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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 22 Aug 2008 :  04:34:29  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I pretty sure anyone here in Candlekeep never wished him dead (maybe bruised, a little bloodied, but not dead). However, there are some on the WotC boards that don't like that THEIR character isn't the most powerful being on the planet.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Brimstone
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Posted - 22 Aug 2008 :  04:53:49  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
-I understand that. Most of my posts are on the WotC Boards.


BRIMSTONE

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Seainna Mistwalker
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Posted - 22 Aug 2008 :  05:17:29  Show Profile  Visit Seainna Mistwalker's Homepage Send Seainna Mistwalker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The 4e core book also states that The Simbul resides within the Dalelands, though for a period she was believed to have perished. One would assume that given her close relationship to the Old Sage, that the Daleland she resides within is Shadowdale.

Edited by - Seainna Mistwalker on 22 Aug 2008 05:18:12
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Ayunken-vanzan
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Posted - 22 Aug 2008 :  05:54:20  Show Profile  Visit Ayunken-vanzan's Homepage Send Ayunken-vanzan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Most likely. And nothing is said about her status as mage so far, I presume she is still a powerfull mage without any compunction to use her power if dire need requires so (in contrast to El). Maybe here is something we can look forward to.

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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

USA
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Posted - 22 Aug 2008 :  07:05:05  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Christopher_Rowe

Saw this on ENWorld, Markus. Might not be high-res enough for your purposes, but just in case...

Dude, you rock!

Expect new maps soon.

Cheers --- Mark

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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Colman
Acolyte

Ireland
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Posted - 22 Aug 2008 :  08:13:56  Show Profile  Visit Colman's Homepage Send Colman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Um. You can't make 4e maps from the new map without the FRCG text because the new map doesn't correctly cover changes made in the text. I guess you'll have to putt up drafts for correction ...
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Uzzy
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Posted - 22 Aug 2008 :  15:55:51  Show Profile  Visit Uzzy's Homepage Send Uzzy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hello, all.
Re. the fate of Elminster as reported in the FRCS:
Ed says there's a great deal of difference between what most folk think Elminster is up to (i.e. what's in the FRCS) and what's really happened/happening to him (for that, you'll have to wait for Ed's first post-Knights of Myth Drannor novel).
Suffice it to say: he's not quite the "put out to pasture" old wreck you might think he's been presented as.
love,
THO



So that's two things that people would have expected to be in the FRCG, but will have to spend more on novels to find out about, right?

I mean, I'm happy that Elminster isn't quite a wreck yet (Though he's not anyway, given that I don't think anyone should take anything from WoTC as canon anymore). But still, seems to be a case of same as it ever was.
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Uzzy
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Posted - 22 Aug 2008 :  16:04:36  Show Profile  Visit Uzzy's Homepage Send Uzzy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I particularly like the lack of a timeline in the book too. They even tell people to go and get the Grand History of the Realms, which will be updated in DDI to cover the years between 1385 and 4e.

So that'd be another £30 on top of the cost of the FRCG to get information which should be in the FRCG. Excellent work.
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Zanan
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Germany
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Posted - 22 Aug 2008 :  19:45:41  Show Profile  Visit Zanan's Homepage Send Zanan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Uzzy

I particularly like the lack of a timeline in the book too. They even tell people to go and get the Grand History of the Realms, which will be updated in DDI to cover the years between 1385 and 4e.

So that'd be another £30 on top of the cost of the FRCG to get information which should be in the FRCG. Excellent work.



Sounds a bit like a rip-off, given the subscription rates that DDI will per month?

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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore

Canada
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Posted - 22 Aug 2008 :  20:03:32  Show Profile Send Skeptic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Zanan

Sounds a bit like a rip-off, given the subscription rates that DDI will per month?



The planned cost for web content (dungeon, dragon, compendium, bonus tools) is 5 USD / month.
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Ashe Ravenheart
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USA
3254 Posts

Posted - 22 Aug 2008 :  20:07:04  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
*AHEM*

The planned cost for Web Content right now is $4.95 a month. That's for Dungeon, Dragon and Compendium.

Once the Character Generator, Character Visualizer and Dungeon Tiles get up and running, the price will increase to $14.95 a month.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Uzzy
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Posted - 22 Aug 2008 :  20:19:01  Show Profile  Visit Uzzy's Homepage Send Uzzy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, the £30 was for Grand History and a DDI subscription.

Of course, if you want to know what happened to Luskan, Mask or Elminster, you'll have to buy three more novels. Which only adds to the cost.
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Brimstone
Great Reader

USA
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Posted - 22 Aug 2008 :  20:23:20  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
-This is Wizards way of making sure the IP is profitable. I could care less as it is. Wizards is a company pure and simple. I will find out whats going on via the message boards anyways. I look forward to reading some of the novels. DDI is hit or miss with me so...


BRIMSTONE

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader

USA
3254 Posts

Posted - 22 Aug 2008 :  20:27:28  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Uzzy

Yeah, the £30 was for Grand History and a DDI subscription.

Of course, if you want to know what happened to Luskan, Mask or Elminster, you'll have to buy three more novels. Which only adds to the cost.


I haven't picked up Paul's books yet (mostly because I'm being frugal...), but I know that whenever Ed puts something out, I have it on pre-order (right there with RAS and Elaine).

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore

Canada
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Posted - 22 Aug 2008 :  20:41:00  Show Profile Send Skeptic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart

The planned cost for Web Content right now is $4.95 a month. That's for Dungeon, Dragon and Compendium.

Once the Character Generator, Character Visualizer and Dungeon Tiles get up and running, the price will increase to $14.95 a month.



