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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
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 Posted - 27 Apr 2004 : 06:32:23
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Originally posted by Wood Elf Ranger
Lady Kazandra, After I finish my character write-up should I send it to you or Sage or both?
Send it to the Sage. My actual involvement in the campaign is really only limited to design and background. The Sage is responsible for the PCs, and pretty much everything else.
Here's the email - roguemodron01@hotmail.com
Your PCs background is interesting RogueAssassin. In fact, with the slight alteration of some facts in the campaign, I think I may have just worked out an interesting way for your character to become involved in the adventure. If you're interested, I'll send it to you via ethereal mail. But I must ask you not to discuss it here, since it does deal - in a minute way - with the adventure to come.
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2004 : 06:35:55
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The background would need a lot of fleshing out, I think. I can give you some hints as to what to do, if you'd like.
As for the krunchy side of things, are you planing on doing a straight fighter? Because unless half dragons have changed, you won't be getting the necessary skills until level seven, which means you can't take any Kensai levels until level 8. Considering your ECL, that's a while off.
And for something half-fluffy, half-krunchy, what'll your oath of service be? You need to complete it before taking any Kensai levels.
Edit: Wait, I got that wrong, I think. How many racial Hit Dice does a half-dragon get? |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 27 Apr 2004 : 06:48:49
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| 0, Bookwyrm-just the +3 LA, as discussed previously within. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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4740 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2004 : 06:58:09
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Really? I seemed to recal at least three racial HDs. Oh well.
So that stands. Rogue, your PC wouldn't be able to take any Kensai levels until after character level ten. That's unless you take a level of rogue, or another class that takes those skills as class skills. Of course, due to the BAB requirement, that only shaves off a single level, so you'd probably be best sticking with the single-classed fighter. |
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 27 Apr 2004 : 06:59:25
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
As for the krunchy side of things, are you planing on doing a straight fighter? Because unless half dragons have changed, you won't be getting the necessary skills until level seven, which means you can't take any Kensai levels until level 8. Considering your ECL, that's a while off.
Bookwyrm, can you expand upon this a little more?. I'm not sure I understand.
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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4740 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2004 : 07:16:39
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To qualify for the Kensai PrC, you need a BAB of +5, a Lawful alignment, five ranks each in Concentration, Diplomacy, and Ride, the feats Combat Expertise and Weapon Focus (any), and a roleplaying aspect (fulfilling an oath).
Since the only one of the skills that is on the fighter's list is Ride, that means that Rogue will have to wait until level seven before any cross-class skill can have five ranks. |
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Sarta
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 27 Apr 2004 : 07:43:36
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
To qualify for the Kensai PrC, you need a BAB of +5, a Lawful alignment, five ranks each in Concentration, Diplomacy, and Ride, the feats Combat Expertise and Weapon Focus (any), and a roleplaying aspect (fulfilling an oath).
Since the only one of the skills that is on the fighter's list is Ride, that means that Rogue will have to wait until level seven before any cross-class skill can have five ranks.
Yup, or he'll need to grab a single level of bard (where both concentration and diplomacy are class skills), in which case he'd qualify for kensai by level 6, since bards do not get a +1 BAB at level 1.
EDIT: or cleric for that matter -- but bard offers more skill points, so is probably more effective.
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
921 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2004 : 08:06:33
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
To qualify for the Kensai PrC, you need a BAB of +5, a Lawful alignment, five ranks each in Concentration, Diplomacy, and Ride, the feats Combat Expertise and Weapon Focus (any), and a roleplaying aspect (fulfilling an oath).
Since the only one of the skills that is on the fighter's list is Ride, that means that Rogue will have to wait until level seven before any cross-class skill can have five ranks.
Ah that helps, thanks. I understand about the qualifications for the class. It was just the skills and waiting until level seven portion that threw me  .
