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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 27 Nov 2013 :  20:20:07  Show Profile Send SirUrza a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alruane

This makes me concerned over what else is wrong with it..



Don't be, I'm cynical and I'll explain why.

I maintain the belief that 4e was design to lasso in new players from the video game crowd not only through mechanics that are straight out of MMOs but through marketing.

This isn't the place or time for a 4e mechanics discussion, but simply put, the classes IMHO were designed to fill roles that were straight out of games like World of Warcraft.

The amount of attention Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter got in 4e I feel was obnoxious. They were selected because of their success as video games and had their importance magnified to justify the attention.

They either didn't consider it or ignored the fact that both video game franchises were too old for younger new players to have played or be interested in and any older new players who'd played or heard of those games would likely know people that play D&D and be more influenced by their "friends" to play then they would be by loose tie-in products.

Again, I'm just cynical. I would have preferred they'd tried printing a Dragonlance book instead of a Neverwinter book for 4e. They pulled that license from MWP for a reason after all.

"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
The original and unapologetic Arilyn, Aribeth, Seoni Fanboy.

Edited by - SirUrza on 27 Nov 2013 20:23:31
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Alruane
Senior Scribe

USA
434 Posts

Posted - 27 Nov 2013 :  21:20:46  Show Profile Send Alruane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Trust me I understand being cynical sometimes, I have been known to be.

Well it makes sense I suppose, table top D&D was dying out mainly due to advancing technology. And the ever popular mmo trend that came full swing in the early 2000's. Don't get me wrong, it's not dead these days but I guess it makes sense. They would create a newer edition to bring in those players and keep it relevant for the technological age.

But in all honesty, it makes sense. Sadly, but very much true. Either way, the original games, before this 4e, were intensely fun to me. And to millions of other fans.

" I wonder if you are destined to be forgotten. Will your life fade in the shadow of greater beings?"
~Joneleth Irenicus

"Wisdom? My dear boy, wisdom is knowing that you do not know everything. Wisdom is realizing, a wise man ALWAYS has questions. Not answers."

~Alruane
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Alruane
Senior Scribe

USA
434 Posts

Posted - 28 Nov 2013 :  00:27:51  Show Profile Send Alruane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
On the topic at hand though, I'd really like to delve more into Irenicus' life. Maybe have a novel about his life UP until his elven heritage was stripped from him. Maybe make it into a few novels such as:

Early stages of life

Teen to young adult learning magic

Older age as he grew to love Ellesime and wanted power for himself

His final moments as an elf, onto his capture of the Bhaalspawn, etc.


I just always found him interesting, and wanted to learn more of his past. Also to further get a better look at suldanessellar maybe? Just various points about his life, and perhaps Bhodi's.

" I wonder if you are destined to be forgotten. Will your life fade in the shadow of greater beings?"
~Joneleth Irenicus

"Wisdom? My dear boy, wisdom is knowing that you do not know everything. Wisdom is realizing, a wise man ALWAYS has questions. Not answers."

~Alruane

Edited by - Alruane on 28 Nov 2013 00:37:33
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Alruane
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USA
434 Posts

Posted - 28 Nov 2013 :  03:54:19  Show Profile Send Alruane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In general, more novels about the game itself and region would be nice. Npcs, infamous villains that may or may not still live, particular areas and organizations. Things like that.

" I wonder if you are destined to be forgotten. Will your life fade in the shadow of greater beings?"
~Joneleth Irenicus

"Wisdom? My dear boy, wisdom is knowing that you do not know everything. Wisdom is realizing, a wise man ALWAYS has questions. Not answers."

~Alruane
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Alruane
Senior Scribe

USA
434 Posts

Posted - 29 Nov 2013 :  06:54:44  Show Profile Send Alruane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bought the Enhanced Edition for the first Baldur's Gate. Definitely happy about it! Enhanced is quite remarkable to me, not to mention it was on Steam and they had it on sale. 60% off the game! ^_^

" I wonder if you are destined to be forgotten. Will your life fade in the shadow of greater beings?"
~Joneleth Irenicus

"Wisdom? My dear boy, wisdom is knowing that you do not know everything. Wisdom is realizing, a wise man ALWAYS has questions. Not answers."

~Alruane
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Askeladd
Acolyte

Sweden
3 Posts

Posted - 30 Nov 2013 :  00:15:23  Show Profile Send Askeladd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just finished both BG1 and BG2....... again. Masterpieces

Men's hearts hold shadows darker than any tainted creature.
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Alruane
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USA
434 Posts

Posted - 30 Nov 2013 :  04:49:52  Show Profile Send Alruane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Askeladd

Just finished both BG1 and BG2....... again. Masterpieces



Indeed! I highly agree, I am working on BG Enhanced Edition lately. Testing the new kits for the classes and searching for new things throughout! So far, it's VERY much worth the money. It's the old game with TONS of bonus enhancements!

" I wonder if you are destined to be forgotten. Will your life fade in the shadow of greater beings?"
~Joneleth Irenicus

"Wisdom? My dear boy, wisdom is knowing that you do not know everything. Wisdom is realizing, a wise man ALWAYS has questions. Not answers."

~Alruane
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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore

India
1591 Posts

Posted - 30 Nov 2013 :  10:57:59  Show Profile Send Thauranil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well I am glad you are enjoying it. Might just try it out myself. For nostalgia's sake.
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Alruane
Senior Scribe

USA
434 Posts

Posted - 30 Nov 2013 :  11:09:07  Show Profile Send Alruane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thauranil

Well I am glad you are enjoying it. Might just try it out myself. For nostalgia's sake.



Thanks, Thauranil!
It's not bad, it's still on sale on Steam for 7.99 60% off! If you do, get it from there.

" I wonder if you are destined to be forgotten. Will your life fade in the shadow of greater beings?"
~Joneleth Irenicus

"Wisdom? My dear boy, wisdom is knowing that you do not know everything. Wisdom is realizing, a wise man ALWAYS has questions. Not answers."

~Alruane
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