1) It was said that you can keep only the web content option.

2) It's 10 USD / month on a year plan. 5 USD a month is also on a year plan (IIRC, it's 7.95 USD on a montly basis).

Edited by - Skeptic on 22 Aug 2008 20:41:35
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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 22 Aug 2008 :  20:45:43  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I apologize. It's been a while since I've had the heart to look it over, I didn't realize they changed their tiered pricing.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore

Canada
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Posted - 22 Aug 2008 :  21:13:11  Show Profile Send Skeptic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart

I apologize. It's been a while since I've had the heart to look it over, I didn't realize they changed their tiered pricing.



It wasn't trying to be harsh with you, but false rumors about 4E are quick to grow here .

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 22 Aug 2008 :  21:21:09  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Understood. I should've checked the pages before posting.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

USA
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Posted - 23 Aug 2008 :  06:02:02  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just looking over this mess, wondering wheere to start...

Var the Drowned?

Anyway, does anyone know anything about that new city/town up where the Fields of Nun used to be, near the Arkanamere, called 'New Breen'?

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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Fillow
Master of Realmslore

France
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Posted - 23 Aug 2008 :  10:55:25  Show Profile  Visit Fillow's Homepage Send Fillow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay


Anyway, does anyone know anything about that new city/town up where the Fields of Nun used to be, near the Arkanamere, called 'New Breen'?

Where did you see that Mark ?

Otherwise, do I mistake or is not the D&DI free for the moment ?

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Christopher_Rowe
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
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Posted - 23 Aug 2008 :  11:40:12  Show Profile  Visit Christopher_Rowe's Homepage Send Christopher_Rowe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fillow
Otherwise, do I mistake or is not the D&DI free for the moment ?



It is. As are public lending libraries (most of which offer free interlibrary loan service, at least in the US, and most of which are quite responsive to patron book purchase requests--that's why my library has copies of Swordmage and Sentinelspire; even though I bought those books I make a habit of recommending books I like for purchase).

Cheers,

Christopher

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Markustay
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Posted - 23 Aug 2008 :  16:32:30  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Last night my sister knew how upset I was I couldn't get onto the WotC site (it's pretty much my only social outlet - sad, I know). So this morning, when she got in from work (she works the Graveyard shift at a Hospital), she gave me an early Birthday Present - the FRCG!

So, I just want to officially say that its not nearly as bad as some people were making out <Gasp!>. It's by no means great, but it isn't terrible either. there are plenty of useful bits I will incorporate into future campaigns, whatever edition or world I run. If you look at it like a book of fun ideas, then it becomes worth it (from a DM's perspective).

I could continue to list everything wrong with the book, but by the same token I could list only the good things. What I'm trying to say is that it is very easy to quote stuff and take it out of context, and either 'side' could make a good argument for this book.

I suggest people take a look at it for themselves before they make any final judgement. Just remember to leave your 'Realms fanhood' at the door, and take everything as if you were looking at a brand-new setting...

Because it is.

P.S. - I still think the book would have been better served if returned Abeir was presented in a seperate book, as a 'campaign add-on' for any setting, but that was the designers call.

quote:
Originally posted by Fillow

Where did you see that Mark ?
Breen is right where the Vilhon Reach used to begin, directly west of the Akanapeaks, which are located in NW Akanûl.

I'm just wondering, because I named a Halfling town Breen (later changed to Brean) on one of my maps just south of Veldorn, and was wondering if this town had any connection to that. If it's a home for displaced Halflings, then I managed to sneak yet-another HB locale into canon (indirectly by association).

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 23 Aug 2008 19:16:54
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Brimstone
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Posted - 23 Aug 2008 :  16:38:10  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
-Dude your sister rocks! Now was that so bad.


BRIMSTONE

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Markustay
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Posted - 23 Aug 2008 :  19:19:28  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes... she does... but NEVER tell her I said that.

And no... it was like taking cherry-flavored medicine... Not good, but not exactly bad, either.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


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Brimstone
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Posted - 23 Aug 2008 :  19:24:21  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
-But I like Cherry Flavored Medicine!


BRIMSTONE

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep
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crazedventurers
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 23 Aug 2008 :  23:56:52  Show Profile  Visit crazedventurers's Homepage Send crazedventurers a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
Breen for displaced Halflings, then I managed to sneak yet-another HB locale into canon (indirectly by association).


Nah, they named it after me, as that's my surname!

who-ho fame at last

Cheers

Damian

So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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arry
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Posted - 24 Aug 2008 :  12:12:59  Show Profile Send arry a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

-But I like Cherry Flavored Medicine!




Heretic! Report to The Hooded One for discipline at once!

Edited by - arry on 24 Aug 2008 12:13:36
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Blueblade
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Posted - 24 Aug 2008 :  19:09:43  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Zeboaster of Ordulin
Acolyte

USA
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Posted - 25 Aug 2008 :  13:03:25  Show Profile Send Zeboaster of Ordulin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was thinking it would be fun to re-read and review the old Grey Box, and then re-read the new FRCS and Player's Guide. How would the reviews between the two compare?


Zeboaster, a distinguised character known for his sarcasm and perfumed beard, is currently in hiding after making one too many witty and/or truthful remarks.

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Christopher_Rowe
Forgotten Realms Author

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Posted - 25 Aug 2008 :  14:50:09  Show Profile  Visit Christopher_Rowe's Homepage Send Christopher_Rowe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Zeboaster of Ordulin

I was thinking it would be fun to re-read and review the old Grey Box, and then re-read the new FRCS and Player's Guide. How would the reviews between the two compare?



Not exactly what you're talking about, I don't think, but this reviewer does something close.

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