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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 25 Apr 2004 :  16:55:14  Show Profile  Visit Lady Kazandra's Homepage Send Lady Kazandra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Whoops . . . sorry, that was a typo . Besides, having a 4th level ranger with an ECL of 56 wouldn't make the ranger a 4th level character would it .

It should have been 6th level ranger, as a centaur, with an ECL +5.

There, that's better .

Anyway, the half-dragon sorcerer sounds good. Any particular reason why you chose it?.

"Once upon a time the plural of 'wizard' was 'war'." -- The Last Continent, by Terry Pratchett

Edited by - Lady Kazandra on 25 Apr 2004 16:59:35
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RogueAssassin
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Posted - 25 Apr 2004 :  17:06:07  Show Profile  Visit RogueAssassin's Homepage Send RogueAssassin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well actually yeah, I bought a pack of minis the other day and one the minis i got was a Silver Sorcerer a sorcerer with the half dragon template, and i thought i bet that would be a fairly decent build and a fun character to roleplay... so now all i gotta do is figure out what color im going to be , i think silver is the coolest but i dont want to come off as a twinky so i think im going to play as a brass dragon because i think there personality kinda fits. The half dragon template is a +3 lvl adjustment ... i think heres the link tell me what you thinkhttp://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20030912a

"Spirit. Its a Heros strength, a mothers resiliance, and the poor mans armor. It cannot be broken and it cannot be taken away. This i must belive"---Drizzt Do'Urden
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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 25 Apr 2004 :  17:12:43  Show Profile  Visit Lady Kazandra's Homepage Send Lady Kazandra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmmmn . . . it looks fairly solid, but then I'm hardly in a position to accurately comment on this, since I'm still learning the rules myself. So until the Sage's return, I'll think I'll defer this to our resident Dragon, and see what he thinks on this.

Bookwyrm, is all yours . . .

"Once upon a time the plural of 'wizard' was 'war'." -- The Last Continent, by Terry Pratchett
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Arivia
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Posted - 25 Apr 2004 :  18:55:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I still have yet to determine what I'm going to play...
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RogueAssassin
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Posted - 25 Apr 2004 :  20:14:24  Show Profile  Visit RogueAssassin's Homepage Send RogueAssassin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well i havent really DECIDED on what im oging to be yet i just have a few ideas. The half dragon thing looks fairly good but im having my doubts. Also id need a good BG story and i just cant think of one for a Half Dragon...

-The Rogue

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RogueAssassin
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Posted - 25 Apr 2004 :  20:26:45  Show Profile  Visit RogueAssassin's Homepage Send RogueAssassin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I dont know much about your Jack Archer class BookWyrm but thers an interesting ability in Dragon #310 thats called Vital Aim it allows you to add dex bonus to dmg, you may already be using this but i just thought it important enough to tell you about just in case.

I am thinking about making the Half Dragon a Knight type character(that is if i can play a half dragon).I need a Good BG story if anyone has any good ideas , please feel free to share them. I belive that im going to be a Black dragon born to a human woman. again any good Bg story ideas please tell me!
-The Rogue

"Spirit. Its a Heros strength, a mothers resiliance, and the poor mans armor. It cannot be broken and it cannot be taken away. This i must belive"---Drizzt Do'Urden
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Wood Elf Ranger
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Posted - 26 Apr 2004 :  00:15:04  Show Profile  Visit Wood Elf Ranger's Homepage Send Wood Elf Ranger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bookwyrm, wow what a remarkable story! I have to say Jack Archer reminds me somewhat of Gary Leger from the 'Woods Out Back' trilogy by R.A. Salvatore. One of my favorite stories that got me into fantasy. I know many of us dream about being in Jack Archers position!

Lady Kazandra, whoa thats a lot of information all at once! Thank you for everything though that does sound like its coming along nicely. So I guess my weretiger ranger isnt going to fit in? With an ECL +9 or so I'm told, and with you already having a ranger in the party and or course with all the starting quests being within the city. Sigh I guess its back to the drawing board.

I still very much want to be a part of this campaign please keep me informed. Perhaps I will wait until more information comes out before deciding on a character Thank you kindly Lady Kazandra for keeping things up while the Sage was away I am sure he is greatful as well

~Lee N.

