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red-delta
Acolyte

Canada
8 Posts

Posted - 03 Jun 2003 :  21:18:14  Show Profile  Visit red-delta's Homepage Send red-delta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How exactly did you come up with the Lost Gods books not being canon? Finder's bane is a follow up to the Finders Stone Trilogy/Masquerades. Anyway, if you can show me some evidence that these books are not canon I would much appreciate it.

"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore

USA
1288 Posts

Posted - 04 Jun 2003 :  00:47:22  Show Profile Send Mournblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by red-delta

How exactly did you come up with the Lost Gods books not being canon? Finder's bane is a follow up to the Finders Stone Trilogy/Masquerades. Anyway, if you can show me some evidence that these books are not canon I would much appreciate it.



OK I stand corrected. Your right it is. Perhaps I was too anxious to keep anything from DRAGONLANCE OUT of the FR. For some reason Krynn is just distasteful to me. What I mostly meant is I do not think there are any Canon Kender areas. THAT makes me happy...


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eilinel
Learned Scribe

France
296 Posts

Posted - 10 Jun 2003 :  15:18:39  Show Profile  Visit eilinel's Homepage Send eilinel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
oh, don't be so rude with the little people, after all, they just do what they think is good, don't they?

I think the book i read the fastest in english was Lestat, the Vampire, since i read it in one night. Well, its 599 pages. but it wasn't really because it was that good, its that i couldn't sleep and i have only this book under my hand. and the more i want to sleep, the fastest i read...
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

Australia
31799 Posts

Posted - 10 Jun 2003 :  16:16:14  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Edain, my PS group and I will soon be running a semi-regular online campaign if you are interested. We could always use an extra PC, or a DM should I decide to vacate the chair and use a PC. Our campaign will revolve around events post-FW. So let me know if your interested and I'll see what I can do.

Even if you don't want to play, I can still send the campaign adventure logs as they happen, to help you relive your PS experience until you get to game on the planes again . Just let me know whether your interested. Oh, and some of the material used is from the partially restored Planewalker.com 3e website, and my own homebrew material.



And Eilinel, I liked Lestat, the Vampire as well. I finished it in three hours. I just couldn't put it down.



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branmakmuffin
Senior Scribe

USA
428 Posts

Posted - 10 Jun 2003 :  19:22:52  Show Profile  Visit branmakmuffin's Homepage Send branmakmuffin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I read Bored of the Rings in an hour or so. I'm sure there're even shorter novels that'd take even less time. How short does a novel have to be before it becomes a novella?

A guy I went to college with read The Lord of the Rings just so he'd understand the jokes in Bored of the Rings better.

My uncle read Shogun in one sitting, 14 hours.

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eilinel
Learned Scribe

France
296 Posts

Posted - 11 Jun 2003 :  12:32:56  Show Profile  Visit eilinel's Homepage Send eilinel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i was ten when i read the Lord of the rings and i read it -in French - in one day -and part of the night actually, my parents didn't see me
then, one week later, i read it again...
And i use to read it once an year, coming back to the Master
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

Australia
31799 Posts

Posted - 11 Jun 2003 :  13:23:27  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I first read Lord of the Rings back in 1985. I finished it in three days, but it took me that long because I was also reading The Hobbit, and The Silmarillion at the same time. Since then, I have tried to read all three books at least once a year.



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DrizzitFan
Acolyte

Singapore
26 Posts

Posted - 28 Jul 2003 :  07:16:16  Show Profile  Visit DrizzitFan's Homepage Send DrizzitFan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Homeland in 3.5 hours, Exile in 4 hours, Sojurn in 3.5 hours. Enjoyed them thoroughly.

Longest though were the books on the Horde/Tuigan (Horselords), it was quite a pain to read (no offense to anyone) and I kept thinking "its Genghis Khan, he's come to FR...."
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore

USA
1288 Posts

Posted - 28 Jul 2003 :  22:38:07  Show Profile Send Mournblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That's because Yamun Kahan WAS Ghengis Khan! Good book, but I am a little tired of the Forgotten Realms remake of history (horselords, Maztica) and rehashing of classic story lines (Mage in the Iron Mask).

Sometimes it gets like really bad rap song remixes.


