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Sarta
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 Posted - 27 Jun 2004 : 20:22:37
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Originally posted by Artalis
Um... nice diplomacy skills... *grumble*
Well, from a role play perspective: diplomacy is what he does -- both in business and as a priest. Naglas would rather negotiate than fight in almost any situation. As he once told a vanquished highwayman in the backroads of Cormyr, "Kill a man and you can loot him only once. Let him live and broker a deal with him and you can plunder him for the rest of his life."
From a rules perspective - I took the diplomacy skill focus feat in order to qualify for Goldeye. I also do not like the way the game allows multiple synergies to stack with a particular skill. Personally, I've house ruled that one can only add a maximum of +2 to any skill from synergies in my own campaign. Not being aware that such a house rule exists here though, I've included them all.
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Artalis
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Posted - 27 Jun 2004 : 20:44:20
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Originally posted by Artalis
Um... nice diplomacy skills... *grumble*
Well, from a role play perspective: diplomacy is what he does -- both in business and as a priest. Naglas would rather negotiate than fight in almost any situation. As he once told a vanquished highwayman in the backroads of Cormyr, "Kill a man and you can loot him only once. Let him live and broker a deal with him and you can plunder him for the rest of his life."
From a rules perspective - I took the diplomacy skill focus feat in order to qualify for Goldeye. I also do not like the way the game allows multiple synergies to stack with a particular skill. Personally, I've house ruled that one can only add a maximum of +2 to any skill from synergies in my own campaign. Not being aware that such a house rule exists here though, I've included them all.
Sarta
No no no you misunderstand. It's just that my character is built very similarly is all and has a +20 in Diplomacy as well... Ironic and slightly amusing. My character's focus is more on treaties and less on commerce however.
What do they call that... "Simultaneous innovation" or something? |
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Sarta
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Posted - 27 Jun 2004 : 21:40:50
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What do they call that... "Simultaneous innovation" or something?
We have several it would seem. I know that my character is a bard/cleric (more cleric than bard), Purple Dragon Knight has a bard/cleric (more bard than cleric), and your character as well. We probably have diplomacy pretty well covered.
When I realized that Purple also had made a bard/cleric I was tempted to change characters from what I had posted to a paladin of Sune, but this late in the game, I think I'll see how things fare.
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Artalis
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Posted - 27 Jun 2004 : 22:33:10
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Yeah and Kelly's a Bard/Sorceress... more Sorceress than Bard... Sage must be pulling his hair out.
I had no idea this was happening. I think we are pretty light in the melee area though... do we still have the Centaur? I know Wood Elf Ranger's character is (appropriately enough) a ranger, so that's good.
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Artalis
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Posted - 27 Jun 2004 : 23:30:55
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Well my character is from and grew up in Waterdeep. So if anyone wants to meet her beforehand that would be just fine with me 
Sent you an email on that very subject. Be on the lookout for a message from Kelly Alexander (threllain@chaoscat.com) |
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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 28 Jun 2004 : 10:11:22
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Yeah and Kelly's a Bard/Sorceress... more Sorceress than Bard... Sage must be pulling his hair out.
Have you seen the Sage's avatar? Why do you think he changed it . . . ?  
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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 28 Jun 2004 : 10:13:26
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Originally posted by Artalis
I had no idea this was happening. I think we are pretty light in the melee area though... do we still have the Centaur? I know Wood Elf Ranger's character is (appropriately enough) a ranger, so that's good.
There is a centaur NPC, although I'm not sure if this is the same character that you may be talking about. |
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 29 Jun 2004 : 11:04:07
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I'm not sure, but I think that was Wood Elf. [To Wood Elf:] Weren't you the one thinking of a centaur ranger?
Also, don't we still have a half-dragon coming in sometime?
Jack's good for some skirmish-like combat. He has a normal AC of 17, before adding in some conditional dodge bonuses (such as the Dodge feat itself). He also has access to Combat Expertise, and his Tumble ranks give him a bonus on fighting defensively.
Offensively, he has an attack of +11/+6 with his rapier, with no Strength bonus to damage. He also has his spells, especially the Imbue Weapon feat, which lets him convert touch spells into a manufactured weapon. Even if he doesn't use touch spells that give multiple attacks (such as corrosive grasp), that means that he still uses his rapier to deliver a touch attack as part of the casting. If so, he gains a +2 bonus on the attack roll as well as the expanded critical range a rapier gives. If he is able to make a normal attack, he can deal normal damage if he makes a normal hit in addition to the touch attack.
Outside of the direct confrontation stats, he's very maneuverable. He's got good Balance and Jump, which will help him reach those out-of-the-way places. His Climb isn't so hot (+0) but he's got a good chance of springing an ambush from above.
I'm very interested in possible tactics I can use with him. If he has a chance to prepare some spells and pick a good spot, I think he'll be a Terran Terror.
Now all that remains is whether he'll react quickly, or be distracted. For instance:
Naglas: "Jack! Raksasha! Look out!"
Jack: "Hmm, raksasha? Interesting. Hindu demon . . . I hadn't noticed any Hindu-like cultures around here . . . ."
