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Bakra
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Posted - 06 Mar 2012 :  15:38:58  Show Profile Send Bakra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Marc

There's too few people who worship magic to have so many magic gods, that way the number of nature and agriculture gods could be 4054. Their DvR would not go higher than 1.



I disagree because we can never really have the hard numbers. and there were safe guards in the system. If some deities shared the same portfolio then only one could rise higher than demigod. I'm sure I just muddled things for ya.

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Markustay
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Posted - 06 Mar 2012 :  16:00:42  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I really do feel FR was the 2e core world as well - it may have not been that way at the get-go, but when they saw how popular it was getting they ran with it.

Just IMO is all.

As for the gods - in the east (K-T), they have 'gods' (Kami) for each individual crop, with some being quite powerful (like the the five grain gods). They also have sprits attached to lakes, rivers, mountains, etc...

Call them archfey, or elemental spirits, Kami, Exarchs... whatever... but there are huge amounts of gods on Toril, no matter how you slice it. Maybe all of them are only demi-powers, which is why I think individual demigods for each school/source of magic could work, but they'd all be 'helpers' for a higher power. In that way, the lack of worshipers really shouldn't matter (since all would be contributing to a greater whole).

Thats why I am a big fan of FR's mini-pantheons (we really need a special name for these). Like-minded deities that work together, and are usually 'ruled' by a higher power. There are so many we never really hear about (like all those 'Saints' down in the Lands of Intrigue). The system is reminiscent of the Celestial Bureaucracy, which is a pretty good model for D&D cosmology because it is so well-structured (with mechanics built-in). High Gods rule over Greater Gods, who in-turn rule over Intermediate powers, who in-turn organize the lesser powers, who in-turn manage the Exarchs (demi-powers, Saints, Chosen, whatever).

There would be a lot of exceptions of course (like Mystra dealing directly with her Chosen), but for the most part there is a 'pecking-order'. This is also why greater gods don't just annihilate lesser gods they don't like - because each has his/her own group they belong to.

I think I just applied a 'gang' mentality to the gods.



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Edited by - Markustay on 06 Mar 2012 16:02:25
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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 06 Mar 2012 :  20:01:50  Show Profile Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Markustay

As for the gods - in the east (K-T), they have 'gods' (Kami) for each individual crop, with some being quite powerful (like the the five grain gods). They also have sprits attached to lakes, rivers, mountains, etc...


-Every grain of rice is supposed to have a Kami dancing on it. Poetic language, of course, but...

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Edited by - Lord Karsus on 06 Mar 2012 20:02:04
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Dennis
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Posted - 31 May 2012 :  08:05:40  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bakra

quote:
Originally posted by Marc

There's too few people who worship magic to have so many magic gods, that way the number of nature and agriculture gods could be 4054. Their DvR would not go higher than 1.


I disagree because we can never really have the hard numbers.


True. In addition, worshipers of magic do not come from the human population only. Not to mention some of them worship their patrons in secret, for many reasons. For one, because their faith is considered a taboo in the society where they live in.

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