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1796 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2004 : 11:47:43
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Sorry to interrupt your conversations: I was just wondering if there was room for one additional very unemployed player at this point? If so, I'd be willing to play anything. I have 16 years of FR gaming "experience" (75% of it as a DM, so you would have to forgive me if I'm rusty as a player!  ) playing/DMing a wide variety of classes, Core and FR. I'm ready to play whatever the group needs the most (but you all have to know that I am very partial to dwarves - I have never played a halfling in the Realms though... hmmm... perhaps this could be it!  ).
Regardless, where can I read about this campaign? (character creation guidelines, premise, etc.) |
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
921 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2004 : 13:20:51
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A lot of the campaign details have yet to be released, although some snippets have been revealed here and there within the library.
However, some major aspects of the campaign will included:
- adventuring in Waterdeep
- interaction with several notable NPCs in Waterdeep
- exposure to the Outer Planes (although the campaign will focus mainly on the Elemental [or Inner] Planes)
- a short encounter in Sigil
- a brief sojourn through some of the levels of Undermountain is a possibility (this is pending, and due entirely to a special request by several other players)
- conclusion of the adventure is a secret
At present, we're still collecting together PCs, and a few other details. Since this thread has become so popular here, a number of visitors have also been contacting both myself and the Sage, asking to join in. So, this is taking us some extra time to deal with.
Now, as to your original question - we would be honoured to have a D&D veteran join our campaign. Aside from the Sage, and several other players in this adventure, everyone else who has joined are still relative newbloods to the world of D&D. So, your membership is indeed welcome  .
There will be a small information pack sent out to all the players once we have received all the character sheets. We are working toward (hopefully  ) a mid-May start period, so everyone's final character ideas should be completed by at least the second week of May. Once that's done, you'll all have (again hopefully ) become well acquainted with the campaign website.
The Sage will have more when he returns  .
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2004 : 19:26:04
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Cool.
So, we've a fighter varient multiclassing as a wizard (me), a ranger varient, a wizard, something called a "handler" . . . . Anything else? We need a cleric. Or someone who can heal, at least.
A cleric of Oghma would also be able to meet up with Jack, since he's going to try to spend some time in the library. |
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1796 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2004 : 21:46:18
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I would gladly step in to be the party's cleric! of what race and faith, that will remain to be seen once someone sends me the character creation / campaign guidelines. 
Edit: it would be cool too if all the current players mention who their respective Patron deities are... I'd rather play a "theologically compatible" cleric rather than play a thorn in the party's side, if you all don't mind. Also, there are some abilities and spells that have a greater effect on members of the same faiths (I'm not really concerned with that, as I've never seen a party with two PCs having the same faith, but it would be good to know). |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2004 : 22:11:53
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2004 : 22:17:50
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Purp, my character's from Earth, in case you didn't know. I see that you're new here, so you might not have seen my story on him, also in the Adventuring section. So anyway, he's a Roman Catholic, who believes that the Torillian gods aren't really godlike, just powerful beings.
And I forgot.  We've a cleric of Waukeen, don't we? |
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Wood Elf Ranger
Senior Scribe
USA
627 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2004 : 23:46:02
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Before I go any further with my character sheet I have three easy questions.
1. Do we roll our ability scores or do we get a set number to distribute?
2. Do we get full HP every level or do we roll for it?
3. Can we use the Region rules? Ability to choose a Region feat at first level plus Region equipment? |
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1796 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 00:20:29
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
Purp, my character's from Earth, in case you didn't know. I see that you're new here, so you might not have seen my story on him, also in the Adventuring section. So anyway, he's a Roman Catholic, who believes that the Torillian gods aren't really godlike, just powerful beings.
And I forgot. We've a cleric of Waukeen, don't we?
I just read your Jack Archer thread. Very impressive character background, endorsed no less than by Elminster himself! wow!
So is there some sort of campaign guidelines / instructions available yet? I'm not making a PC until someone informs me of Sage's requirements.
By the way Bookwyrm, what's the official PC roster we have? I'll make a cleric gladly (with or without one being already in the party). I can play many other things though... the bottom line is that I want to complete the party rather than duplicating already existing abilities.
