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Zaknafein
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Posted - 26 May 2003 :  04:41:26  Show Profile  Visit Zaknafein's Homepage Send Zaknafein a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
what book and how long did it take you to finish it?

mine was Elminster: Making of a Mage, i read it in 4 days easy


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zemd
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Posted - 26 May 2003 :  05:27:52  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mine is The first novel of Dragonlance, don't remember the name, I read it in one night
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KlarthAilerion
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Posted - 26 May 2003 :  05:46:42  Show Profile  Visit KlarthAilerion's Homepage Send KlarthAilerion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've read several novels in a single afternoon or night, amongst them The Sorcerer from the Return of the Archwizards series, Murder in Cormyr, and most recently Wind Walker from the Starlight and Shadows Series. My girlfriend says it's nice to have me shut up once in a while.
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George Krashos
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For me, it usually depends on the author. Ed's novels usually take a couple of days because I'm savouring all the realmslore bits and pieces and filing them away for future reference. Troy's and R. A.'s I usually skim read because I can only read so many battle scenes before they get boring. Elaine's stuff depends on which series of novels. Her Arilyn/Danilo novels were, to me, much more enjoyable than her Halruua series. Everytime I've read that trilogy, it just doesn't feel 'realmsian enough' (that could be because I personally don't like the concept of jordaini - they seem to me to be a mixture of Stephen Donaldson's Bloodguard and Frank Herbert's mentats and we have no grounding as to how, why and when they became entrenched in Halruaa. They just 'are' ... but enough about that trilogy). The other authors surprise at times (I loved Lynn Abbey's "The Simbul's Gift") and other times don't quite cut it re the Realms. To cut a long story short, I think it all depends on how much I'm enjoying the novel in question!

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The Sage
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Posted - 26 May 2003 :  07:28:34  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I normally read all my novels within at least 2-3 days. However when it is a great novel, I can normally finish it within one solid day. For example, the recent new addition to the 'Sembia Series' - Lord of Stormweather - I finished in five hours.


Edited by - Alaundo on 26 May 2003 10:07:27
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Zacas
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Posted - 26 May 2003 :  19:12:20  Show Profile  Visit Zacas's Homepage Send Zacas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm... it was several years back... before i got a job... soon after reading SpellFire... i was pestering my mom and bro to take me up to a nearby Barnes and Noble to get the sequel, Crown of Fire... then when i got home i went right to reading it.. and probably had it done in like 4-5 hours in the afternoon-evening during the summer break... heh... i've never done it again... but when you have college... work... I can't do it as much...

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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 26 May 2003 :  22:15:36  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zemd

The first novel of Dragonlance, don't remember the name



Isn't it Dragons of Autumn Twilight?

I just remember it because I liked the titles of that trilogy. Too bad the story sucked.

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Zaknafein
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Posted - 26 May 2003 :  22:47:00  Show Profile  Visit Zaknafein's Homepage Send Zaknafein a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hehe, i know this is way off subject but...there are proven rumors that Margaret Weis is trying to put a Dragonlance movie together to hit the big screen. i personally havent read any dragonlance...but i doubt they will hit half the success as LOTR


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Yasraena
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Posted - 27 May 2003 :  06:22:07  Show Profile  Visit Yasraena's Homepage Send Yasraena a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The last 3 dark elf novels I've finished in a single day of about 8 hours of reading. I think it'll be the same when I get my copies of Windwalker and the 3rd book in the War of the Spider Queen series.

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The Sage
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Posted - 27 May 2003 :  08:05:34  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bookwyrm said -
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Isn't it Dragons of Autumn Twilight?

Yes, the novel was called Dragons of Autumn Twilight, Volume 1 of the 'Chronicles' trilogy.



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Zacas
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Posted - 28 May 2003 :  18:05:12  Show Profile  Visit Zacas's Homepage Send Zacas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
::waits for someone to say that they read one of the Double Diamond Triangle Saga 'books' in 10 minutes... hehe::

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Lord Rad
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Posted - 28 May 2003 :  18:28:00  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The fastest ive ever read a novel is just less than a week...... being both Black Wolf and Sands of the Soul. I usually take about 2 weeks to read a novel or up to as much as a month depending on how much free time I have and of course depending on the author. For example, no disrespect, but an Ed Greenwood novel could take me a month or two

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Zaknafein
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Posted - 28 May 2003 :  23:36:15  Show Profile  Visit Zaknafein's Homepage Send Zaknafein a Private Message  Reply with Quote
yes....I hear you Rad. On top of school and soccer and work, right now, i usually finish novels within a week and a half...i need TIME!