"Breaktime yes?!.. Yes?.. Maybe?.. Noo, baaack to work.." -Grovel the Goblin from NWN: HotU

Edited by - Wood Elf Ranger on 26 Apr 2004 00:16:30
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Wood Elf Ranger
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Posted - 26 Apr 2004 :  00:31:42  Show Profile  Visit Wood Elf Ranger's Homepage Send Wood Elf Ranger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
After some thought I have had an idea which I believe will fit the story much better!

I would like my character to be a half-aquatic elf Ranger/Rogue looking to join the Harpers in Waterdeep. How does that sound? Of course I'll make up a much more interesting background story but just as an idea for now would that fit in with everyone else?

~Lee N.

"Breaktime yes?!.. Yes?.. Maybe?.. Noo, baaack to work.." -Grovel the Goblin from NWN: HotU
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RogueAssassin
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Posted - 26 Apr 2004 :  00:50:58  Show Profile  Visit RogueAssassin's Homepage Send RogueAssassin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I dunno sounds a little fishy

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RogueAssassin
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Posted - 26 Apr 2004 :  01:08:43  Show Profile  Visit RogueAssassin's Homepage Send RogueAssassin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was just wondering who is all playing and who is DMing?

-The Rogue

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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 26 Apr 2004 :  03:54:52  Show Profile  Visit Lady Kazandra's Homepage Send Lady Kazandra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wood Elf Ranger

Bookwyrm, wow what a remarkable story! I have to say Jack Archer reminds me somewhat of Gary Leger from the 'Woods Out Back' trilogy by R.A. Salvatore. One of my favorite stories that got me into fantasy. I know many of us dream about being in Jack Archers position!

Lady Kazandra, whoa thats a lot of information all at once! Thank you for everything though that does sound like its coming along nicely. So I guess my weretiger ranger isnt going to fit in? With an ECL +9 or so I'm told, and with you already having a ranger in the party and or course with all the starting quests being within the city. Sigh I guess its back to the drawing board.

I still very much want to be a part of this campaign please keep me informed. Perhaps I will wait until more information comes out before deciding on a character Thank you kindly Lady Kazandra for keeping things up while the Sage was away I am sure he is greatful as well

You're welcome Wood Elf, I just hope the Sage is as grateful .

Now as to your suggestion for a half-aquatic elf Ranger/Rogue, I must say that it sounds very intriguing. I've never seen nor used an half-aquatic elf in any campaign I have been involved in, so it's something I would like to see.

I'm not sure about the joining the Harpers angle though, even if your character is going to be a half-aquatic elf. Sea-elves are naturally distrustful of surface dwellers, and that trait would most likely carry over into any hybrid offspring. Still, it would be a welcome divergence if you can generate an interesting background story for why this particular half-elf wants to join the Harpers.

I look forward to seeing what you come up with.

"Once upon a time the plural of 'wizard' was 'war'." -- The Last Continent, by Terry Pratchett
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Arivia
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Posted - 26 Apr 2004 :  04:24:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Append a cleric to the list of characters. I've got an idea, but I'll need to talk to the Sage before proceeding farther.
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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 26 Apr 2004 :  04:32:50  Show Profile  Visit Lady Kazandra's Homepage Send Lady Kazandra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
He should be back late tonight (Australian time, where it's currently Monday) Arivia, so I would expect his return here, probably on Tuesday.

"Once upon a time the plural of 'wizard' was 'war'." -- The Last Continent, by Terry Pratchett
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Wood Elf Ranger
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Posted - 26 Apr 2004 :  04:37:01  Show Profile  Visit Wood Elf Ranger's Homepage Send Wood Elf Ranger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
Now as to your suggestion for a half-aquatic elf Ranger/Rogue, I must say that it sounds very intriguing. I've never seen nor used an half-aquatic elf in any campaign I have been involved in, so it's something I would like to see.

I'm not sure about the joining the Harpers angle though, even if your character is going to be a half-aquatic elf. Sea-elves are naturally distrustful of surface dwellers, and that trait would most likely carry over into any hybrid offspring. Still, it would be a welcome divergence if you can generate an interesting background story for why this particular half-elf wants to join the Harpers.

I look forward to seeing what you come up with.


Well half-aquatic elves are very different. They cannot breathe underwater like true aquatic elves so they spend the first part of their life with their human parent. So even though they may be distrustful of other full humans they really have little choice but to live with humans. Waterdeep is a perfect place because it is near the ocean all half-aquatic elves feel a call for the ocean and must be near one or they take certain penalties. Now as for joining the Harpers well thats going to have to wait until I write the background story but I'm sure it will be very interesting

~Lee N.