Finally, have you though of having Jack be a Duelist 4 / Wizard 5 instead of a Ftr4/Wiz5? I think that the Duelist PrC (from Complete Warrior) is tailor made for Jack. It's now a Core class I believe (no longer a PrC). |
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Arivia
Great Reader
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2965 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 00:27:32
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Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
Finally, have you though of having Jack be a Duelist 4 / Wizard 5 instead of a Ftr4/Wiz5? I think that the Duelist PrC (from Complete Warrior) is tailor made for Jack. It's now a Core class I believe (no longer a PrC).
I'm answering on Bookwyrm's behalf-yes, he has considered it, and the Swashbuckler core class, which you are referring to, also. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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4740 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 06:29:05
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Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
I just read your Jack Archer thread. Very impressive character background, endorsed no less than by Elminster himself! wow!
Ah, no. You've got that a bit wrong. If he'd endorsed it, I'd have quickly deleted all of it and worked up a publishing deal with WotC. 
No, what he liked was my writing style and abilities. And the character. One of the reasons that backstory hasn't been updated in so long is because of that; he recomended puting Jack in a world of my own, so I've been constructing a story based on that.
Here's hoping to see a book with my (real) name on the cover arrive at your local bookstore.
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Finally, have you though of having Jack be a Duelist 4 / Wizard 5 instead of a Ftr4/Wiz5? I think that the Duelist PrC (from Complete Warrior) is tailor made for Jack. It's now a Core class I believe (no longer a PrC).
At the moment, he's a Ftr4/Wiz5, with the Fighter levels being customized. (For instance, he has no armor proficiencies, but does have Dodge and Comabat Expertise as a trade-in.) Soon, I hope, he'll be converted into a Fcr4/Wiz5. The Fencer levels will have everything Jack has as the customized Fighter, save for one feat I think I'll remove (Mobility), which was just there to qualify for the Duelist PrC. Since he'd actually be advancing in the Fencer levels, it's no longer needed.
As for the Duelist, you're slightly confused. The PrC by that name is still a PrC, in the 3.5e DMG. The core class you were talking about is the Swashbuckler, which was in The Complete Warrior. As Lady Kazandra said, I'd thought about it, but the thing is the class is actually weaker than the customized fighter levels. I actually think the Swashbuckler isn't very good on its own, at least at lower levels. That's one of the reasons I'm (trying!) to develop the Fencer with Sage. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 07:56:41
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Originally posted by Arivia
I'm not sure what I'm going to actually be...I've got a character concept, but I'm not sure if it'll actually turn out to be a wizard, cleric, or what...Which is part of the reason I'm going to blitz the Sage with questions when he reappears.
Blitz away Arivia, for I have reappeared .
Bookwyrm, a 'handler' is in many way similar to the standard D&D rogue class, with just a few minor differences - mainly fluff-based.
Wood Elf Ranger, I would prefer that you roll for your own ability scores. The dice-rolling program that I had designed in VB is still not working correctly, and from my analysis of it's code, it has one to many bugs to be considered presentable.
As for your second question - Do we get full HP every level or do we roll for it?. I'm still not sure about this. What does everyone else think?.
And finally, I would expect that Regional aspects for PC be taken into consideration when designing your PC, although, it's not necessary.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 08:00:13
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Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
So is there some sort of campaign guidelines / instructions available yet? I'm not making a PC until someone informs me of Sage's requirements.
Exactly what type of requirements are you looking for PDK?.
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Originally posted by the Bookwyrm
That's one of the reasons I'm (trying!) to develop the Fencer with Sage.
That is one of the projects that is close to being finished Bookwyrm. I'll talk to you further through eldritch mail.
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 08:05:35
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Originally posted by The Sage
Wood Elf Ranger, I would prefer that you roll for your own ability scores. The dice-rolling program that I had designed in VB is still not working correctly, and from my analysis of it's code, it has one to many bugs to be considered presentable.
