Hah!!!...I don't think that day will ever come Cardinal...it is a near-physical impossibility. You'd have more of a chance witnessing the quantum mechanical phenomena of 'quantum-tunneling' occuring...
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Edited by - The Sage on 04 Jan 2004 03:13:15 |
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 03:30:02
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| So.... There's still a chance then? Huzzah! |
It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 05:28:41
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Nothing's impossible. Improbable, unlikely but Never impossible.
The wisdom of Luigi.... |
It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
-Unknown |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 14:04:03
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| In this case, highly improbable, but still has like a .01% chance, lol. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jan 2004 : 21:10:14
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| My sincerest appologies Sage. Say, have you checked your magic shop lately? I left a request for Brax. Not that you have to, but your items are so much better than mine! |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jan 2004 : 14:18:07
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::The Sage taps Shadowlord on the shoulder, capturing his attention...::
"Actually I was more concerned with the wise Alaundo, and his now famous magical-staff showing up, catching some of his scribes doing something other than their regular duties..."
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Edited by - The Sage on 07 Jan 2004 14:20:45 |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jan 2004 : 00:13:27
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| ahh, of course sage, alaundo has talk to me several times lately (literally) regarding the off topicness of the scribes, indeed its quite common Shadowlord chuckles to himself.... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Wood Elf Ranger
Senior Scribe
USA
627 Posts |
Posted - 08 May 2004 : 06:33:02
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| To get this scroll back on topic... I am curious about this subject, how would someone go about creating a template for a Chosen of any deity? Would greater deities be able to give their Chosen more powers and abilities? |
~Lee N.
"Breaktime yes?!.. Yes?.. Maybe?.. Noo, baaack to work.." -Grovel the Goblin from NWN: HotU |
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Sarta
Senior Scribe
USA
505 Posts |
Posted - 08 May 2004 : 08:33:06
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I guess I'm a traditionalist. When I run games, Mystra has chosen and no other deities do. Occasionally mortals are favored by their gods and given advantages, but nothing which truly equates with Mystra's chosen.
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Chyron
Learned Scribe
Hong Kong
279 Posts |
Posted - 08 May 2004 : 17:09:55
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Not to disagree with you Sarta, for I also consider myself a bit of a traditionalist…But for me ever since AO was brought into the cosmic picture I just can’t foresee Mystra being allowed to grant such powers. AO was supposed to have a balance among the deities and to me Mystra sways that balance to the good side (particularly the chaotic good side as that is the disposition of many of her chosen). IF she is to be the most powerful of the deities, then I would think she should be true neutral favoring no sides and creating chosen among mages of all dispositions so long as they protect the weave.
Of course this is not how things are in the realms as we know them. As a believer in balance myself I don’t think all deities should have chosen equal to Mystra’s. But I would argue that at least Shar should have a handful to counter balance Mystra’s chosen. I would additionally argue that they would have a form of Shadowfire akin to Silverfire.
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Just My Thoughts
Chyron :)
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Wood Elf Ranger
Senior Scribe
USA
627 Posts |
Posted - 08 May 2004 : 17:33:27
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| Can we just scratch Mystras Chosen for a moment? They seem a bit too powerful to me. What I'm wanting are Chosen for lesser deities. To me I'm thinking that most likely there could be only one. But from the Everis Cale books it seems like Mask has 5. From Lord of Darkness there is a template for a Chosen of Bane, which it says there can only be one at a time. Now lets say I want to make a Chosen template for a different deity could I just use the Chosen of Bane template and change it to reflect that deities portfolio? |
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"Breaktime yes?!.. Yes?.. Maybe?.. Noo, baaack to work.." -Grovel the Goblin from NWN: HotU |
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Creating A Chosen
