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Dhomal
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Posted - 10 May 2007 :  19:30:00  Show Profile Send Dhomal a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hello-

I was looking for any references to Tieflings in published Lore. I know that there is the section about the race itself in the books - but I was more looking for NPCs etc. Novel references would be fine also.

I have a player who is looking to play one - and I will be looking to try and mesh things together with pre-existing references.

The simple idea they have is to have been born to a slave in Thay, and ended up free through several events.

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There's not a lot of FR lore with tiefling references, especially in the old lore since they weren't invented until Planescape.

Mefisto, 9th Bard, Male Tiefling, CE, The town crier in the town of Zelatar in the Abyss, For Duty & Deity.

Lord Faersynd Floshin, 9th Cleric, Male Half-elf Tiefling, CE, Ghaunadaur, Patriarch of House Floshin. Consort to Lady-Consort Talya Floshin. Member of House Dlardrageth, Cloak & Dagger

Lord-Consort Myrlaer Ealoeth, 8th Fighter/7th Wizard Bladesinger, Male Half-elf Tiefling, CE, Consort to Lady Nydyaa Ealoeth. Member of House Dlardrageth, Cloak & Dagger

Tenosh, 12th Thief, Female Tiefling, NE, The Cloakmaster of Baldur's Gate for the Shadow Thieves, Cloak & Dagger

Sorndyrn Scarletsash (Laelran Aelorothi), 3rd Wizard, Male Half-elf Tiefling, CE, Conjurer, Member of House Dlardrageth. Resides in Luskan and is part of the Arcana Brotherhood. Has a imp familiar named Noxit, Cloak & Dagger

Nylaersyn "the Changeling" Floshin, 4th Wizard, Female Half-elf Tiefling, CE, Member of House Dlardrageth. Resides in Waterdeep and has three disguises in that city. Member of the Unseen, Cloak & Dagger

Lady-Consort Saesaan Aelorothi, 7th Wizard/8th Thief, Female Half-elf Tiefling, NE, Consort to Lord Pharnth Aelorothi. Member of House Dlardrageth, Cloak & Dagger

Lord Pharnth Aelorothi, 8th Wizard, Male Half-elf Tiefling, CE, Diviner Patriarch of House Aelorothi. Member of the House Dlardrageth, Cloak & Dagger

Lady-Consort Talya Floshin, 9th Wizard, Female Half-elf Tiefling, CE, Consort to Lord Faersynd Floshin. Member of House Dlardrageth, Cloak & Dagger

Lady Nydyaa Ealoeth, 10th Wizard, Female Half-elf Tiefling, CE, Matriarch of House Ealoeth. Consort to Lord-Consort Myrlaer Ealoeth. Member of House Dlardrageth, Cloak & Dagger

Shangalar the Black, 27th Wizard, Male Tiefling Lich, LE, One of the nine Runemasters who rule the Twisted Rune, Lands of Intrigue: Book 3

Shangalar the Black, 27th Wizard, Male Tiefling Lich, LE, One of the nine Runemasters who rule the Twisted Rune, Empires of the Shining Sea

Shangalar the Black, 20th Wizard/5th Archmage/2nd Epic, Male Tiefling Lich, LE, Runemaster of the Twisted Rune, Lords of Darkness

Ewa, 6th Monk/2nd Monk of the Long Death, Female Tiefling, LN, Member of Durdyn's Devils that are exploring Sonjar's Tower, Lost Empires of Faerun

Hetten, 4th Fighter, Male Tiefling, NE, Member of the Zhentarim Tethyamar outpost. Brother to Zozzul, Lords of Darkness

Inther Blackfeather, 8th Rogue/4th Wizard, Male Tiefling, NE, A slave trader that works north of Amn and works out of the Cutlass Tavern in Luskan, Lords of Darkness

Kleb, 3rd Ranger, Female Tiefling, LE, Member of the Zhentarim Tethyamar outpost, Lords of Darkness

