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Arivia
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Posted - 03 Jul 2004 :  18:30:14  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Of course...

But, I'll give you this nice and crunchy virtual cookie, if you can guess which other profile I was talking about...

(I really don't expect you to try this though. Afterall, it's a "virtual" cookie. But then, you may be "virtually" hungry, so that's another matter entirely...)




I did anyway.

Three guesses: ripvanwormer, Seraph of Babel, Shemeska the Marauder

My best guess is Shemeska. The post count is right, and there's something niggling in the back of my mind telling me that was your account on planewalker.com-which is also Shemeska's homepage. However, the age does not match the one listed in your account here, and an ICQ number is listed. Whoever it is is also a bit more vitriolic then you are here...

*shrugs*

At least I tried.
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The Sage
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Posted - 04 Jul 2004 :  04:27:18  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message
Indeed you did . Although they are all incorrect... Sorry Both Rip and ol' Shemmy are good friends, who I regularly chat with on other PS forums, and Seraph is just another WotC constant...

Anyway, let's get back onto Eberrchat. I'd like to know what you thought about the concept of the Dragonhouses (and, to a lesser extent) the Dragonmarks?

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AlacLuin
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Posted - 05 Jul 2004 :  00:35:10  Show Profile  Visit AlacLuin's Homepage Send AlacLuin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Anyway, let's get back onto Eberrchat. I'd like to know what you thought about the concept of the Dragonhouses (and, to a lesser extent) the Dragonmarks?


From my personal position, I feel they are kind of odd.
They transend all 12 of the nations and thier position in the Last War is unclear to me, its like all the houses proffeted from the war.
I'm not sure if I'm missing something

After I posted this I thought of the old Loony Tune where Daffy Duck was selling his ACME products to both the Dog and Rooster.

Edited by - AlacLuin on 05 Jul 2004 00:55:18
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Arivia
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Posted - 05 Jul 2004 :  05:27:31  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by AlacLuin

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Anyway, let's get back onto Eberrchat. I'd like to know what you thought about the concept of the Dragonhouses (and, to a lesser extent) the Dragonmarks?


From my personal position, I feel they are kind of odd.
They transend all 12 of the nations and thier position in the Last War is unclear to me, its like all the houses proffeted from the war.
I'm not sure if I'm missing something



The houses are officially neutral(look at page 231 of the ECS), so that they may trade with all. However, they did not all benefit-especially House Cannith, which lost its leaders and one of its greatest business endeavours.

Sage: I do like how they cross border lines, as it seems that the differences between Eberron's nations are very well defined-the Houses giving a sense of continuity to that. They are a nice extension of the guilds system, also. The history of the marks themselves was explained very well, I thought.
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AlacLuin
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Posted - 06 Jul 2004 :  00:41:19  Show Profile  Visit AlacLuin's Homepage Send AlacLuin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Arivia
The houses are officially neutral(look at page 231 of the ECS), so that they may trade with all. However, they did not all benefit-especially House Cannith, which lost its leaders and one of its greatest business endeavours.


Actually, I'd disagree, House Cannith benifited greatly durring the Last War.
They created/built/SOLD the Warforged among many other things.
Sure, they lost out durring the Day of Mourning, but over the other 100 years of the war...
To continue my analagy, it's like how daffy duck got in in the end that cartoon...

The dragon marks are an interesting consept, they are like some kind of "Divine Right" (for lack of better term) to control (have a vertual monopoly) of the various industries.

In game terms, they get a spell like power related to the industry the dragonmark is related to, as the char paid a feat to get it, for the greater marks several feats are spent.
So it's not all unbalanceing.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 06 Jul 2004 :  17:09:30  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message
Dragonshards: Religion in Eberron is now up at WOTC.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 07 Jul 2004 :  23:39:05  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message
For those interested, a poster over on ENWorld's messageboard has shared some Eberron art. It can be found in the art forum and features a warforged and shifter monk (I hope I got that right). No idea on how accurate he is to the concepts, but it looks very well done.

RPGShop is also showing the first Eberron adventure as available.
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The Sage
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Posted - 08 Jul 2004 :  09:56:01  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message
You're right .

The concepts are close, but I have some minor 'nitpicks' to make which I'll likely bring up with the poster...

