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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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 Posted - 05 Aug 2008 : 16:17:14
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| Kia and Monk: Perfectly well put. Thanks for weighing in on the issue. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
628 Posts |
Posted - 06 Aug 2008 : 14:21:51
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Thank you Garen.
I wrote and mailed my letter yesterday (August 6th)
Anyone else?
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I hope Candlekeep continues to be the friendly forum of fellow Realms-lovers that it has always been, as we all go through this together. If you don’t want to move to the “new” Realms, that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with either you or the “old” Realms. Goodness knows Candlekeep, and the hearts of its scribes, are both big enough to accommodate both. If we want them to be.
(Strikes dramatic pose, raises sword to gleam in the sunset, and hopes breeches won’t fall down.)
Enough for now. The Realms lives! I have spoken! Ale and light wines half price, served by a smiling Storm Silverhand fetchingly clad in thigh-high boots and naught else! Ahem . .
So saith Ed. <snip>
love to all,
THO
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Sanishiver
Senior Scribe
USA
476 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2008 : 03:54:16
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Mine is too long and needs to be edited down.
Still intend to send it this month though. |
09/20/2008: Tiger Army at the Catalyst in Santa Cruz. You wouldn’t believe how many females rode it out in the pit. Santa Cruz women are all of them beautiful. Now I know to add tough to that description.
6/27/2008: WALL-E is about the best damn movie Pixar has ever made. It had my heart racing and had me rooting for the good guy.
9/9/2006: Dave Mathews Band was off the hook at the Shoreline Amphitheater.
Never, ever read the game books too literally, or make such assumptions that what is omitted cannot be. Bad DM form, that.
And no matter how compelling a picture string theory paints, if it does not accurately describe our universe, it will be no more relevant than an elaborate game of Dungeons and Dragons. --paragraph 1, chapter 9, The Elegant Universe by Brian Greene |
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monknwildcat
Learned Scribe
USA
285 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2008 : 16:09:05
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Way to go, Bakra! 
Like Sanishriver, my letter's a WIP, waiting to see the FRCG/FRCS when released. But it will be mailed this month. |
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Pandora
Learned Scribe
Germany
305 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2008 : 23:48:26
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Originally posted by Garen Thal
I am all for people withholding money from a company that doesn’t provide the product or serve that they ask for. A company that doesn’t earn your money doesn’t deserve your money.
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And that’s the real fear I have. Not that FR4E will succeed, but that it and DDI will fail so miserably that the only support we will see past year’s end will be a smattering of articles and a few novels. Once DDI is in full swing, there will be no way of tracking numbers to see which people are subscribing in the hopes of FR content, and if so, what kind. That’s why direct communication with the company is so important.
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What I hear in those voices is fans saying to one another, “I’m leaving, and no matter what they do, it will be too little and too late. The betrayal is unforgivable.” If FR fans feel like WotC can't win them back, then that's an individual decision for them to make. What I hear from WotC, though, is “if that’s how you feel, I’ll just find someone new.” And they mean it. Alienating FR fans isn't something they intended to do, but if that winds up happening, they have the ability to find a new market by making FR into something their general D&D audience will like. We don't have the ability to wrest FR from their hands, and, lacking that ability, I think it's in everyone's best interests to tell WotC what we want out of the Realms before they look at the numbers and start making even more changes we might not like.
At the moment WotC will not get any more money from me unless it is for old products that I still dont have (mostly missing novels due to a longer break there). The radical (and mostly badly explained / unreasonable) changes they made are simply too much to bear after 25+ years of playing the game and buying the products!
My fear is that 4e will be a success and that Dungeons & Dragons will change from a "roleplaying game" into a "paper version of an MMORPG". IMO the most important part is the roleplaying part, because you cant really see where you are going compared to a fight with 5 trolls. Society offers bigger risks than monsters of which you will know the stats after a while.
The only way WotC could regain my support would be if they would keep on supporting previous editions with novels and maybe a few adjustments to the rules. A 3.75 edition would be easily doable, because most of the pitfalls of 3.5 are known by now and could easily be changed. This would end the endlessly repeating whine of "3.5 is broken" and they could even offer multiple ways to change some spells / problems. To me it is simply ridiculous to throw away all of the previous material that has ever been written. |
If you cant say what youre meaning,
you can never mean what youre saying.
- Centauri Minister of Intelligence, Babylon 5 |
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
628 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 12:56:32
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Originally posted by Sanishiver
Mine is too long and needs to be edited down.
Still intend to send it this month though.
