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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 06 Jan 2008 : 10:12:50
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| I'm glad they have no plans for those areas, I hate their existence in the Realms. |
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Zorro
Seeker
Germany
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Posted - 06 Jan 2008 : 15:00:23
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I'm glad they have no plans for those areas, I hate their existence in the Realms.
Same here.
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
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Posted - 07 Jan 2008 : 10:46:13
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Kuje
Great Reader
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7915 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jan 2008 : 23:27:47
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Rich's posts from today.
"Yes, there's another PC race fleshed-out in the FRPG. It'll have drow and Race X with full PH-style writeups."
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"Well, they're not in the Player's Handbook. I'd hope to have them available on DDi pretty soon after the PH hits, though, since players out there with half-orc characters are going to want to be able to convert or re-create their character concept, as the case may be.
Half-orcs are a bit tricky, because they imply a very ugly backstory that we frankly don't want to dwell on very much. I think it's possible to posit a better backstory, like "long ago a god of evil mixed the races of orcs and humans, and to this day atavistic throwbacks are born to each from time to time." We'll see where we get to on that score when we get serious about updating the half-orc. So far we've just had other fish to fry first.
Oh, and regardless of what core D&D does with half-orcs, they've got to be in the Realms at least as a NPC race (or "playable monster" race); they've been in Faerun in 3e and earlier editions, and we wouldn't retcon them out of existence." |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
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1283 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 01:19:33
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WTF!
"a very ugly backstory that we frankly don't want to dwell on very much"
This from the company that brought us sex with corpses as a spell component for a vile spell?!
All of a sudden they're sheepish about orcs raiding and raping human women? WTF is going on at WotC?
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1796 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 06:18:40
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Kentinal
Great Reader
4693 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 06:29:16
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Being evil is cool?
Not a retcon, orcs can no longer mate with humans because the Weave is gone?
Yes this makes real good sense to me, it also indicates a major timeline advance. Wth no good explaination. *sighs* |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 10:23:31
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Originally posted by SirUrza
WTF!
"a very ugly backstory that we frankly don't want to dwell on very much"
This from the company that brought us sex with corpses as a spell component for a vile spell?!
All of a sudden they're sheepish about orcs raiding and raping human women? WTF is going on at WotC?
Yeah that made me laugh especially as Tieflings have been promoted to a core race in 4ed
so Orcs breeding with humans bad?
but 16 foot tall 4 armed wolf headed demons breeding with humans (or drow) is ok??
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36876 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 11:15:17
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Originally posted by Kentinal
Being evil is cool?
Not a retcon, orcs can no longer mate with humans because the Weave is gone?
Yes this makes real good sense to me, it also indicates a major timeline advance. Wth no good explaination. *sighs*
Oh, come on, now. This is simply a ridiculous assumption. 
They're simply trying a different backstory for new half-orcs. Nothing said that the "traditional" means of making half-orcs wouldn't work. And how any of that can be extrapolated into a timeline advance is beyond me.
I wish people would stop automatically assuming the worst about 4E. I'm no happier about it than anyone else, but I'm not deliberately looking for ways to allow it to piss me off. At least wait until we've got stuff actually in print before ripping into it!
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 15:17:37
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Well I admit that I find little to like.
Warlock, an Evil leaning class is core.
Triflings, an Evil leaning race is core.
Paladins (which should be a Prc IMO) can be any alignment, though most are Good or Lawful, some perhaps both, distrories the archtype.
Points of Light infers that most of te lands have fell under Evil influence or at least Chaotic.
Drow appear to have the Evil gene returning.
As far as timeline advance quote:
"long ago a god of evil mixed the races of orcs and humans, and to this day atavistic throwbacks are born to each from time to time."
clearly in my mind advances a large time advance. Instead of half orcs being fairly common,such now only happens rarely. The only good thing about the quote is perhaps one Evil deity is gone or at least not cross breeding any more. Oh this clearly could lead to an inference that half-orcs are a result of Evil. *shrugs* |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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7106 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 15:25:49
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Originally posted by SirUrza
All of a sudden they're sheepish about orcs raiding and raping human women? WTF is going on at WotC?
Maybe WotC is changing their direction with that. I don't think it's a bad thing to *not* want to dwell on something like rape.
However, I did point out (along with some other people) that it isn't written in stone that half-orcs need to be products of rape. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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7106 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 15:29:04
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Originally posted by Kentinal
As far as timeline advance quote:
"long ago a god of evil mixed the races of orcs and humans, and to this day atavistic throwbacks are born to each from time to time."
clearly in my mind advances a large time advance.