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hammer of Moradin
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Posted - 11 Jul 2004 :  04:09:17  Show Profile  Visit hammer of Moradin's Homepage Send hammer of Moradin a Private Message
By far my favorite items from this release are two of the new races. The Changelings and the Shifters will fit well into the Realms, methinks. The Warforged are too much. I'm glad the gnomes get their due, also. The new class, the Artificer, is too limited to be much use I think. I would have to see one in play, though. While any D&D materials can be used in Eberron, you either play D&D, or Eberron D&D. Same but different indeed.

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The Sage
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Posted - 11 Jul 2004 :  04:13:28  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message
The Artificer was deliberately created to be "limiting" in terms of choice and focus. Mr Baker has stated several times that the artificer is purely a "concept class". It was developed only for the reason it exists. It was never a consideration that this class would be chosen by multitudes of players. The Artificer, like the Magewright has a clearly defined place in the 'arcane-tech' of Eberron. And that's the way it should stay...

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Arivia
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Posted - 11 Jul 2004 :  11:40:26  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

The Artificer was deliberately created to be "limiting" in terms of choice and focus. Mr Baker has stated several times that the artificer is purely a "concept class". It was developed only for the reason it exists. It was never a consideration that this class would be chosen by multitudes of players. The Artificer, like the Magewright has a clearly defined place in the 'arcane-tech' of Eberron. And that's the way it should stay...




Yes, certainly so. Although I don't think I'm going to port the artificer to the Realms-the magewright is enough, and the artificer just doesn't seem to fit.
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The Sage
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Posted - 11 Jul 2004 :  14:07:57  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message
That's certainly true. I've already taken steps to incorporate the Magewright into my FR campaigns. My first attempt will be in Waterdeep. It seems to be the most logical place where the most innovative ideas and technologies will be on display.

What do you think Arivia?

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 11 Jul 2004 :  16:31:09  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message
I found the following piece of information over on ENWorld

quote:

Eberron's designers, Keith Baker, Jesse Decker, Bill Slavicsek and Christopher Perkins will be attending a live Q&A on Friday July 16th at 8pm EST. The chat will be held in an irc chatroom on chat.psionics.net in #eberron. If you have an IRC Client, simply click on the link above. If not, you may download one at www.mirc.com. If you don't want to use an IRC Client, go to ENworld's Chat Room. After connecting, type /join #eberron. Depending on turnout the chat will be moderated. Prepare your questions in advance!

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AlacLuin
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Posted - 12 Jul 2004 :  00:44:04  Show Profile  Visit AlacLuin's Homepage Send AlacLuin a Private Message
I made a thread over at those other boards with a whole list of things that can be done for FR with Eberron material, granted not every idea is perfect.

I will defend the Artificer class fpr the realms.
Sure it may not have much apeal for a PC, but there is some places it could work for NPCs.
Thayen enclaves, a way to have non-Mulon work for Thay.
Temples of Gond
The males makeing magic for the Ethran.
And for those that play Meztica, this a great base for the pluma weaver and Hishna shapers.
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Sarta
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Posted - 12 Jul 2004 :  02:06:58  Show Profile Send Sarta a Private Message
Given the number of helmed horrors and shield golems floating around the realms, I'd say there was room for them.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 12 Jul 2004 :  05:34:00  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by AlacLuin

I made a thread over at those other boards with a whole list of things that can be done for FR with Eberron material, granted not every idea is perfect.



Link? Or was the information you posted underneath this all that the thread contained?
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CurseLord
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Posted - 12 Jul 2004 :  06:43:41  Show Profile  Visit CurseLord's Homepage Send CurseLord a Private Message
Here is AlacLuin's thread. http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=272397
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 12 Jul 2004 :  16:16:43  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by CurseLord

Here is AlacLuin's thread. http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=272397



Thanks CurseLord for the link. My first look at the Eberron boards...a very striking background color. I see Big Sister visited the thread. I'd love to know figures as to how many gamers end up playing in the actual setting and how many simply loot the campaign for ideas within their own homebrew world.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 12 Jul 2004 :  16:21:28  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message
This month's In the Works features some information for Eberron fans. The following is about the Novemeber release, Sharn: City of Towers.

quote:

This product's release is way, way too far distant for me to have stuff to pass along for you yet. But I'll let you in on a little secret about this 192-page hardcover that details the metropolis that sprawls at the center of the Eberron campaign setting: Inside, you'll find a CD with somewhere around 45 minutes of feature film-caliber original music composed specifically for use as the background music/soundtrack for your Eberron campaign. That's all I've got for now -- just four months to go.