The summer will definately be a lot easier though


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Drummer Boy
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Posted - 29 May 2003 :  01:32:24  Show Profile  Visit Drummer Boy's Homepage Send Drummer Boy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The fastest I have ever read a book was when I read Sojourn by R.A. Salvatore in a day.
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Brynweir
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Posted - 29 May 2003 :  02:45:23  Show Profile Send Brynweir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pools of Darkness in just about three hours. I hate to say it, but I did not think it was well written. Compared to some of the other FR realms novels, and many other unrelated novels, I think it was weak writing.

Since someone mentioned DragonLance earlier I'm going to show my ignorance. I have read several FR novels and many DL novels as well. Is there a connection between the two worlds that I have overlooked? (I'm being serious, not asking if we've gone off topic.)

Anyone who likes to read something that's really dark and gritty and completely awesome ought to read The Night Angel Trilogy by Brent Weeks. You can check out a little taste at www.BrentWeeks.com I should probably warn you, though, that it is definitely not PG-13 :-D

He also started a new Trilogy with Black Prism, which may even surpass the Night Angel Trilogy in its awesomeness.

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Zaknafein
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Posted - 29 May 2003 :  04:22:38  Show Profile  Visit Zaknafein's Homepage Send Zaknafein a Private Message  Reply with Quote
connection...hmm im not sure. Ive read the DL Chronicles, Legends, and War of Souls, and i havent really looked for one.

well the two most powerful wizards wore red robes...lol (Raistlin and Elminster) but the DL is based more on a single saga with other smaller stories. FR has just a lot of different stories and its not based on a single storyline


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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

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Posted - 29 May 2003 :  09:24:49  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Brynweir said -
quote:
Since someone mentioned DragonLance earlier I'm going to show my ignorance. I have read several FR novels and many DL novels as well. Is there a connection between the two worlds that I have overlooked? (I'm being serious, not asking if we've gone off topic.)
There is no connection, either planar or any other. There were a series of novel of both FR and DL which had a similar theme running through the length of the series - 'Lost Gods' - I think the series was called.

Without going into too much detail about Takhisis stealing away the world of Krynn (which would have made a connection between the two material planes even more unlikely and impossible than it is now), it simply suffices to say, that both Krynn and Toril are two completely different worlds. In fact Krynn has an absence of several different races that are abundant on Toril, also magic, and divine magic especially, works a little different on Krynn than it does on Toril.

Even if there was a connection, it would be ineffectual for many of the spellcasters, and clerics of the FR to visit Krynn, simply because for example, Elminster could not access the forms of colour coded magic that operates on Krynn, and the workings of divine magic and mysticism make it a much more difficult process to receive magic from the gods (of course it all depends on what Age of Krynn you visit).

Anyway I hope that helps you to understand some of the basic differences between the two planes, and why travel between them is near impossible. But please remember that it is your campaign, if you want a connection between the two worlds, it only takes a little work to make it possible.

Of course, if I could go into more off-topic detail I could provide a discussion that was brought up on both the FR and DL mailing lists not so long ago about this very topic. But since I can't I guess that's it for now.



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Brynweir
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Posted - 29 May 2003 :  21:08:08  Show Profile Send Brynweir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I wasn't actually looking for a connection campaign wise, but when I read the question I thought it meant the fastest you had read a FR novel. That's why I was confused when someone mentioned reading DL, I just thought I had missed something.

Thanks for the explanation, though, it does help with my general understanding of the two planes.

Anyone who likes to read something that's really dark and gritty and completely awesome ought to read The Night Angel Trilogy by Brent Weeks. You can check out a little taste at www.BrentWeeks.com I should probably warn you, though, that it is definitely not PG-13 :-D

He also started a new Trilogy with Black Prism, which may even surpass the Night Angel Trilogy in its awesomeness.

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The Sage
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Posted - 30 May 2003 :  07:37:28  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No problem Brynweir. I guess my over-eagerness to use all the knowledge I have at my disposal got the best of me .

Good learning...



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red-delta
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Posted - 01 Jun 2003 :  18:44:06  Show Profile  Visit red-delta's Homepage Send red-delta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In the series of novels called the Spelljammer series the characters do infact travel from world to world, I believe they visit the Dragonlance, Forgotten Realms, and Greyhawk settings, perhaps more. Its a six book series out of print now, I have the first five and can't find book six "The Ultimate Helm" for the life of me (apparently had a short printing) so I havn't started reading the series yet. Anyway, if you are interested this series may address something along the lines of your questions.

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Mournblade
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Posted - 01 Jun 2003 :  23:03:25  Show Profile Send Mournblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We don't need any people from DRAGONLANCE coming over here!!!!! That is for SURE!!!!

With my luck some Knight of Salami or whatever they are called will come in tow with a colony of Kender and Gully Dwarves, and then I would have to memorize ALL my fire magic to CLEANSE the realms of their vile stink. The farther away Kender are from Toril, the better life will be.



