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Light
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Posted - 03 Mar 2011 :  10:29:28  Show Profile Send Light a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Shoon VII/Zallanora Agentresses is also in Baldur's Gate II. He appears as a member of the cowled wizards if you keep violating the magic law.

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Zireael
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Posted - 03 Mar 2011 :  11:04:58  Show Profile  Visit Zireael's Homepage Send Zireael a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Light

Shoon VII/Zallanora Agentresses is also in Baldur's Gate II. He appears as a member of the cowled wizards if you keep violating the magic law.



Ooh. Color me surprised. I'm going to look for her in the BG files...

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Light
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Posted - 03 Mar 2011 :  12:02:52  Show Profile Send Light a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Zireael
Ooh. Color me surprised. I'm going to look for her in the BG files...
........I believe that colour is adequate enough.

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Alisttair
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Posted - 03 Mar 2011 :  12:44:35  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Light

Actually Alustriel, Drizzt, Elminster, Khelben and Piergeiron all appear in Baldur's Gate II as part of a challenge/riddle in the shaugin city. I won't put them in the list because they don't talk and don't do anything at all, but nevertheless I thought I'd share this with everyone.



yeah its more of a magical copy of them rather then the characters themselves.

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Light
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Posted - 04 Mar 2011 :  13:13:01  Show Profile Send Light a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair
yeah its more of a magical copy of them rather then the characters themselves.
Either that or those imps sure had some powerful friends to play with.

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Alisttair
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Posted - 04 Mar 2011 :  15:38:15  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Light

quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair
yeah its more of a magical copy of them rather then the characters themselves.
Either that or those imps sure had some powerful friends to play with.




Those imps ain't no wimps.

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Lily M Green
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Posted - 04 Mar 2011 :  22:17:02  Show Profile  Visit Lily M Green's Homepage Send Lily M Green a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Zireael

There were several more characters from Volo's Guide to the Sword Coast in Baldur's Gate. Off my head: Taerom Fuirum surely. I don't have time right now to check several others...

@ Light: Maybe putting the novel/sourcebook in which the character is (aside from the most-wellknown) would be a good idea?



Madam Litaar from The Threat From The Sea trilogy is one who features (In Volo's Guide under the section for Velen) but the description of her home is different from that which appears in the novels IIRC and didn't know you could encounter her in game?

Drizzit & Artemis are unlockable playable characters in the Baldur's Gate : Dark Alliance games but they don't actually add much to the experience TBH.

BTW: Does anyone know if 'Jherek' from the dark alliance games is the same one from Threat from the Sea?

ETA: Uh, sorry, Alystra already mentioned the DA playables.... Serves me right for jumping in.

ETA: Again! I might be wrong but I believe that Alyth @ the Elfsong Tavern in Dark Alliance is canon.

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Zireael
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Posted - 05 Mar 2011 :  08:02:19  Show Profile  Visit Zireael's Homepage Send Zireael a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Alyth is also in the Baldur's Gate I and yes, she's canon (she's in FRCS, as is the leader of the thieves' guild of Baldur's Gate, can't remember his name).

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Light
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Posted - 05 Mar 2011 :  09:00:27  Show Profile Send Light a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Zireael

Alyth is also in the Baldur's Gate I and yes, she's canon (she's in FRCS, as is the leader of the thieves' guild of Baldur's Gate, can't remember his name).

Will add Alyth and Ravenscar (thieve's guild leader). Actually are all the people mentioned in Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate (in the bg manual of course) canon? Because Bentley Mirrorshade, Kelddath Ormlyr and Taerom Fuiruim are all in there and are also mentioned elsewhere.

quote:
Originally posted by Lily M Green
Madam Litaar from The Threat From The Sea trilogy is one who features (In Volo's Guide under the section for Velen) but the description of her home is different from that which appears in the novels IIRC and didn't know you could encounter her in game?
Um..you've lost me. Are you saying that she is in the game?

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Lily M Green
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Posted - 05 Mar 2011 :  12:40:17  Show Profile  Visit Lily M Green's Homepage Send Lily M Green a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Zireael

Alyth is also in the Baldur's Gate I and yes, she's canon (she's in FRCS, as is the leader of the thieves' guild of Baldur's Gate, can't remember his name).