I disagree--that was just Rich imagining a possible backstory. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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36876 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 15:33:49
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Originally posted by Kentinal
As far as timeline advance quote:
"long ago a god of evil mixed the races of orcs and humans, and to this day atavistic throwbacks are born to each from time to time."
clearly in my mind advances a large time advance. Instead of half orcs being fairly common,such now only happens rarely. The only good thing about the quote is perhaps one Evil deity is gone or at least not cross breeding any more. Oh this clearly could lead to an inference that half-orcs are a result of Evil. *shrugs*
I still fail to see how this implies a timeline advance. There is absolutely no indication that currently existing half-orcs are being removed -- and indeed, a statement saying that they remain in the Realms. This is a different origin for new half-orcs, not a replacement of existing ones.
And besides, the discussed quote is for D&D Extreme, not the Realms! Why everyone insists on co-mingling the two is beyond me -- the Realms has always been unique with the way certain races are handled.
I really wish we could get away from the hair-trigger cries of doom and gloom any time Rich or anyone else says anything. And even more, I wish we could get away from creative interpretations of and reading into his statements.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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7106 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 15:36:19
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
And besides, the discussed quote is for D&D Extreme, not the Realms!
And as I said, it's not even set in stone yet, it's just an example of a backstory that might be used. |
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Kentinal
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Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 16:01:02
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Mr. Baker has been the most active poster concerning Realms changes. He also is FR design team. Thus hie words do tend to been reactions.
As for time line advance we know it is 10 years at least. We have hints of the Orc empire existing as a civilized nation that many are having a hard time accepting in a short as 100 years, Novels are still canon afterall.
Also we have been told Realms will be closer to core, that Points of Lights will be applied somewhat lessor to Realms then core, we also are told the new Realms will be easier for characters of other realms to fit into. We are not told of any differences between core and Realms (except some NPCs will no longer exist in the Realms).
We were told Realms would not get retcons, is changing the backstory something else then?
Of course I am reacting to something posted in this thread, not the 4th core thread, if that quote did not belong here I am indeed over reacting.
Tell me the Harpers are alive and well.
Tell me that Eilistraee even survives when most of her followers appear to be unknown.
We are given snapshots of things that effect the Realms, not the full picture.
Why is the timeline advance such a big NDA in the first place?
I am fustrated by the little release of information concerning Realms or Core.
Perhaps there are many good things that will occur in the Realms, we expect Ed will do the best he can to do so.
Right now all I want is
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Zorro
Seeker
Germany
82 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 16:16:01
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Originally posted by Kentinal
Tell me the Harpers are alive and well.
Just as an aside, Mr. Baker referred to Harper and Red Wizard templates (well, he didn't say templates, but you get the idea) while answering an unrelated question, implying that these organizations will survive. The WotC message boards don't seem to be working right now (at least for me), but his reply should be somewhere on the last five pages of his thread.
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 16:41:15
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Originally posted by Zorro
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Originally posted by Kentinal
Tell me the Harpers are alive and well.
Just as an aside, Mr. Baker referred to Harper and Red Wizard templates (well, he didn't say templates, but you get the idea) while answering an unrelated question, implying that these organizations will survive. The WotC message boards don't seem to be working right now (at least for me), but his reply should be somewhere on the last five pages of his thread.
Zorro
Indeed and just a day or so ago he said that with Khelben dead the Moonstars are going to merge back into the Harpers. So there has to be some type of Harpers left for that to happen. :)
Edit: It's Venger's post from Jan 2, a few pages back in this thread. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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36876 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 16:55:40
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Originally posted by Kentinal
Mr. Baker has been the most active poster concerning Realms changes. He also is FR design team. Thus hie words do tend to been reactions.
Reactions are understandable. But people are reading into them and drawing conclusions from them, with little to back them up. Just because A can result in B, it doesn't mean that it will, nor that C and D are now also going to be in effect.
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Originally posted by Kentinal
As for time line advance we know it is 10 years at least. We have hints of the Orc empire existing as a civilized nation that many are having a hard time accepting in a short as 100 years, Novels are still canon afterall.
Though we do have that disturbing prologue out there, it doesn't mean that the timeline is being advanced that far or that the state of events described will be in effect. It is entirely possible that the timeline jump will be less than that, and that future actions may invalidate that glimpse of the future. To quote Yoda "Always in motion, the future is." Until it is confirmed, either in print or an official statement, that dark future is only a potential one. We should not jump to conclusions.
