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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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 Posted - 06 Nov 2008 : 21:16:48
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The other way to interpret that blurb from BC's next novel (not sure if I quoted it here or in the other thread, but it had to do with the main character having NO memory of the Spellplague) is that he doesn't remember because he didn't live through it.
He's from an alternate timeline where the Spellplague never happened. 
That might seem a little far-fetched, but if you recall Bruce did use that plot device before in Darkvision, and having a character from an alternate quantum universe gives them a convenient way of 'ersaing' 4eFR if it doesn't pan-out eventually. |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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Uzzy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Nov 2008 : 19:44:24
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Wonderful stuff. Really is!
4th Edition Realms gets better and better. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 07 Nov 2008 : 22:14:02
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To be 100% fair about this, the original poster of that spoiler has now completed the novel, and there are indications that that 'vision' wasn't accurate at all.
I haven't read the book, nor plan to, but what's the piont of a vision if its not accuate? 
I'm thinking it was the way Shar planned for it all to work out, but the reality of what happened was a bit different.
I have to be fair, here, so it looks like that 'jaw-dropping' moment was meant to do exactly that. Maybe the 4e guys thought it would create 'buzz' or something. 
Either way, its pretty obvious that they have left it open still, and they can go back and change whatever they want (they've been leaving everything that way - it seems to be a 'theme' for 4e).
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Stout Heart
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 17 Nov 2008 : 21:21:57
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 17 Nov 2008 : 21:37:38
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Originally posted by Uzzy
Wonderful stuff. Really is!
4th Edition Realms gets better and better.
-I couldn't have said any better myself!   
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"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Thomas M. Reid
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
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Posted - 03 Dec 2008 : 00:18:21
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Originally posted by Bakra
Has anyone in this thread read the book? If you refuse to buy the book then at least go to the local bookstore/library. Once there, read the last three chapters before complaining. From what I read in the spoiler supplied to us by Markustay, a mortal was given a vision. In this vision they see how Mystra was murdered. Visions are dream like in nature and just like dreams open to interpretation. (Does the sun in my dream represent the big ball of gas in the sky or my father or my Father?) Visions/prophecies are divine gifts from a spiritual being, say a deity for example. The question is which deity? Cyric? Shar? Savras? The Sage or Ed or anyone else can correct me if I’m wrong but a Greater Power (Prince of lies) can block Lesser Powers (Savras) when it comes to divination magic. Now if a reader of this thread has read the book and would like to contribute, please do. Don't be afraid, we don't bite that hard.
Wow. I go away for a few weeks to finish a deadline, and I come back to much ranting and gnashing of teeth. I thought I'd better speak up before everyone decides to hang me in effigy.
To clear everything up, Bakra is quite correct. The imagery described for Mystra's death at the hands of Cyric was, purely and simply, a vision. It was not to be taken literally. Honestly, the means of her death wasn't important to my plot, and in fact, I was given strict instructions not to have the characters interact directly with the gods. So that's what I came up with. It may not please you, and that's fine, but just so we're clear, I was not trying to accurately portray what happened to the gods themselves, and in fact wanted to keep them as aloof and as mysterious as possible. Hence a magic-induced vision intended STRICTLY as abstract imagery.
Furthermore, no one at WotC concocted any of the details, nor did they give me any specific instructions on how to represent it. I just knew that Cyric killed Mystra with Shar's help, and I needed to make it known in the book. I had an advanced set of information on the fallout of the Spellplague and knew which gods lived and died. I came up with the idea that Cyric used Azuth's staff to slay her on my own so that I could incorporate the act of its theft into my plot.
Finally, I absolutely had no intention of hinting that Mystra is somehow still alive within the staff. There was no requirement of such from WotC, and as far as I know, she's completely and truly dead. Though I never actually included this in the prose, my assumption was that the staff was destroyed in the process. However, if you want to assume otherwise, that's perfectly cool with me.
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"A knight is not truly virtuous, only truly resolved to be so."
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 03 Dec 2008 : 01:57:04
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| Thanks for all the info Mr.Reid. It definately worked out better that the characters didn't deal directly with the gods, keeping a lot for the imagination and also for some DMs who want to use the events surrounding Mystra's death for a home game. |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
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Acolyte
Canada
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Posted - 04 Oct 2010 : 05:00:59
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I know this is two years old, but another thread basically led me to this one.
I just finished The Ghost King which is what prompted me on a little info gathering journey and lead to the thread mentioned.
Are we ever going to get to know HOW Mystra was offed in reality? I suppose I just have difficulty believing she wouldn't have a contingency of some sort or would be so easily killed off.
I read in this little info gathering that of the Chosen, there are only three left, El, Storm and The Simbul (I think) and of the three, two of them (El and Sim) are pretty much mad whenever they use magic. Is that canon or just the Wiki gone nuts?
Something else I read is that the major effects of the Spellplague only lasted 10 years and after that magic basically returned to normal, but people are speaking of a time-line 100 years later still being majorly affected. I know there are areas where SP never went away but now I'm a little confused.
I'm new to this forum, BTW. I just think most of the people I've read comments on are really knowledgeable and interesting so please pardon my rather limited and novice knowledge. |
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The Fractured Sky ***SPOILER ALERT!!!***