Kharne (Karne)? If that's who you mean then hat's really useful to know, I've been searching for some more information on him. Thanks :)

& Light, sorry for the confusion. I didn't / don't think that you could actually meet her (Madame Litaar) in game but she's listed in Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II. Good scroll btw!

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup.

A Dark Alliance - Beyond Baldur's Gate

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Zireael
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Poland
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Posted - 05 Mar 2011 :  13:13:50  Show Profile  Visit Zireael's Homepage Send Zireael a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Actually are all the people mentioned in Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate (in the bg manual of course) canon? Because Bentley Mirrorshade, Kelddath Ormlyr and Taerom Fuiruim are all in there and are also mentioned elsewhere.


They are, see Volo's Guide to the Sword Coast.

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Light
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Posted - 05 Mar 2011 :  14:41:03  Show Profile Send Light a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lily M Green
Good scroll btw!
Thanks!

Unfortunately though I believe that the 'thief guild leader' that Zireael was talking about would be Ravenscar (forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Ravenscar) as opposed to Kharne. Kharne was my favourite character in the Dark Alliance series and unfortunately there seems to be nothing on him.

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Zireael
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Posted - 05 Mar 2011 :  16:13:24  Show Profile  Visit Zireael's Homepage Send Zireael a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I meant Ravenscar.

EDIT: Renal Bloodscalp, from Baldur's Gate II, is canon (Lands of Intrigue).

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Light
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Posted - 08 Mar 2011 :  11:47:03  Show Profile Send Light a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Renal Bloodscalp will be added. Actually I always disliked this guy, he always seemed up himself. Never could kill him though or Arkanis Gath would appear and BAM!

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Alisttair
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Posted - 08 Mar 2011 :  12:56:47  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That's like taking Drizzt's stuff. You can play with his toys for only a little while until I think it's Malchor Harpell who comes to take it away (so ummm, add Harpell to the list for BG2)

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BlackAce
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Posted - 08 Mar 2011 :  13:12:13  Show Profile Send BlackAce a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not really a novel apperance but pretty much every NPC in Mulsantir in NWN2: Mask of the Betrayer is lifted straight from the Mulsantir entry in Unapproachable East.
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Alisttair
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Posted - 08 Mar 2011 :  13:55:39  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ophala Cheldarstorn of the Moonstone Mask. She is I believe in NWN 1. She is also I think in Volo's Guide to the North.

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Light
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Posted - 09 Mar 2011 :  06:13:59  Show Profile Send Light a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BlackAce

Not really a novel apperance but pretty much every NPC in Mulsantir in NWN2: Mask of the Betrayer is lifted straight from the Mulsantir entry in Unapproachable East.
I don't have either of the NWN2 expansion so unfortunately there isn't really anyway for me to check on their names. I was thinking of buying them though and hoping that they will still play on the computer (computer is unfortunately lacking in a quality video card these days).

"A true warrior needs no sword" - Thors (Vinland Saga)

Edited by - Light on 09 Mar 2011 06:15:56
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Zireael
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Poland
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Posted - 10 Mar 2011 :  08:58:26  Show Profile  Visit Zireael's Homepage Send Zireael a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BlackAce

Not really a novel apperance but pretty much every NPC in Mulsantir in NWN2: Mask of the Betrayer is lifted straight from the Mulsantir entry in Unapproachable East.



Sheva Whitefeather, Fyldrin of the Eleven Chairs, Shelvedar Nuum. Confirmed.

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MisterX
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Posted - 03 Jul 2011 :  02:34:38  Show Profile Send MisterX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
May I ask where excactly Artemis entrery is being encountered in BG2?

I've lost track of recent realmslore, since my campaigns are still in the 1370ies. :-)
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Zireael
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Poland
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Posted - 03 Jul 2011 :  10:04:23  Show Profile  Visit Zireael's Homepage Send Zireael a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MisterX

May I ask where excactly Artemis entrery is being encountered in BG2?



In Bodhi's lair, when you come to destroy her. I think he shows up only if we get Drizzt to help, though.