Kyros, 4th Rogue, Female Tiefling, NE, Member of the Zhentarim Tethyamar outpost, Lords of Darkness

Mamprusi, 9th Wizard, Male Tiefling, LE, Leader of the Fortress of Gurzz'oth, Underdark

Noristuor, 8th Wizard, Male Tiefling, TN, Resides in Ashabenford in Mistledale, Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting

Rekart, 5th Monk, Male Tiefling, LE, Member of the Zhentarim Tethyamar outpost, Lords of Darkness

Savuri, 4th Rogue, Female Tiefling, NE, Member of the Zhentarim Tethyamar outpost, Lords of Darkness

Sivvlur, 3rd Ranger, Male Tiefling, NE, Member of the Zhentarim Tethyamar outpost, Lords of Darkness

Spider, 4th Rogue/3rd Fighter, Male Tiefling, CG, Owner of Spider's Fleet o' Feet in Skullport, City of Splendors: Waterdeep (Kuje's Note: He is also in the Skullport sourcebook)

Tsurk, 6th Sorcerer, Female Tiefling, CE, Member of the Zhentarim Tethyamar outpost, Lords of Darkness

Tulrun, 13th Wizard/4th Archmage, Male Tiefling, CN, Resides in Tulrun's Tent in the Cold Wood in the Silver Marches, Silver Marches

Zozzul, 4th Fighter, Male Tiefling, NE, Member of the Zhentarim Tethyamar outpost. Brother to Hetten, Lords of Darkness

All of these can be found in my NPC files. Note also the Fey'ri from 2e were mostly turned into the updated fey'ri entries for 3/3.5e.

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warlockco
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Posted - 11 May 2007 :  01:41:27  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Shouldn't all those House Dlardrageth Tieflings be retcon to Feyri?

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Kuje
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quote:
Originally posted by warlockco

Shouldn't all those House Dlardrageth Tieflings be retcon to Feyri?



I think I noted that. :) Mutters about people reading people's posts. :)

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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by warlockco

Shouldn't all those House Dlardrageth Tieflings be retcon to Feyri?



I think I noted that. :) Mutters about people reading people's posts. :)



Sorry didn't read the last line of text, my eyes had glazed over

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Kuje
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quote:
Originally posted by warlockco

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by warlockco

Shouldn't all those House Dlardrageth Tieflings be retcon to Feyri?



I think I noted that. :) Mutters about people reading people's posts. :)



Sorry didn't read the last line of text, my eyes had glazed over



Stop lookin at Sage's dancing girls! :)

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The Sage
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Neat! I've got dancing girls all to myself.

And no Wooly, you can't have any.

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EvilKnight
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Posted - 11 May 2007 :  02:28:29  Show Profile  Visit EvilKnight's Homepage Send EvilKnight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
One of the main characters in the FR novel The Glass Prison (by Monte Cook, 1999) is a tiefling. Named Vheod.

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scererar
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For not being alot, you have a great list going so far Kuje
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Kuje
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quote:
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For not being alot, you have a great list going so far Kuje



Well, a lot of them came from 3/3.5e sources. :) As you can see, Lords of Darkness for 3e has a lot.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Neat! I've got dancing girls all to myself.

And no Wooly, you can't have any.




Oh, they'll be mine in just a minute... Just as soon as I send an email to Lady K...

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Dhomal
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Posted - 11 May 2007 :  05:32:30  Show Profile Send Dhomal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello-

Thanks for all of the - Ahem - relevant responces!

So - the listings for the House Dladgreth would probably be Fey'ri now as opposed to Tieflings, hmmm?

Thanks also for the novel reference. I may have to think about re-reading that.

As an addendum - since there is not direct listed links to Thay - what do people think about a tiefling hailing from the area? I somewhat assume that it is pretty plausible, but just curious as to what others may think.