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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 02 Jun 2003 :  04:30:06  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Red-delta, don't worry. I can't find it either! It was so frustrating that I actually just read the first five anyway. There was a review on the Internet that I'd read that said that book six wasn't very good. I don't know about that, obviously, but I did it. They were pretty good. Several things I would have done differently, but that's just me. You get over not having the last bit. I still wish I could find it, though.

And Mournblade! No kender. Don't worry! (Though there were a lot of tinker-gnomes. Those are annoying too. )

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Edain Shadowstar
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Posted - 02 Jun 2003 :  05:07:56  Show Profile  Visit Edain Shadowstar's Homepage Send Edain Shadowstar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fastest I ever read a book? Simple, The Return fo the King. It was the last day of third grade and I blasted straight through it once I got home from school, only took about seven hours. Excellent start for that summer. Oh, did you mean a D&D book? Well, simple, Waterdeep. Started it at nine on a Saturday, had it done in time for dinner. Death of the Dragon is a close second, I started it at around four in the afternoon and had it done in time to watch Conan, so about eight and a half hours...maybe a little more, not sure.

Now, onto the important things, what's all this about not being able to cross from Toril to Krynn? Hell, I've done it tons of times. Edain actually became quite popular there [Krynn], granted he did nearly get himself killed a few dozen times, and that was only on his first day there. Now, is it a tricky thing to do, yes. But hey, if you want to try and stop me, you'll have to reckon with the Lady, and you don't want that, let me tell you. She's a fickle one the Lady, and she doesn't like people messing with her portals, as anyone in Sigil will tell you.

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The Sage
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She is indeed a lady one should be careful around, you are quite right about that Edain.

You only have to look at the factions and how she banished them from Sigil after the Faction War, to get a clear idea of what would happen if you crossed her. And let us not forget what she did to Aoskar .




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AraznBlair
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Posted - 02 Jun 2003 :  16:18:35  Show Profile  Visit AraznBlair's Homepage Send AraznBlair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The fastest I have read a book was also a DL book and that was in 12 hours.

Brynweir: I do beleive that there is a (extremly) small connection between FR and DL and that is in the Gods Tiamat and Takhisis. If you read the FR Deity and Demigods and read about Tiamat you can see that one of her avatars is a 5 headed cromatic dragon such as that which represents Takhisis. I also think that Elminster had made some refereances to certain things from DL. I could be wrong.


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Malice
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Posted - 02 Jun 2003 :  18:11:10  Show Profile  Visit Malice's Homepage Send Malice a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I read the fourth Harry Potter book in four hours...that's the logest novel that I have read, actually.

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red-delta
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Posted - 02 Jun 2003 :  19:34:59  Show Profile  Visit red-delta's Homepage Send red-delta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Actually there have already been kender in the Realms, or at least one of them for sure, check out the Lost Gods series where all of this takes place.

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Mournblade
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Posted - 02 Jun 2003 :  22:11:29  Show Profile Send Mournblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fortunatley the Lost gods does not seem to be official canon material so I won't have to deal with those little ****ers. Spelljammer was a pretty poor attempt of TSR to gather money. It seems things get taken to far with that. I had ALL the spell jammer supplements and now when I go back I read some of the concepts and they were SO BAD!!!! Dwarf ships flew by creativity? And creation? Dumb. Needless to say they are in my BOX OF BOOKS I DON'T CARE ABOUT. Eventually I hope to sell them for a dime on ebay. There are so many better ways to merge sci fi with fantasy other than making the spelljammer.


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Edain Shadowstar
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Posted - 02 Jun 2003 :  23:36:05  Show Profile  Visit Edain Shadowstar's Homepage Send Edain Shadowstar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Great, now you've got me going Sage. Here I am sitting at my computer trying to enjoy myself and you start reminding me of all the fun I had in Sigil...I am not gonna cry, not here, not now....

But, in all seriousness, I really need to run a Planescape Campaign one of these days...I haven't one one in oh, so long. And yeah, I agree with Mournblade, what was TSR thinking? Spaceships? I mean come on, were they on acid or something when they can up with that one? Wow...sureal moment...an emu on acid...

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Bellua Aeneus Lacerta
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Posted - 03 Jun 2003 :  02:05:53  Show Profile  Visit Bellua Aeneus Lacerta's Homepage Send Bellua Aeneus Lacerta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Bookwyrm
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Bellua! Good to have you back. Where've you been?

And I rather liked Spelljammer -- as a concept, anyway. However, I'm glad they didn't interact more with the Realms, beyond what was in Evermeet. I wasn't fond of that part of the book, but at least Ms. Cunningham handled it well.

Yes, there are better ways to merge the two. Someday I hope to get a story off the ground that does that. However, it's a very hard business, and I need a lot more world-building before I'm ready to release it for review by anyone else. I don't want to have those kinds of stupid and inconsistant additions thrown into it.

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