As for your second question - Do we get full HP every level or do we roll for it?. I'm still not sure about this. What does everyone else think?.
I awoke to find something interesting from Artalis in my inbox- a verification email from here. Even though it's blindingly old, it seems to still work well. Oh-on the hp question...I'm fine either way...
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eldritch mail
 Could someone please tell me when the name changes again? Please? |
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Wood Elf Ranger
Senior Scribe
USA
627 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 08:26:01
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Done, done, and done 
I hope we get full HP for each level because thats how I've filled my sheet out. But if not I'll roll no problem!
My character is finally complete! Its on its way to you Sage  |
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"Breaktime yes?!.. Yes?.. Maybe?.. Noo, baaack to work.." -Grovel the Goblin from NWN: HotU |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 08:35:01
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Originally posted by The Sage
As far as I know Arivia, the term 'eldritch mail' is the more accurate of the two terms.
Okay...I just seem to remember other versions being tossed around the library...ethereal mail and such... |
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1796 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 08:37:00
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
So is there some sort of campaign guidelines / instructions available yet? I'm not making a PC until someone informs me of Sage's requirements.
Exactly what type of requirements are you looking for PDK?.
Are we on a 32 or 28 point buy system? What races and classes are allowed? What level do we start at? How is the game played? etc. etc. etc. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 08:38:59
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Yes I know, I think I was responsible for that.
Anyway, I was reading a treatise while in Sydney about magic and technology in the D&D environment. Among some other interesting writings, it suggested (rather jokingly) that real-life email, should be referred to as 'eldritch mail' while online - eldritch equating with all things magical.
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Wood Elf Ranger
Senior Scribe
USA
627 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 08:43:43
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Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
Are we on a 32 or 28 point buy system? What races and classes are allowed? What level do we start at? How is the game played? etc. etc. etc.
No point buy we roll our own stats!
Any Race/Class combination is allowed as long as approved by Sage
Starting around level 7 I believe.
Played over e-mail, more information soon to be coming I'm sure! |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 08:47:51
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Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
So is there some sort of campaign guidelines / instructions available yet? I'm not making a PC until someone informs me of Sage's requirements.
Exactly what type of requirements are you looking for PDK?.
Are we on a 32 or 28 point buy system? What races and classes are allowed? What level do we start at? How is the game played? etc. etc. etc.
Purple Dragon Knight, Wood Elf has pretty much already covered the answers to your queries.
I look forward to hearing from you soon .
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 08:52:44
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Originally posted by The Sage
Yes I know, I think I was responsible for that.
Anyway, I was reading a treatise while in Sydney about magic and technology in the D&D environment. Among some other interesting writings, it suggested (rather jokingly) that real-life email, should be referred to as 'eldritch mail' while online - eldritch equating with all things magical.
Interesting idea... |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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4740 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 10:39:44
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First of all, since I was the person who coined "ethereal mail" as a way to speak of email in-character . . . don't I get a say in this? 
Ah, but I suppose 'eldritch' is suitable as well . . . .
As to character creation, I've made Jack Archer (who is, undoubtably, the oldest character in the game ) with a point-buy of 32 points and "average" hit points.
That that latter means is I counted Fighter (Fencer now -- and I'm on the lookout for that package of yours, Sage!) as his "natural" class (so base 10 hit points). I then found the average result of the rest and added it to the 10. That's not the average in the rules, where you take the middle and round down. It's an average where you carry over the previous remainder of one-half the next time you level up. So Jack's class-granted hit points are ( 10 + 10 + 10 + 4 + 4 + 4 + 4 + 4 ) / 2 + 10, or 35. With his +1 Constitution modifier, that's up to 44 hp.
I said all this because I wanted to give another "standardized" option. I think we should only get full hit points if we're going to need them. Of course, if we get full hit points, then all the monsters and villians get full hit points. So that's something to think about.
As for rolling abilities, well, I've been using the 32 points for Jack for so long that I'd have to roll it out until I get something equal or better.  |
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