"Breaktime yes?!.. Yes?.. Maybe?.. Noo, baaack to work.." -Grovel the Goblin from NWN: HotU
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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 26 Apr 2004 :  04:44:03  Show Profile  Visit Lady Kazandra's Homepage Send Lady Kazandra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh, I didn't know they had little choice but to live with humans.

Anyway as I said, I can't wait to read what you'll come up with . . .

"Once upon a time the plural of 'wizard' was 'war'." -- The Last Continent, by Terry Pratchett
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Sarta
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Posted - 26 Apr 2004 :  05:29:01  Show Profile Send Sarta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Waterdeep is also an ideal location to have half-aquatic elves be from. There are quite a few aquatic elves who work in cooperation with the city keeping the harbor safe. It would not be unheard of for a mixed-relationship springing from this.

Sarta
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Wood Elf Ranger
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Posted - 26 Apr 2004 :  06:06:12  Show Profile  Visit Wood Elf Ranger's Homepage Send Wood Elf Ranger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you Sarta thats exactly what I meant.

Now should my character be male or female? As far as I know everyone else is male? I'm not sure how well I could play a female but I would give it a try I do like to see a balance within the group. Thats also why I was thinking a Ranger/Rogue to get those lockpick and disable trap skillsets.

Do you know if the Centaur Ranger is using a bow or melee weapons? I'm trying to decide on weather to use a shortbow or to go the dual-wield melee route.

~Lee N.

"Breaktime yes?!.. Yes?.. Maybe?.. Noo, baaack to work.." -Grovel the Goblin from NWN: HotU

Edited by - Wood Elf Ranger on 26 Apr 2004 21:36:53
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 26 Apr 2004 :  07:15:16  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lady Kazandra

I know the Bookwyrm's going to hate me for saying this - I can't remember Jack Archer's alignment . . . . Sorry Bookwyrm, I feel bad about that.



No problem. Jack's alignment is slightly vague on the moral side. He has a rather strict code, though, so he's Lawful. That's not a feature of the character's class -- which is Fencer/Wizard, though he's a Fighter/Wizard until Sage gets back to me on the collaboration we were going to do. The Fencer does tend to law because of the discipline, but the only alignment restriction is a suggestion on ethical alignment, that it match the favored ability (Int=Law, Wis=Neutral, and Chaos=Charisma).

Mostly, though, this is the reason behind the alignment: he is, first and formost, a scientist. Therefore, believing that laws of nature govern every natural process, he's Lawful Neutral. However, he's on the side of the angels, and as he continues adventuring, his moral alignment will slip to Good.

quote:

And finally, as for the starting level, that's pretty flexible as well. There are no 1st-to-3rd level PCs, so that should give you a rough idea.



From what Sage said, the CRs the characters get experience from will be something like 7. However, that was several months ago, so it could have changed.

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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 26 Apr 2004 :  07:34:23  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wood Elf Ranger

Bookwyrm, wow what a remarkable story! I have to say Jack Archer reminds me somewhat of Gary Leger from the 'Woods Out Back' trilogy by R.A. Salvatore. One of my favorite stories that got me into fantasy. I know many of us dream about being in Jack Archers position!



Thank you very much. I've been wanting to finish this section of the story (Prologue Part One, technically, since Chapter One and on will be the actual game), but I've had a lot of things in my way.

As for Gary Leger, that's better than Karl Cullinane. Not that there's anything wrong with Guardians of the Flame (as far as I know -- I've only read the first three books), but Jack isn't much like Karl. Gary . . . yes, I'd say he's a lot like him. Except he knows how to fight already. He doesn't need a broken spear to tell him what to do.

Okay, so he'll be unused to armored warriors and such. He still knows more than (in the wonderful line from The Mask of Zorro "Pointy end goes into the other man."



Rogue, I don't know about that ability, but I'm staying away from damage-dealing things for the moment. When I gave Jack four levels of fighter, I put in Weapon Specialization without really thinking. But in fact, he's gotten all his training by making a point of not hurting the other guy. So he wouldn't have studied how to cause damage. Sure, he can think about it. And the school of fencing he and his friends created is one that mimics a real duel. I won't go into that here, but suffice to say that he knows where places are vulnerable. Yet that only offsets the automatic don't-hurt-the-other-guy impulse; as of yet, until he gets in more experience in actual fighting, he won't be geting anything like damage bonuses.

However, I'll make a note of that. Thanks for pointing it out.