Additionally, we know various in-print characters have made mistaken assumptions and acted on bad info before... Drizzt himself has twice assumed Bruenor was dead. Just because Drizzt thinks the state of the world is a certain way, it doesn't mean it truly is.
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Originally posted by Kentinal
Also we have been told Realms will be closer to core, that Points of Lights will be applied somewhat lessor to Realms then core, we also are told the new Realms will be easier for characters of other realms to fit into. We are not told of any differences between core and Realms (except some NPCs will no longer exist in the Realms).
Not being told of any differences, especially this far out, does not mean those differences will not exist.
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Originally posted by Kentinal
We were told Realms would not get retcons, is changing the backstory something else then?
*bangs head into desk* Again, this is not changing the backstory of existing half-orcs! Why is this so hard to understand?
This is a alternate backstory for new characters, not a retcon.
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Originally posted by Kentinal
Of course I am reacting to something posted in this thread, not the 4th core thread, if that quote did not belong here I am indeed over reacting.
Tell me the Harpers are alive and well.
Tell me that Eilistraee even survives when most of her followers appear to be unknown.
We are given snapshots of things that effect the Realms, not the full picture.
One quote that irritated me was that the Moonstars are going to be folded back into the Harpers. That means the Harpers are still going to be around.
Note that I hate this change, and think it's ruining a lot of potential that was already ignored with 3E was inflicted on us.
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Originally posted by Kentinal
Why is the timeline advance such a big NDA in the first place?
That question, more than anything else, is what scares me about the future Realms.
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Originally posted by Kentinal
I am fustrated by the little release of information concerning Realms or Core.
You are not the only one. I'm in the same boat, as are the rest of us. I'm just refusing to read into things. This far out, reading into things is just begging for misconceptions to be formed.
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Originally posted by Kentinal
Perhaps there are many good things that will occur in the Realms, we expect Ed will do the best he can to do so.
Gods above, I hope so! I fear the Realms becoming a different beast entirely, something that is unrecognizable except for some names.
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Originally posted by Kentinal
Right now all I want is
"Tell me something good."
and I am not getting that.
None of us are getting that... But the absence of good news isn't proof of the existence of bad news. I'm just asking for people to keep that in mind, and to stop reading into every little iota of info that we have gotten. |
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
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Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 18:10:17
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| The thing is, Wooly, most of what we have been given so far, including the post 1375 DR part in GHotR AND the prologue to Bob Salvatore's latest Drizzt novel do not bode well... furthermore, why include something like this Prologue in a novel if it doesn't mean that the future is set in stone, so to speak? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 18:32:44
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Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand
The thing is, Wooly, most of what we have been given so far, including the post 1375 DR part in GHotR AND the prologue to Bob Salvatore's latest Drizzt novel do not bode well... furthermore, why include something like this Prologue in a novel if it doesn't mean that the future is set in stone, so to speak?
You're right. The little we have been given does not bode well... But it's only a tiny amount of info! There is simply too much negativity going on about things when we don't really know even half of what's coming.
And if the future is set in stone, why have they avoided confirming it?
Even if that prologue does stand unchanged, it's still only the perspective of one character who has, as I've already pointed out, been known to make mistaken assumptions before. Until Drizzt becomes the official spokesman of the Realms, I'm not assuming he knows too much about anything beyond his regular stomping grounds.
I'll readily admit that I fear what 4E is going to do to the Realms. There have already been a lot more ominous signs than there have been reassuring ones. And I've already decided that if I don't like what I see the FRCG when it comes out, then I'll be done with 4E FR at that time -- I'll just stick with 3.5E and everything before it.
But until that book is actually out -- or we see excerpts -- then nothing is set in stone. People are getting all worked up about things that may or may not even be finalized yet.
All I am asking -- though I fear I'm wasting my time, yet again -- is that people stop jumping the gun and making assumptions, and wait until we have officially released information. |
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Sian
Senior Scribe
Denmark
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Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 18:46:31
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i'll like to say that i'm largely in same boat as the local Hamster
i deny to kick and scream about anything thats have yet to be spoken about (but can be read between the lines if you are conspiritual) before i read FRCG ... when i read FRCG (and not a second before) i choose wether i like the changes ... though i most admit ... the things i've read from races and classes had more positive than negative around it ... along others that even though Gnomes aren't in it, its not because they don't want them but just don't know how to tweak them so they don't either end up being a sevitor race (to elves) or a technocratic tinker/WoW gnome with a tendency of technology that blows up |
what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
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Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 20:11:40
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Well met
I'd like to back up Wooly here, and feel quite the same way as he does. I know that on the surface 4e is quite upsetting to many fans (myself included, to be honest), but let us try to give it a chance and see what WotC tell us officially and what they release over time through their site (and ultimately, the FRCG).