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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 29 Jun 2004 : 13:27:55
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Also, don't we still have a half-dragon coming in sometime?
Yes, although I think it is an NPC. I'll have to check. There is a draconian PC however, from Krynn. The reason for this though, will become evident as the campaign unfolds.
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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 29 Jun 2004 : 13:30:24
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Now all that remains is whether he'll react quickly, or be distracted. For instance:
Naglas: "Jack! Raksasha! Look out!"
Jack: "Hmm, raksasha? Interesting. Hindu demon . . . I hadn't noticed any Hindu-like cultures around here . . . ."
I'm glad you've said that. Reason being, I know that the Sage was planning for just such a reaction from Jack regarding his exposure to creatures he'd only learnt about in legends. Let's hope he can maintain his sanity in the face of what's to come . . . 
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Wood Elf Ranger
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Posted - 29 Jun 2004 : 15:53:53
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Nope I was thinking about a Weretiger early on... I believe Arivia was going to be the centaur but she had to drop out 
Artalis: I got your e-mail Kinda pressed for time and unsure how to proceed but I will go work on it right now. |
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Artalis
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Posted - 29 Jun 2004 : 21:51:27
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Nope I was thinking about a Weretiger early on... I believe Arivia was going to be the centaur but she had to drop out
Artalis: I got your e-mail Kinda pressed for time and unsure how to proceed but I will go work on it right now.
The idea was to get the ball rolling mostly. It's a pretty bland scene just an ordinary day nothing special going on... If you like just describe your character going about her business obliviously if you wish. After all there are tons of people around. If you have any specific questions feel free to send them to me via email... Just view this as an opportunity to get some character development under your belt so you can start the real game with a good knowledge of how she'd behave.
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 30 Jun 2004 : 12:59:43
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I'm glad you've said that. Reason being, I know that the Sage was planning for just such a reaction from Jack regarding his exposure to creatures he'd only learnt about in legends. Let's hope he can maintain his sanity in the face of what's to come . . .
Good! I'm glad to know the time I've been spending cross-referencing mythologies and D&D will be worth it.
And before anyone askes, no, you can't see it. Or perhaps you can, but not only is there not as much as I know there is (since I didn't know what's happening, I couldn't afford the time to make a truly serious effort), but what is there isn't much. For instance, all I had next to the raksasha was "Hindu demon." Since (again, because I didn't know how useful it was) it would take a lot of time to write out everything Jack might be thinking about in such situations (what it looked like, how it differed from myth, etc.), I just wrote down a reference to look up in the event Jack comes across a mention to that creature, god, item, spell, etc.
Of course, Sage might have to give me a heads-up sometimes. I can be pretty scatterbrained, and I might forget something. I might even have not noticed it yet -- for instance, the raksasha. I'd noticed when I was looking over tieflings that "raksasha" seemed familiar, but I figured I'd just seen it in another suplement. It was quite by chance that I saw a reference to the mythological version just recently. (Which was why, of course, it was on my mind at the time.)
(Now I better go before I make any more parenthetical remarks.  ) |
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Windancer
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Posted - 03 Jul 2004 : 03:14:10
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If I can be of any service I shall love to join this forum please. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 03 Jul 2004 : 06:25:07
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
I'm glad you've said that. Reason being, I know that the Sage was planning for just such a reaction from Jack regarding his exposure to creatures he'd only learnt about in legends. Let's hope he can maintain his sanity in the face of what's to come . . .
Good! I'm glad to know the time I've been spending cross-referencing mythologies and D&D will be worth it.
And before anyone askes, no, you can't see it. Or perhaps you can, but not only is there not as much as I know there is (since I didn't know what's happening, I couldn't afford the time to make a truly serious effort), but what is there isn't much. For instance, all I had next to the raksasha was "Hindu demon." Since (again, because I didn't know how useful it was) it would take a lot of time to write out everything Jack might be thinking about in such situations (what it looked like, how it differed from myth, etc.), I just wrote down a reference to look up in the event Jack comes across a mention to that creature, god, item, spell, etc.
Of course, Sage might have to give me a heads-up sometimes. I can be pretty scatterbrained, and I might forget something. I might even have not noticed it yet -- for instance, the raksasha. I'd noticed when I was looking over tieflings that "raksasha" seemed familiar, but I figured I'd just seen it in another suplement. It was quite by chance that I saw a reference to the mythological version just recently. (Which was why, of course, it was on my mind at the time.)
(Now I better go before I make any more parenthetical remarks. )
Jack's inclusion in the PbeM has prompted me to include some variant rules for this campaign. The most obvious would be the adaptation of the CoC 'insanity' rules set. Afterall, Jack is likely to encounter creatures that don't have a particular frame of reference within the real-world cosmology that he is already familiar with. There has to be some aspect of his mentality that will affected by encountering beings never before imagined. I mean, while he'll be relatively familiar with all draconic types, seeing a bodak, or some kind of 'Far-Realm' influenced creature is likely to give Jack a reason to pause, and consider his position.
I'll have to develop this idea a little more first...
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The Sage
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Posted - 03 Jul 2004 : 06:26:50
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If I can be of any service I shall love to join this forum please.
