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Dracons
Learned Scribe
USA
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 Posted - 18 Jul 2010 : 04:32:01
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So, is there any lore or information on any of the big villains childhoods?
I'm curious as to what kind of games that Fzoul did. (Tag? Hide and Seek? Was he a momma's boy who ran to her for cookies?)
What about Szass Tam? Did he ever have a first kiss as a preteen? Maybe this girl was a vampire, and thus his love of undead and necromancy.
Larloch! Did he have an older brother or sister? Was he ever grounded by his parents?
All creatures are defined by how they are raised and taught by their guardians. I'm wondering what kind of childhood they had. (The earlier the better)
I mean did any parent hug their newborn child, smile and go "Oh my, your such a little angel... your going to rule Thay and kill so many!"
What about afterwards. Did any bullies of Fzoul crap their pants at the idea that Bane's super pet may go after them? Did any of the parents of any Zuiklers regret not spanking or punishing their child enough.
I know, stupid question. Just curious as to what childhood any of these may had. The younger the better. No doubt in my mind that not all of them were evil from birth. They were at one point naive and trusting of adults, scared of death, crying at night for their parents.
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 18 Jul 2010 : 05:14:44
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| The only villain's childhood I have ever seen detailed was Artemis Entreri's. There was a short story, and also quite a bit of background when he went home at the end of the last novel. |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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Dracons
Learned Scribe
USA
299 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2010 : 05:28:32
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Yeah, I read about that too. It's why he hates parents that try to use children as protection.
Part of the reason I'm wanting to learn more about other villain's past. |
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Thauramarth
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
729 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2010 : 09:28:11
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| There were some bits about Manshoon's early years in either Ruins of Zhentil Keep or Vilain's Lorebook (I think - books nor regular laptop with PDFs with me right now). Not much about his actual childhood, as I remember, but something about his formative years (where he did in his older brother). Plus, in a recent post, Big Ed has all but confirmed that Manshoon still has a surviving sister and some nephews / nieces running around. |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2010 : 09:48:56
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| On the topic, there were bits of Sememmon and Ashemmi's childhood in the Dragon article about them. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2010 : 22:02:48
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My story in RotD contained a book that was supposedly an autobiography of Szass Tam . . . but even the characters in the story were pretty sure it was a fake. 
Rest assured that villains do indeed have childhood stories--mine certainly do, and I hope to drop hints and whatnot throughout my work.
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'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2010 : 22:23:16
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You can learn a lot about a villain by looking into his past...
His family, his loves, his education...
Very interesting subject. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2010 : 23:44:37
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But I'm one of the 'good guys'! 
Point for you - that was a rather ironic spelling error. |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 : 01:14:01
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
It happens to the best of us, MT. Particularly if the button does not register when you type a letter. I get that problem a lot, too.... On-topic, what about Jarlaxle's childhood? That would be an interesting story, for certain! I'd especially like to know the part about how/why he survived being "sacrificed" as a babe. What was THAT all about?!
Well...Jarlaxle was dropped on his head just after birth and was dead for long enough that when he was revived it was all good   |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 : 01:30:30
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
My story in RotD contained a book that was supposedly an autobiography of Szass Tam . . . but even the characters in the story were pretty sure it was a fake.
Strangely enough, this particular snippet became a curious possibility for a piece of Realms-music I *tried* to compose. But I just can't seem to find the right mix of byzantine intrigue to drop into the piece.  |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 : 10:32:27
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
It happens to the best of us, MT. Particularly if the button does not register when you type a letter. I get that problem a lot, too.... On-topic, what about Jarlaxle's childhood? That would be an interesting story, for certain! I'd especially like to know the part about how/why he survived being "sacrificed" as a babe. What was THAT all about?!
There were a few fanfics covering Jarlaxle's childhood. Do a google search for "Dragon Library". |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2010 : 18:00:15
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You're not talking about the one where he finds a portal and has... relations... with Hermione Granger, are you?
I was so disgusted by it, I had to read it six times (in disbelief)!
Just kidding, BTW... if such a thing exists then there is someone more warped then I... |
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