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Mythander
Learned Scribe

USA
121 Posts

Posted - 29 Jul 2003 :  16:30:29  Show Profile  Visit Mythander's Homepage Send Mythander a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mournblade

That's because Yamun Kahan WAS Ghengis Khan! Good book, but I am a little tired of the Forgotten Realms remake of history (horselords, Maztica) and rehashing of classic story lines (Mage in the Iron Mask).

Sometimes it gets like really bad rap song remixes.





It is so true, I can see how some people might like them for the familiarity concept but, I really think it takes something away from a story. I would have enjoyed Maztica if it was not for those damn conquistadors of Helm. I feel that real world history as no place in a fantasy world like the realms. To me fantasy is enjoyable, because of the creativity that is behind it. Once you get away from that it just takes away from the novel. I feel like if you want to write historical fiction, go a head but, make it your own. It could work if you wanted to write a novel for that Urban Arcana setting that is out now.

Wow! That has no saving throw written all over it.
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore

USA
1288 Posts

Posted - 30 Jul 2003 :  00:45:06  Show Profile Send Mournblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I often base CONCEPTS off of history, but I would not presume to mimic it in a novel. (Historical Fiction is its own genre where History DOES belong). For instance I have been running some games in Amn, and I treat Amn as Medieval Spain, a crossroads culture where Christian and Muslim art, customs, and ideals sometimes overlapped (until 1492 anyway). For the realms this is the area where the Arabian culture of Calimshan and the shoon starts to manifest. I don't mind the idea of Conquistadors, for example I often describe the Amn army guards with Morions (A type of helmet characteristic of Conquistadors, and 16th century europe). I liek that there is a Kara Tur and Steppes land so that I have the oppurtunity to bring those influences into the realms. But I do not think there needs to be a GHenghis Khan. Especially when a couple War Wizards could wipe the real Khan out.

I have also set up the moonshaes as being a type of Mirror to the culture of the Isles. Such as Moray is based off Scottish culture, Gwynneth is based off Irish, Snowdonia is Welsh, and Alaron is Cornish and Norman. For me D&D is a way for me to experiment and learn more about those cultures, creating adventures with those cultural devices in them.

But to read an entire SERIES of novels as a hsotory rehash is somewhat taxing and disappointing. I like reading and spotting the historical ELEMENTS, just not the Historical EVENTS.




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Dantrag
Learned Scribe

USA
141 Posts

Posted - 01 Aug 2003 :  21:12:06  Show Profile  Visit Dantrag's Homepage Send Dantrag a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mine was the Halflings Gem , I read it in three days. Quite a fast time according to me age...

" The truth comes out only in bold and underlined"
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Lina
Senior Scribe

Australia
469 Posts

Posted - 20 Sep 2003 :  10:22:51  Show Profile  Visit Lina's Homepage Send Lina a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dont remember the name of the book but it was a standard sized one 400-600 pages, took me about 4 hours. If only I can remember the name of the book! *sighes* Oh well this will have to do.

“Darkness beyond twilight, crimson beyond blood that flows! Buried in the flow of time. In thy great name. I pledge myself to darkness. All the fools who stand in our way shall be destroyed…by the power you and I possess! DRAGON SLAVE!!!”

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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe

USA
829 Posts

Posted - 20 Sep 2003 :  21:01:59  Show Profile  Visit William of Waterdeep's Homepage Send William of Waterdeep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Three years, 28 days.....No really "The Cyrstal Shard",333pages paper
back.3.5 hours but I had the time, at the time,besides thats to fast to enjoy for me most of the time.I love getting lost in the story but I don't normally have a timer set either.

Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.



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Arivia
Great Reader

Canada
2965 Posts

Posted - 20 Sep 2003 :  22:26:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Windwalker, which I had been greatly awaiting, disappeared way too quickly at just 2 1/2 hours. Not that the book was too short, I was just enjoying it so much, I read it way too fast.
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the lost drow
Acolyte

5 Posts

Posted - 27 Sep 2003 :  22:14:42  Show Profile  Visit the lost drow's Homepage Send the lost drow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Read Troy Denings The Sorceror in less than 7 hours.
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fanatic
Acolyte

Austria
34 Posts

Posted - 28 Sep 2003 :  12:27:02  Show Profile  Visit fanatic's Homepage Send fanatic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Passage to Dawn.
read it in one and a half day.
i was really angry when i finished the book becaus i waited for about 3 or 4 month to get it, even bought it in hard cover, and then i finished it that fast.

even fantasy has its limits
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