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ShadezofDis
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 Posted - 11 Apr 2008 : 13:35:15
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Originally posted by Halaster Blackcloak
Greetings! Long time member, but generally too busy to post. Anyway, as is probably obvious by my screen name, I was appalled to hear that Halaster was killed, especially by something as mundane as an earthquake. 
I refuse to believe this. There was something else going on at the time.
Heck, could be possible that Halaster started seeing the shadows move again and just could take the thought of Shar driving him batty again.
Could be that his insanity created an unintended link with Asmodeus which Asmodeus started to exploit. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 11 Apr 2008 : 14:48:11
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| Just for everyone's information, a "worm that walks" is a monster from the Epic Level Sourcebook (don't know if that was the exact title). |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 11 Apr 2008 15:12:37 |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 11 Apr 2008 : 15:02:49
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Just for everyone's information, a "worm that walks" is a monster from the Epic Level Sourcebook (don't know if that was the [i[exact[/i] title).
Yeah, it's some funky form of undead that consists of a bunch of worms that for some reason wander around in the shape of a humanoid. |
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glitter
Acolyte
France
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Posted - 11 Apr 2008 : 16:54:21
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
"This just in, Halaster Blackcloak of UnderMountain is still dead . . . back to you Jane."
Well, from what we can read from the book, specially about his soul, we can easily assume that he wil remain dead since a "simple" resurrection couldn't be enough.
On the other hand, the book itself gives us a lot of information of how his soul even in "little pieces" can be used in an adventure.
For me, a simple divine intervention would be enough to fix the problem.
Anyway, I really like that character, and hope to see him again.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 11 Apr 2008 : 17:17:43
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Originally posted by glitter
For me, a simple divine intervention would be enough to fix the problem.
An interesting possibility. However, it sets a dangerous precedent. And it's highly unlikely that whichever god decides to resurrect Halaster, would do so for free. It's going to *cost* him something.
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
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Posted - 12 Apr 2008 : 21:37:38
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by glitter
For me, a simple divine intervention would be enough to fix the problem.
An interesting possibility. However, it sets a dangerous precedent. And it's highly unlikely that whichever god decides to resurrect Halaster, would do so for free. It's going to *cost* him something.
Undermountain becomes a crucible and testing ground for the faithful of X....or worse yet, a temple complex....  
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Halaster Blackcloak
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 13 Apr 2008 : 02:28:48
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Halaster becomes a Chosen of Orcus, returns as a lich, and the entirety of Undermountain becomes his phylactery.  
All you have to do to destroy Halaster (in lich form) is to destroy all of Undermountain. Ha!
I toyed with that idea once.
But no, I don't like such drastic changes to fundamental aspects of the campaign world. As Ed wrote in RoU:
"He [Halaster] is one of the great mysteries and terrors of this part of the Realms, and the wise DM will keep him so."
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 13 Apr 2008 : 04:02:33
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| Here's an idea I just had... What if some bits of Halaster were joined to some remaining bit of Ibrandul? Yeah, I know Shar slew Ibrandul during the ToT, but what if Halaster joined with some remaining bit of Ibrandul and became something like a Chosen, maybe even more powerful, but bound entirely to Undermountain? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 13 Apr 2008 : 04:24:36
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| Perhaps Mystra was responsible for orchestrating this transformation into an remnant Halaster/Ibrandul combination -- whereupon the Halaster/Ibrandul form becomes a Chosen-like entity in the service of the Lady of Mysteries. It does, after all, relate in some way, to what Ed has said about Mystra possibly having some *plan* for Halaster. This transformation may simply be a part of that plan. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 13 Apr 2008 : 19:28:12
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Originally posted by Halaster Blackcloak
"He [Halaster] is one of the great mysteries and terrors of this part of the Realms, and the wise DM will keep him so."
Agreed, and personally I would prefer not to see him as the Chosen of any god.
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 13 Apr 2008 : 19:39:42
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If they would have been smart, they would have provided a "Divine Chosen" PrC in the PGtoF. Most people's problem with Chosen is the +4 or +5 ECL boost the character gets upon becoming Chosen.
A three or five level PrC would be perfect, as each player would "buy into" their Chosenhood, at a decent rate, keeping at the same power level as the other players. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 13 Apr 2008 : 19:46:12
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Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
If they would have been smart, they would have provided a "Divine Chosen" PrC in the PGtoF. Most people's problem with Chosen is the +4 or +5 ECL boost the character gets upon becoming Chosen.
Yes, and the idea that "Chosen" of other gods are put on the same level with the Chosen of Mystra, even though Mystra's Chosen are supposed to be unique. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
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Posted - 20 Apr 2008 : 03:30:31
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Originally posted by phal
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Originally posted by Steven Schend
Thanks for this. I had the same thing in mind, exactly.
Steven
I sense a great disturbance in the force, as if a dozen voices were crying out, and were suddenly silenced.
Fine. They can kill the characters and community I've grown to know and love however they'd like. I can make my own sandbox.
Hope you didn't construe my comment with liking the fact that Halaster's pushing up daisies. I liked the crazy old coot myself and would have kept him around...but it's not my call.
My comment had more to do with someone else's referencing an old gag I liked from Saturday Night Live. That's all.
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The Blackcloak dead? WHY, O WHY?