I'll be curious to hear what WOTC has put onto the CD and what their definition of "feature film-caliber original music" actually is.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 12 Jul 2004 :  19:12:40  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message
For those interested, the ENWorld thread featuring character portraits for Eberron has two new drawings up.
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Arivia
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Posted - 12 Jul 2004 :  21:33:15  Show Profile
For those of you looking to remedy the Eberron map problem, this will be of help.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 12 Jul 2004 :  22:11:48  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Arivia

For those of you looking to remedy the Eberron map problem, this will be of help.



Thanks for the link Arivia. That thread is the first time I've heard dissatisfaction with the Eberron map in the new issue of Dungeon.
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Arivia
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Posted - 12 Jul 2004 :  22:16:32  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Arivia

For those of you looking to remedy the Eberron map problem, this will be of help.



Thanks for the link Arivia. That thread is the first time I've heard dissatisfaction with the Eberron map in the new issue of Dungeon.



It's a very nice map. It just didn't contain what was needed so desperately-a map connecting the roads and lightning rail tracks.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 12 Jul 2004 :  22:20:00  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Arivia
It's a very nice map. It just didn't contain what was needed so desperately-a map connecting the roads and lightning rail tracks.



Sorry to hear that for the Eberron fans. I should be able to view it myself later this week or early next.
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Arivia
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Posted - 12 Jul 2004 :  22:22:16  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Arivia
It's a very nice map. It just didn't contain what was needed so desperately-a map connecting the roads and lightning rail tracks.



Sorry to hear that for the Eberron fans. I should be able to view it myself later this week or early next.



What? You're not one yet? JOIN THE REVOLUTION!
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 12 Jul 2004 :  22:38:57  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Arivia
What? You're not one yet? JOIN THE REVOLUTION!



I'll tell you what, I'll consider publicly showing support to some fan after I get the Dungeon magazine.
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AlacLuin
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Posted - 13 Jul 2004 :  00:09:44  Show Profile  Visit AlacLuin's Homepage Send AlacLuin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by CurseLord
... I see Big Sister visited the thread.


I originally had that thread in the FR boards.
(original title, “I have the new Eberron campaign setting, now what?”)

Despite the content of post was very FR in nature, she thought it belonged on the Eberron boards. :shrug:

Now, on those boards if someone asked about playing an Arcane Age campaign and was going to have a player that was a dragon rider defender of Myth Drannor and wanted to know about aerial combat, if someone suggested looking at the Dragonlance CS, that thread would be moved to the Dragonlance Boards.
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Arivia
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Posted - 13 Jul 2004 :  14:28:50  Show Profile
The latest Dragonshards article is up, discussing demographics in Eberron.
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The Sage
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Posted - 14 Jul 2004 :  13:22:16  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message
Thanks Arivia. I've been anticipating this article for nearly a week now. There's been quite a lot of discussion recently, about the population of Khorvaire. I'm pleased to see that Mr Baker followed through and posted the article.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 14 Jul 2004 :  18:52:45  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message
The author, Matt Forbeck, had some Eberron comments/thoughts in an update to his official website:

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My copy of the Eberron Campaign Setting arrived in the mail the other day. Over the months I’ve been working on Marked for Death, the first in my trilogy of Eberron novels, Wizards has sent me several copies of this book in various stages of development. The first was a 12-page brief.

The final book looks great. There’s a lot here to love if you play Dungeons & Dragons, whether you plan to run an Eberron campaign or not. It’s D&D flavored with pulpy goodness, which is right up my alley. I can only hope that many others out there share my tastes for this kind of adventure.

I also got a copy of Shadows of the Last War, the first Eberron adventure. Keith Baker, the brain behind Eberron wrote it, along with Death at Whitehearth, a short story included in a separate pamphlet. I haven’t cracked these yet, but I’m looking forward to it.

In the meantime, I wrote two pieces for an upcoming issue of Dragon Magazine. The first is a short story that serves as a prequel to Marked for Death. The second is for the “Novel Approach” column, in which I provide some game-oriented details about Marked for Death, including rules for a smaller airship (the aircutter) and for living fireballs.

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