It's easy to speculate and blow snippets of information out of proportion. I welcome your comments and discussions herein, of course, but personally, i'm taking a backseat and waiting for the big day to see what truly happens  |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
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Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 22:00:01
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| The fact that Elminster and Drizzt survive are not enough "points of light" to sell me on the new direction they are taking the campaign setting. All I know, is that I and a lot the Realms "Old Guard" (or Grognards if you prefer) were extremely likely to buy the 4e FRCG (and probably the FRPG too!)before we heard about the "fun new direction" that they 4e FR design team was taking the "new" Realms. And now most of us are on the wait and see bit. I am not sure if they realize that we will give the 4e Realms one chance (probably by reviewing the FRCG in our local game or book store) before we give up on the new version of the campaign setting all together. And I want the 4e Realms to survive. So they better be cooking up a damn good book to introduce us to the "new" Realms. |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 23:56:49
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| Here's the problem, even if 4E Realms sucks find, guess what, there's no escaping it. Sure we can play in the 3E timeline frame. Sure we can ignore spell plague. BUT, the novel, the novels will continue with into the new timeline meaning we give the novel line up as well. |
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Hawkins
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Posted - 09 Jan 2008 : 00:26:11
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Originally posted by SirUrza
Here's the problem, even if 4E Realms sucks find, guess what, there's no escaping it. Sure we can play in the 3E timeline frame. Sure we can ignore spell plague. BUT, the novel, the novels will continue with into the new timeline meaning we give the novel line up as well.
That is a large reason as to why I hope that the 4e Realms do not blow. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 09 Jan 2008 : 01:15:29
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Originally posted by SirUrza
Here's the problem, even if 4E Realms sucks find, guess what, there's no escaping it. Sure we can play in the 3E timeline frame. Sure we can ignore spell plague. BUT, the novel, the novels will continue with into the new timeline meaning we give the novel line up as well.
You can still read the stories. They just won't be "canon" for YOUR version of the Realms. |
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Theophilus
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 09 Jan 2008 : 02:29:31
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by SirUrza
Here's the problem, even if 4E Realms sucks find, guess what, there's no escaping it. Sure we can play in the 3E timeline frame. Sure we can ignore spell plague. BUT, the novel, the novels will continue with into the new timeline meaning we give the novel line up as well.
You can still read the stories. They just won't be "canon" for YOUR version of the Realms.
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Hawkins
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Posted - 09 Jan 2008 : 02:45:47
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Optimistic Rin - but what happens if it sucks so bad that the setting folds?
I think that even if it does turn out bad, WotC will at least continue the novel line. I am pretty sure that it is one of their biggest cash cows, and therefore unlikely that they will not beat it after it is dead even though it can no longer walk upon its own four hooves. Or they will cast animate dead on it, and then we will have a zombie of the Realms wandering about. I think that scares me more than having the setting just fold. |
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He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
* The Hypertext d20 SRD (3.5 OGL Rules)
* 3.5 D&D Archives
My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 09 Jan 2008 : 04:07:05
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| If the setting folds Ed gets it back and can find 1001 publishers willing to take over. Maybe True20 Realms. :) |
"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
The original and unapologetic Arilyn, Aribeth, Seoni Fanboy. |
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Mkhaiwati
Learned Scribe
USA
252 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jan 2008 : 04:27:15
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quote:
Originally posted by SirUrza
If the setting folds Ed gets it back and can find 1001 publishers willing to take over. Maybe True20 Realms. :)
Honestly, I never see WotC letting FR go. But if they should, my ideal thought would be to turn it into a setting not tied to a system, just the info for the setting. Conversions can be made for popular systems, but I would like it more if it included why a particular person does XYZ and his general power level as opposed to the stat blocks. |
"Behold the work of the old... let your heritage not be lost but bequeath it as a memory, treasure and blessing... Gather the lost and the hidden and preserve it for thy children."
"not nale. not-nale. thog help nail not-nale, not nale. and thog knot not-nale while nale nail not-nale. nale, not not-nale, now nail not-nale by leaving not-nale, not nale, in jail." OotS #367 |
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