Glad to see you are writing one Sanishiver! I’m no longer alone!! A bit of advice, don’t use crayon. They don’t like crayon for some reason. |
I hope Candlekeep continues to be the friendly forum of fellow Realms-lovers that it has always been, as we all go through this together. If you don’t want to move to the “new” Realms, that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with either you or the “old” Realms. Goodness knows Candlekeep, and the hearts of its scribes, are both big enough to accommodate both. If we want them to be.
(Strikes dramatic pose, raises sword to gleam in the sunset, and hopes breeches won’t fall down.)
Enough for now. The Realms lives! I have spoken! Ale and light wines half price, served by a smiling Storm Silverhand fetchingly clad in thigh-high boots and naught else! Ahem . .
So saith Ed. <snip>
love to all,
THO
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
628 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 13:03:28
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Originally posted by monknwildcat
Way to go, Bakra!
Like Sanishriver, my letter's a WIP, waiting to see the FRCG/FRCS when released. But it will be mailed this month.
Thanks Monknwildcat!
Now there are three of us.
And as I said above don’t use crayon.
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I hope Candlekeep continues to be the friendly forum of fellow Realms-lovers that it has always been, as we all go through this together. If you don’t want to move to the “new” Realms, that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with either you or the “old” Realms. Goodness knows Candlekeep, and the hearts of its scribes, are both big enough to accommodate both. If we want them to be.
(Strikes dramatic pose, raises sword to gleam in the sunset, and hopes breeches won’t fall down.)
Enough for now. The Realms lives! I have spoken! Ale and light wines half price, served by a smiling Storm Silverhand fetchingly clad in thigh-high boots and naught else! Ahem . .
So saith Ed. <snip>
love to all,
THO
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 17:31:26
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Finally, Rich Baker himself has said (and I don't want this to sound like something negative regarding Rich, I actually appreciated the candor), that WOTC going into 4th edition wasn't worried about those of us that have been here for a while, because if they keep trying to make us happy, they may not pick up new people that they want to bring into the setting. It sounds like long term fans are incidental to this marketing plan.
They have made it abundantly clear that the core FR fans are meaningless in their eyes. The attempt to get new Warcraft fans is more important then pleasing the old timers
Why not create a new setting? Why screw us over? |
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 17:33:06
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Originally posted by Brian R. James
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Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
My last advice still stands: go work for Paizo while they're still recruiting! as a business grad, I can sense a shift when one is coming...
Unless Paizo suddenly acquires the right to distribute material for the Forgotten Realms this statement is meaningless to me. My passion is for the Realms, not for Wizards of the Coast or the latest cool 3rd party publisher or setting of the month. You know where you're going to find *me* 10 years from now? Right here on Candlekeep.com reading posts about how crappy 6th edition is and how great the 5th edition sourcebook were. Some of you may be ready to abandon the Realms (as is certainly your right) but I'm in this for the long haul.
and hopefully, the 6th edition realms is set in the 1380s |
When hinges creak in doorless chambers and strange and frightening sounds echo through the halls, whenever candlelights flicker where the air is deathly still, that is the time when ghosts are present, practicing their terror with ghoulish delight. |
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 17:40:01
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
What's being ignored everytime someone says this is the fact that a lot of people like buying new products, and they like seeing the setting go into new and interesting places. And for many people, this doesn't include nuking everything.
Yeah. I can't understand why people don't get that. I like buying supplements. I liked keeping in touch with the new developments. I hate what they done to my fun |
When hinges creak in doorless chambers and strange and frightening sounds echo through the halls, whenever candlelights flicker where the air is deathly still, that is the time when ghosts are present, practicing their terror with ghoulish delight. |
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 17:48:37
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Originally posted by Sanishiver
It’s still the Realms. So what if the Spellplague happened?
No. It is not. Not by a long shot |
When hinges creak in doorless chambers and strange and frightening sounds echo through the halls, whenever candlelights flicker where the air is deathly still, that is the time when ghosts are present, practicing their terror with ghoulish delight. |
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 18:00:29
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Originally posted by Garen Thal
-Tell them what you don't like. Avoid making too many references here to changes that aren't up for consideration (for example, the introduction of Tymanther, the killing of Mystra, or the advancement of the timeline).
Therein lies the problem. It is just too late to save the Realms |
When hinges creak in doorless chambers and strange and frightening sounds echo through the halls, whenever candlelights flicker where the air is deathly still, that is the time when ghosts are present, practicing their terror with ghoulish delight. |
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FR 4E: Garen Speaks