I assume you are referring to the PbeM campaign? If you are, I'll have to add you to the so-called 'Diviners List' for the time being.
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 03 Jul 2004 : 12:01:21
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Jack's inclusion in the PbeM has prompted me to include some variant rules for this campaign. The most obvious would be the adaptation of the CoC 'insanity' rules set. Afterall, Jack is likely to encounter creatures that don't have a particular frame of reference within the real-world cosmology that he is already familiar with. There has to be some aspect of his mentality that will affected by encountering beings never before imagined. I mean, while he'll be relatively familiar with all draconic types, seeing a bodak, or some kind of 'Far-Realm' influenced creature is likely to give Jack a reason to pause, and consider his position.
I'll have to develop this idea a little more first...
Considering I know know what these insanity rules are, I don't know what to say on them.
Except of course, I don't want Jack to go insane.  But that's likely a common theme among players. |
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The Sage
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Posted - 03 Jul 2004 : 15:33:21
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I have no intention on incorporating the entire 'insanity' system. I simply intend to use the basic aspects which can see temporary penalties applied to skill checks and certain actions when a PC is confronted with a frightening alien creature.
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 03 Jul 2004 : 15:57:05
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Ah. That makes more sense with Jack. He's perhaps a bit too logical.
"Look out! Handmaiden of Lolth!"
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Arivia
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Posted - 03 Jul 2004 : 16:03:55
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I have no intention on incorporating the entire 'insanity' system. I simply intend to use the basic aspects which can see temporary penalties applied to skill checks and certain actions when a PC is confronted with a frightening alien creature.
Good-I was worried some of the characters may end up with scores of mental disabilities.
"AAH! It's a dragon! Run away!"
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Artalis
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Posted - 03 Jul 2004 : 18:28:06
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That may still be the case Arivia. Afterall, it's not every day that a bard from the Singing Sigil meets a pseudo-natural creature...
I imagine Kelly would be similarly affected by such icky creatures. Possibly even moreso than Jack. Her initial reaction to "regular" creatures of fantasy (halflings, and half-orcs so far) is colored by the fact that Nenyalita was familiar with them and also that Kelly's been a sci-fi/fantasy buff for her entire life.
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The Sage
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Posted - 04 Jul 2004 : 03:46:01
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I've already taken that into consideration Artalis. I simply used Jack as the example because nearly everyone involved with this PbeM campaign is familiar with him, or rather, familiar with everything the Bookwyrm has posted concerning this PC so far...
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The Sage
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Posted - 04 Jul 2004 : 03:53:40
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Anyway, onto other news...
Sometime this week (provided my work and study committments don't find a way to interrupt me), I'd like to run a 'test' of the campaign. What this means is, I'll send out a random 'file' to each and every email address that is register as a PC only. You'll then have to reply back to me. I hope to accomplish two issues with this approach. The first is that everyone who has said they are participating successfully receives all of the information. And second, testing the methods upon which this campaign rests.
It will also help me to determine who (if anyone) has dropped out of the ether and will no longer be a part of the campaign. On the plus side, those who are on the 'Diviner's List' will also likely receive an email if several players have dropped out.
So, I'm assuming that no scribe here will have a problem with any of this? If you do, let me know soon. I'll let you all know more as the time for the test approaches.
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Artalis
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Posted - 04 Jul 2004 : 04:39:22
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Anyway, onto other news...
Sometime this week (provided my work and study committments don't find a way to interrupt me), I'd like to run a 'test' of the campaign. What this means is, I'll send out a random 'file' to each and every email address that is register as a PC only. You'll then have to reply back to me. I hope to accomplish two issues with this approach. The first is that everyone who has said they are participating successfully receives all of the information. And second, testing the methods upon which this campaign rests.
It will also help me to determine who (if anyone) has dropped out of the ether and will no longer be a part of the campaign. On the plus side, those who are on the 'Diviner's List' will also likely receive an email if several players have dropped out.
So, I'm assuming that no scribe here will have a problem with any of this? If you do, let me know soon. I'll let you all know more as the time for the test approaches.
Fine by me...please send mine to threllain@chaoscat.com
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Sarta
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Posted - 04 Jul 2004 : 06:30:41
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Sounds good!
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 04 Jul 2004 : 13:18:26
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Send away! (Always eager for some progress on the game.  ) |
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The Sage
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Posted - 04 Jul 2004 : 13:35:24
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Fine by me...please send mine to threllain@chaoscat.com
Thanks!
There's was no need to provide your email address, Artalis. Part of the reason for this test was to be certain that I have every scribe's email. It saves everyone checking in here and posting their addresses. I'll simply contact those who don't respond.
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Artalis
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Posted - 05 Jul 2004 : 00:47:34
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ok whoops sorry! 
Just eager to get going... |
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Purple Dragon Knight
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Posted - 05 Jul 2004 : 17:36:20
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ok whoops sorry!
Just eager to get going...
Me too. I'm starting to think this will never happen...
Sage, mind giving us any updates or reasons why this is taking too long? Hope you're not overpreparing this, as I'd rather get going on something imperfect than wait another three months for something extremely cool. |
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