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Thieran
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Posted - 03 Jul 2011 :  11:55:35  Show Profile Send Thieran a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I always wondered whether the Hosttower mage Sydney Natale who plays some role in Neverwinter Nights 2 might be the Hosttower mage Sydney from Streams of Silver. The latter - an acquaintance of Harkle Harpell, BTW - is killed by Catti-Brie at the end of the book, as far as I remember, so either NWN2's Sydney Natale (NWN2 is set before SoS, see below) is an homage, or she was raised after C-B killed her.

Clues (apart from the same name and them belonging to the Hosttower):
In Streams of Silver, Sydney (no further name is given, I think) is described as being ambitious, "car[ing] little for physical appearances" and being 25 years old - all three features fit the NWN2 character nicely: compare the NWN2 in-game description "Heavyset with unkempt hair and a frumpy dress, this Luskan mage still carries herself with a regal bearing"; NWN2-Sydney is indeed not the most beautiful figure in the game ( http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071009185251/nwn2/images/thumb/5/50/Sydney_natale.jpg/327px-Sydney_natale.jpg ), and she is depicted as a middle-aged woman (see picture): Streams of Silver is set in 1356 DR and NWN2 in 1374 DR, so SoS-Sydney would have been 43 years old in 1374 DR.

What do you think? Too many coincidences there for my taste.
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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 03 Jul 2011 :  15:28:39  Show Profile Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

...and at one point you get to play as Drizzt.


-Funnest part in an otherwise underwhelming and somewhat crappy game.

-Don't know if it's relevant or not, but the Undrentide Enclave is canon, now. Not the events in the video game, but it's existence itself.

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Tamsar
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Posted - 03 Aug 2011 :  00:49:21  Show Profile Send Tamsar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Been a while but I'm pretty sure the owner of the Elfsong Tavern is in BG, 1/2 elf female Ranger7 Alyth Elendara. Mentioned in Volos guide to the Sword Coast.

Edit: Nvm, I see she is already on the List.

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Tamsar
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Posted - 03 Aug 2011 :  00:53:47  Show Profile Send Tamsar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Surely there must have been some canon NPC's in Descent to Undermountain. Been ages since I tried playing it, but I'm pretty sure I recall at least Durnan, as you start off in the yawning Portal.

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Light
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Posted - 31 Aug 2011 :  08:07:05  Show Profile Send Light a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well I'm back from the dead and it's time for an overhaul of this scroll. I've changed to format of the character index so that it 1) looks better and 2) is easier to use. Also now included in the opening post is a status update of all 'pending' characters and other 'notes'. Sorry to everyone who has posted since I dropped off the face of the earth (it's just a couple of posts though).
quote:
Originally posted by Tamsar

Surely there must have been some canon NPC's in Descent to Undermountain. Been ages since I tried playing it, but I'm pretty sure I recall at least Durnan, as you start off in the yawning Portal.

Unfortunately I don't have the game....maybe I'll try to get it or maybe I'll see if I can track down a walktrhough that might tell me the name of some characters that appear in it or something...

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Edited by - Light on 31 Aug 2011 08:09:29
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Thieran
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Posted - 31 Aug 2011 :  10:51:12  Show Profile Send Thieran a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My suggestion regarding Sydney didn't convince you, then?
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Zireael
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Poland
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Posted - 31 Aug 2011 :  16:04:28  Show Profile  Visit Zireael's Homepage Send Zireael a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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# Fyldrin of the Eleven Chairs (reference needed [credit: Zireael]
# Shelvedar Nuum (reference needed) [credit: Zireael]
# Sheva Whitefeather (reference needed) [credit: Zireael]


They all appear in NWN 2 MotB, and are in canon Unapproachable East sourcebook.

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Light
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Posted - 01 Sep 2011 :  07:02:45  Show Profile Send Light a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thieran

My suggestion regarding Sydney didn't convince you, then?

I guess your reasoning is sound but.....it's all speculation. I'll put it into the notes section or maybe the pending. Who knows, maybe one day I'll come around.
quote:
Originally posted by Thieran

They all appear in NWN 2 MotB, and are in canon Unapproachable East sourcebook.
Aha! Yes they are! Page 146 in fact.

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Thelonius
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In your list I don't see Ribald. He is mentioned in Baldur's Gate I and appears as the Adventurer's Mart shop owner in Waukeen's Promenade in Shadows of Amn. I think he is cannon character, yet not sure of the sourcebook he appears in.

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