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Lord Rad
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Posted - 02 Apr 2004 :  12:54:08  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
First of all, this is one hell of a great novel! The story has kept me gripped all way (only about 60 pages left), plenty of flavor and variety and has got me quite interested in Elversult (makes note to check FR products later).

Fendel is a very likable character, Corwin on the other hand is not, hes quite abrupt, rude and unappreciative! Anyway, ive give more of a review once ive finished the book, but at the moment, I highty recommend it, a shame that the author (Drew Karpyshyn isnt still writing for FR).

One thing that did puzzle me, one two occassions, measurements were given which didnt add up at all:

1) Corwin uses a device to pry open metal bars on a warehouse chimney..... which is "several feet across", whereas they were told that Corwin would only just be able to squeeze through.....providing he didnt wear his bulky armor!

2) Fendel hands Corwin a walking stick...which is "several inches round"...wow thats one hell of a thick walking stick

Did anyone else notice this? Did the author mean other units of measurement or am I reading this all wrong?

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The Sage
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Posted - 03 Apr 2004 :  09:12:53  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
An interesting question Rad...

As I recall, this was asked some time ago on the WotC Message Boards, but there was never any reply.

I wonder if there is a way we can contact the author, or better yet, maybe one of the visiting Realms-scholars who frequent Candlekeep can help locate Drew Karpyshyn...

I would think that in these types of situations, the author's use of those standard units of measurement was simply an oversight...

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Lord Rad
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Posted - 03 Apr 2004 :  09:51:47  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Interesting. At least it wasnt just me then who spotted it

I was looking around for contact information for Drew Karpyshyn yesterday but didnt come up with anything at all. Simply to praise him on such a fantastic novel. So far, with just Jewel of Turmish to go, these Cities novels are certainly hidden treasures of the Realms - some of the best FR novels ive read!

How did you enjoy the novel, Sage?

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The Sage
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Posted - 03 Apr 2004 :  13:31:55  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As I have said elsewhere, I did enjoy Temple Hill, but I just found the characterization of Corwin a little bland.

Although, now that I come to think of it, I was reading a particularly engrossing DL novel at the same time as I was reading Temple Hill, so maybe my enjoyment for this particular Realms novel was spoiled by my intense devotion to a certain DL novel.

Perhaps I should read it again...

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Lord Rad
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Posted - 03 Apr 2004 :  18:00:45  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Perhaps I should read it again...



You sure as hell better do!

...and id keep the mention of putting DL before FR if I were you...ya never know which bearded old.... er..... anyway, back to my Realmslore work

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The Sage
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Posted - 04 Apr 2004 :  09:44:58  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Don't worry Rad, I've already decided to start reading Temple Hill again, just to give you a more far and balance review later.

It wasn't easy though, I had to put the latest Feist work on hold just so I can devote all of my concentration to this one FR book...

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The Red Walker
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Good book so far. Nice to see a Gnome every now and then isn't it? Fendel isn't as scatterbrained as most depictions so he is a nice addition.
Corin is a nice reminder of how far a man can sink if he loses his purpose in life. As well as how one can be restored if only they find something to live for again.
The little part-elf theif, well shes seems fairly shallow and just there to spur Corins' reclamation...but I am only 1/3 done , o maybe she will develop past dancing the night away one night , pulling a job next night...rinse and repeat

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Hawkins
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Posted - 14 Aug 2008 :  16:50:33  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I loved the book, but I, too, found the description of the walking stick that was "several inches round" confusing. All around he is an excellent writer (one of the writing leads on the Baldur's Gate series and KotOR I video games, also wrote the amazing Darth Bane novels for Star Wars.

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Posted - 14 Aug 2008 :  18:40:26  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A nice little story, for sure. I remembered the gnome, and yes, it was nice how he was actually portrayed as competent.

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 18 Aug 2008 :  19:35:31  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe the stick was "several incehs round", then the rest of it is square!


Nearing the finins and looks like Corin gets to have a final duel with Graal. Even with his new arm and Fendal's magic sword, Corin should still be at a disadvantage, since we have learned that not only does Graal's sword transfer vitality from his opponents upon striking them , but his armour is more than ordinary as well.

Oh , well since Ihate really dont care for Orcs (half-orc whatever), I hope Graal dies most horribly! If so I will dthink about taking Corin and his "twin swords" to battle Obould....oooppss to late, looks like Obbie had already battled a twin sword weilder

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Tremaine
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Posted - 26 Sep 2010 :  11:11:25  Show Profile Send Tremaine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
recently finished rereading this novel and enjoyed it very much but was wondering if there were any more charcters like Corin with a disablity and became a lead charcter in a realm novel
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swifty
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Posted - 26 Sep 2010 :  16:52:49  Show Profile  Visit swifty's Homepage Send swifty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
the cities series for me is up there as being one of the best.

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Lord of Bones
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Posted - 02 Oct 2010 :  15:45:29  Show Profile  Visit Lord of Bones's Homepage Send Lord of Bones a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This novel is actually one of my favourites set in the Forgotten Realms. I enjoyed the story, protagonists and antagonists (especially that bastard orog), but it also drew me to run a game in Elversult, and it became the jumping off point for the longest FR game I've ever run.

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