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Kuje
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quote:
Originally posted by Dhomal

Hello-

Thanks for all of the - Ahem - relevant responces!

So - the listings for the House Dladgreth would probably be Fey'ri now as opposed to Tieflings, hmmm?

As an addendum - since there is not direct listed links to Thay - what do people think about a tiefling hailing from the area? I somewhat assume that it is pretty plausible, but just curious as to what others may think.

Dhomal



Aye,

the fey'ri tieflings of 2e would be just fey'ri now.

And I see no reason why there wouldn't be any tieflings in Thay....

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by Dhomal

As an addendum - since there is not direct listed links to Thay - what do people think about a tiefling hailing from the area? I somewhat assume that it is pretty plausible, but just curious as to what others may think.
And I see no reason why there wouldn't be any tieflings in Thay....
It is indeed plausible. Races of Faerūn notes that most of the tieflings found in Faerūn are derived from bloodlines that have originated in both Mulhorand and Thay.

Additionally, see the "Races and Cultures" section of the chapter on Thay in the Unapproachable East tome as well, for more on tieflings active in the land of the Red Wizards.

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George Krashos
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I thought that there was a tiefling member of the Moonstars - as showcased in "Cloak & Dagger" ...

Tieflings also exist in fair numbers in Impiltur, Damara, the Great Dale and Thesk. Each region has its own slightly different view on them.

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Xvim also brought a large army of Tieflings into Faerun when he invaded Westgate during the 7th century

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EytanBernstein
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In the 2nd warlocks entry in Class Chronicles, I said that there were high concentrations in Thay and Unther. I'll past the paragraph specifically talking about tieflings (warlocks) in Thay.

"Tiefling warlocks are even more likely than others of their kind to exhibit obviously inhuman traits such as cloven hooves, a sulfurous reek, horns, a tail, or glowing red eyes. They tend to develop their powers at a young age, often encouraged by their ancestors to cultivate their horrible gifts. Other tieflings make pacts with evil outsiders to activate what they feel is dormant power within their souls. Twin tiefling warlocks work covertly for Samas Kul (UnA), Master of the Guild of Foreign Trade in Bezantur. The corpulent red wizard uses the warlocks known as Tolyst and Finora to spy on and intimidate his trade rivals. Tolyst is easily recognized by his large fangs, wolfish grin, and orange eyes. Finora can be identified by her catlike tail and yellow cat's eyes."


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quote:
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I thought that there was a tiefling member of the Moonstars - as showcased in "Cloak & Dagger" ...
You're likely thinking of Khala -- under the "Raw Recruits" section:- The Demonlands: Khala of Peltarch (LN tiefling female F8/M7; alu-fiend).

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Kuje
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

I thought that there was a tiefling member of the Moonstars - as showcased in "Cloak & Dagger" ...
You're likely thinking of Khala -- under the "Raw Recruits" section:- The Demonlands: Khala of Peltarch (LN tiefling female F8/M7; alu-fiend).




Ah, see alu-fiends arn't tieflings, to me. They are half-fiends.

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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

I thought that there was a tiefling member of the Moonstars - as showcased in "Cloak & Dagger" ...
You're likely thinking of Khala -- under the "Raw Recruits" section:- The Demonlands: Khala of Peltarch (LN tiefling female F8/M7; alu-fiend).




Ah, see alu-fiends arn't tieflings, to me. They are half-fiends.



Have to agree, calling an Alu-Fiend a Tiefling is kinda like calling a Great Wyrm a Whelp... IMO

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The PGtF gives a few other reasonable backgrounds for Tieflings such as near Dragonspear Castle resulting from the DR 1356 gate (hmm... mass teenage Tiefling angst).
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Have to agree, calling an Alu-Fiend a Tiefling is kinda like calling a Great Wyrm a Whelp... IMO



I think what Steven meant by this reference was that her tiefling bloodline came from an alu-fiend, not that she was an alu-fiend.

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