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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 26 Apr 2004 :  07:56:37  Show Profile  Visit Lady Kazandra's Homepage Send Lady Kazandra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The CRs haven't changed Bookwyrm, at least from what I've seen. CR 7 seems to be the standard.

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Sarta
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Posted - 26 Apr 2004 :  08:55:58  Show Profile Send Sarta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
With that in mind, I'm heavily considering playing a bard 2/cleric 5 of Waukeen. A travelling merchant from Thesk currently enjoying the wonders and comforts of Waterdeep.

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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 26 Apr 2004 :  09:06:55  Show Profile  Visit Lady Kazandra's Homepage Send Lady Kazandra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh, I like it. Let's just hope that there isn't much conflict between your Waukeen-worshipping character and Jack Archer.

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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 26 Apr 2004 :  09:17:05  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey, it's not like Jack's a communist. It's only that he doesn't consider money to be that important; he doesn't like wasting it, but usually he doesn't even know exactly what's in his wallet unless he pulls it out. The only reason he was able to avoid credit card debt on Earth was that he didn't use the card very much; he always prefered cash, so he could seperate out his expenses and spending money without having to keep a book.

Okay, so I made that up right here. So sue me.

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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 26 Apr 2004 :  09:23:34  Show Profile  Visit Lady Kazandra's Homepage Send Lady Kazandra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Heh, sounds like a particular 'Sage of some renown' that I know

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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 26 Apr 2004 :  09:24:40  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What, Jack or making things up as I go?

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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 26 Apr 2004 :  09:36:59  Show Profile  Visit Lady Kazandra's Homepage Send Lady Kazandra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A little of both actually . . .

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RogueAssassin
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Posted - 26 Apr 2004 :  21:28:38  Show Profile  Visit RogueAssassin's Homepage Send RogueAssassin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Does anyone have a problem with me being a Half Dragon, im sorta having second thoughts about it.. im just thinking it may be a little to powerful a build. Any thoughts?

-The Rogue

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Wood Elf Ranger
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Posted - 26 Apr 2004 :  21:45:36  Show Profile  Visit Wood Elf Ranger's Homepage Send Wood Elf Ranger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bookwyrm, Is there a Parry skill/feat or was that just in Neverwinter Nights? You might want to look into that for Jack Archer I think that would work out nice.

RogueAssassin, Your half-Dragon sounds cool, as long as he is Good and not Evil

Lady Kazandra, After I finish my character write-up should I send it to you or Sage or both?

~Lee N.

"Breaktime yes?!.. Yes?.. Maybe?.. Noo, baaack to work.." -Grovel the Goblin from NWN: HotU
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 26 Apr 2004 :  22:39:24  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wood Elf Ranger

Bookwyrm, Is there a Parry skill/feat or was that just in Neverwinter Nights? You might want to look into that for Jack Archer I think that would work out nice.



Just Neverwinter Nights. I've heard of other parry abilities, but really, I don't like them. The feat Combat Expertise is Jack's "parry" ability. That, I think, is the best use of the idea.

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RogueAssassin
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Posted - 26 Apr 2004 :  23:10:28  Show Profile  Visit RogueAssassin's Homepage Send RogueAssassin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Heres What i got on my Bg story so far for my Half Black Dragon( no hes not half black hes half dragon)
His father Meteo was a human who was in ties with a black dragon(no name). They had an agreement, the Man would bring the dragon any merchants stupid enough to follow a complete stranger into a corrupted marsh, and any treasure that the merchants had. He did this for a share of the profits. The Pair's buiseness became pleasure and after serveral years the man decided it was time he retired from this nasty buisessness collect his share of the dragons horde and and leave the swamp. The Dragon didnt like this idea to much and Put the man into a cage in her sleeping room. After only a few weeks a Knight slew the mother dragon, and freed Meteo. When the two searched the caves surrounding the area they found an egg. Meteo took the egg and went with the knight to his castle/reaining school. Several years went by and Saurn trained in the ways of the knight and trained under a master swordsman known as a Kensai. When Meteo died Saurn left the castle.

Now hes traveled for about a year and ended up in Waterdeep with a few local farmers who blame him for their cattle being killed though he didnt do it. I still have no real area he originated from, I plan on him being a Fighter and then PrCing a Kensai

-The Rogue

"Spirit. Its a Heros strength, a mothers resiliance, and the poor mans armor. It cannot be broken and it cannot be taken away. This i must belive"---Drizzt Do'Urden
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